What is god

[Love4All]

I don’t remember where in the Bible this is, but God speaks to Abraham, and gives him God’s Name. the meaning behind this name (or translation) works perfectly to Whom or What God is. in my mind at least.

“I AM”

I think its in Genesis, but i had troubles locating it.

That’s because it isn’t Abraham you’re looking for, it’s Moses, and the Book is Exodus.

You’re welcome.

 

[Love4All]

Our differences in perspective are exemplified in your statement, "*Catholic Doctrine is not a philosophical construct, it is God’s revelation of Himself. It is not liable to error. *. I once believed that, as you do now. My current position is simply stated: Who says so?

Well, to answer your question on the level of the physical plane, is easy: Saint Pius X said so, while he was Pope.

To address what seems to me your presumption that “I once believed that, as you do now,” I would initially point out that it is a presumption on your part. You may legitimately state, “I once believed that.” You may not legitimately add, “as you do now,” as that would appear to imply that you know firsthand, “how” it is that I believe as I believe. You do not. I acknowledge to you that you think that you do. I even acknowledge to you that it strikes you as absurd that I could possibly have certitude that you do not know how it is that I believe what I believe. Am I not, after all, just another human being in the same world you are in? How can I know that our ways of believing, yours in the past and mine in the present, are different? I acknowledge to you that that strikes you as absurd. It is not. It is valid. I can explain it, in a way that you will be able to understand. Possibly. That depends more on you than on me. Do you have an open mind?

You seemed at first to wish to protect me against the ideas you say you have encountered or discovered. You seem still reticent to share your ideas, for fear that you will disturb what must seem to you a delicate faith.

While I am not offended at all by your words — please, believe me! I am not at all offended — nonetheless the proper classification of that kind of behavior is haughty and condescending. You are assuming that your experience is wider than mine, and that everything I now think and believe, you have “been there, done that.” While I’m sure you’re aware that that is impossible in a literal sense, you plainly have the notion that it is so in a relevant sense to our ideas about life in general and about God.

The bottom line is this: if you are avoiding discussing things with me because you are afraid that your own applecart will be upset, then by all means, tuck that tail between your legs and slink away. I would be disappointed, but not crushed. If on the other hand, you only wish to protect me against ideas that might disturb my delicate faith, then I would ask you to get down from your high horse and stop being so condescending.

Catholic Doctrine is what it is. It can be examined in precisely the same way that a hydrogen atom can. It is an entity in the world that we can study. Neither you nor I are going to change it.

For you to avoid a conversation with me because I happen to treat Catholic Doctrine as an entity in the world that I do not have the power to alter, is absurd.

I have to go right now, I’ll get back to this later.

Feel free to not abandon the dialogue in the meantime!

 

[Foofaraw]

Well, to answer your question on the level of the physical plane, is easy: Saint Pius X said so, while he was Pope.

To address what seems to me your presumption that “I once believed that, as you do now,” I would initially point out that it is a presumption on your part. You may legitimately state, “I once believed that.” You may not legitimately add, “as you do now,” as that would appear to imply that you know firsthand, “how” it is that I believe as I believe. You do not. I acknowledge to you that you think that you do. I even acknowledge to you that it strikes you as absurd that I could possibly have certitude that you do not know how it is that I believe what I believe. Am I not, after all, just another human being in the same world you are in? How can I know that our ways of believing, yours in the past and mine in the present, are different? I acknowledge to you that that strikes you as absurd. It is not. It is valid. I can explain it, in a way that you will be able to understand. Possibly. That depends more on you than on me. Do you have an open mind?

You seemed at first to wish to protect me against the ideas you say you have encountered or discovered. You seem still reticent to share your ideas, for fear that you will disturb what must seem to you a delicate faith.

While I am not offended at all by your words — please, believe me! I am not at all offended — nonetheless the proper classification of that kind of behavior is haughty and condescending. You are assuming that your experience is wider than mine, and that everything I now think and believe, you have “been there, done that.” While I’m sure you’re aware that that is impossible in a literal sense, you plainly have the notion that it is so in a relevant sense to our ideas about life in general and about God.

The bottom line is this: if you are avoiding discussing things with me because you are afraid that your own applecart will be upset, then by all means, tuck that tail between your legs and slink away. I would be disappointed, but not crushed. If on the other hand, you only wish to protect me against ideas that might disturb my delicate faith, then I would ask you to get down from your high horse and stop being so condescending.

Catholic Doctrine is what it is. It can be examined in precisely the same way that a hydrogen atom can. It is an entity in the world that we can study. Neither you nor I are going to change it.

For you to avoid a conversation with me because I happen to treat Catholic Doctrine as an entity in the world that I do not have the power to alter, is absurd.

I have to go right now, I’ll get back to this later.

Feel free to not abandon the dialogue in the meantime!

L4,
I didn’t mean to offend you, despite your protestations that I didn’t. I’ve examined a few ideas about God and metaphysics, not exhaustively, but enough to recognize something I’d encountered before, or small variations on other themes, as most “new” ideas turn out to be. The ideas you’ve expressed here and in various other posts are not discernably unique from my perspective, although if you have thought of them independently, of course they are unique to you.

I have no particular interest in discussing your opinions because, as mentioned, I see no point in doing so, inasmuch as I have encountered them elsewhere. Moreover, they appear to be based upon religious beliefs, and I am not interested in discussing beliefs, unless they be verifiable or can be invalidated.

As for your statement, "You seem still reticent to share your ideas, for fear that you will disturb what must seem to you a delicate faith. I’ll freely share my ideas when it seems relevant to do so. Until that happens again, they are readily available in the book where I found them, However, I recommend that you do not read it.

If it appeared to me that your faith was, as you put it, “delicate,” or weakly held, then I would advise all manners of inquiry on your part that might lead to strong beliefs which are relevant to your life. However, that is not the case. Unless I am badly mistaken, your beliefs are deeply and strongly held at the level of certainty. Thus the ideas in that book would not penetrate the wall of certitude already established in your brain. I see no point in encouraging anyone to do something that seems unprofitable for them.

 

[jochoa]

Is god pure intelligence will, mind, feeling or what? Does he have a soul and if so anything like ours? Any philosophers welcome or course from the church would be good but I’m willing to seek all for this answer.

Although there are many gaps to fill, here is who God is:
God is the being who gets everything wanted and needed for the experience of limitless happiness with unbreakable peace. The reason this is God is because this is the greatest being of life.
The only way to be this person as a human is to follow Jesus in embracing the cross: always wanting to be, as well as being, patient and kind, even in the face of unjust cruelty, to the point of death, through the Sacraments of His Church.