What is going on here?

[NickVA]

The Link

youtube.com/watch?v=5zLU-uaebnA&feature=related

I am not trying to stir up controversy by introducing this video, But i just want to know about this group, (the Group in the Video,St. Judes parish in Peoria, IL) and whether or not they have been admonished for there obvious and apparent liturgical abuses.

This group uses multimedia devices during the mass to prevent teenage Catholics from becoming bored during the sacred mysteries of the Mass. Hardly a boring thing

Although this group has shown great disrespect to our lord in the Eucharist, We must pray for them and remind ourself that there is nothing our lord can’t forgive and that he is all-merciful.

What is going on here and how can we help this parish get its act together? This parish is actually driving teens away from the faith by saying the mass must provide temporal and worldly enjoyment, when it is just the opposite in reality.

 

[Myqyl]

I guess I don’t see an issue with the media portion. The only problem I saw is that the priest omitted the “Let us proclaim the mystery of Faith”. That seemed like a problem.

That the priest uses technology to help his congregation to better understand that Christ initiated this portion of the Mass at the last Supper doesn’t bother me. Almost every Mass I’ve ever attended has used electric lights and sound systems (except those I’ve been to in developing nations). If we really want the Mass to stay in the good old days (1400’s) we need to lose a lot of technology that most folks today consider common place. Are we saying that a stationary statue is ok, but a more interactive image is heresy?

Yes, the lightning was a tad cheesy… but shouldn’t we be helping the priest get a better image there? I think a Bell tolling would be nice. That’s what happens at most every Mass I go to.

I don’t see any disrespect for the Eucharist. I just see something new and that always scares certain people. I’m still worried about the lack of “Let us proclaim the mystery of Faith”. I’d be interested in seeing the rest of this Mass.

Change is not inherently a good idea… But neither is it inherently a bad idea either. I would suggest we don’t try to judge a change by a clip on youtube.

Just my 2 cents

God bless.

 

[PiousTemplar]

If teenagers get that bored during the sacred Mass that they need electronical devices to keep them interested, they don’t have the right to call themselves a Catholic.

 

[Sum_Fidelis]

Dear friend. I am a bit old-fashion,and I can’t accept that we bring technology everywhere,to a point we must,but to keep teen-agers focused attending mass is,in my humble opinion,just about to much. But the priest is doing his best,and I give him a point or two for that. However,it is first of all the parents responsibility to bring up the kids to [good(?)] Catholics. But if this really bother You,talk with priest. Somehow I think it’s wrong,and somehow I don’t know how to react if I would see it happen at mass. But You should talk to the priest. God bless.

 

[Like]

IMO, this was not the Mass, but a poor attempt of acting and a very poor excuse of entertainment.

 

[Iron_Donkey]

That the priest uses technology to help his congregation to better understand that Christ initiated this portion of the Mass at the last Supper doesn’t bother me. Almost every Mass I’ve ever attended has used electric lights and sound systems (except those I’ve been to in developing nations).

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Change is not inherently a good idea… But neither is it inherently a bad idea either. I would suggest we don’t try to judge a change by a clip on youtube.

I don’t have a problem with the fact that technology is being used. As an undergrad, the university parish had a projector that would put the words to the songs or the creed or the like on the wall (we had no song books.) When it was not doing that, it displayed a cross.

But this bothers me on a whole different level. The priest is consecrating the bread and wine. They are in the real presence of Christ in the Eucharist. During this time, we should not be watching a video, whatever the goal of that video is. We should be focusing on Christ.

I am remembering that when Pope Benedict said that large outdoor mass during his UK trip, shortly after the consecration he moved out of view so as not be a distraction from the Blessed Sacrament. I thought that was pretty cool. But this presentation is purposefully drawing attention away from it.

Granted, we have no reason to believe the intentions were anything but good, and it may have even have been effective. But even so, it does not seem appropriate. It is a good goal to teach the faithful. But not in that way at that time. That time is a time for quiet reverence and focus.

– As for the whole change thing, yes it is a change, and yes it bothers many of us, but I’m fairly certain the two are unrelated. For instance, I am still bothered by the “shake your booty music,” as my mom calls it, that they play at my home parish even though it’s been that way since I was born (not a change, at least for me), and I am very much looking forward to the new translation of the missal (probably a fairly major change).

 

[Gelnhausen]

The Link

youtube.com/watch?v=5zLU-uaebnA&feature=related

I am not trying to stir up controversy by introducing this video, But i just want to know about this group, (the Group in the Video,St. Judes parish in Peoria, IL) and whether or not they have been admonished for there obvious and apparent liturgical abuses.

This group uses multimedia devices during the mass to prevent teenage Catholics from becoming bored during the sacred mysteries of the Mass. Hardly a boring thing

Although this group has shown great disrespect to our lord in the Eucharist, We must pray for them and remind ourself that there is nothing our lord can’t forgive and that he is all-merciful.

What is going on here and how can we help this parish get its act together? This parish is actually driving teens away from the faith by saying the mass must provide temporal and worldly enjoyment, when it is just the opposite in reality.

I know that it is not permissible to use recorded music in the liturgy of the mass. Therefore, I will suggest that it is certainly not permissible to use what appears on the video.

 

[The_Old_Medic]

Once again, let those of us without sin, cast the first stone.

It is so easy to cast aspersions, to cite what we believe are liturgical abuses, and in general “raise hell”.

But, what harm has been done here? The ratio of teens leaving our church is high, and frankly I am in favor of anything that spreads the doctrine of the church in a manner that will attract them to our churches.

It is lovely to believe that we must always stick to the “tried & true”, but in reality, that is not working in all too many cases. We have far too many parishes where there is absolutely nothing to attract, or to keep, teens active in our church. We have too many Priests that do nothing for the teens in their parishes… We have far too many music ministries that have music that turns off teens.

Instead of screaming about “Orthodoxy”, how about asking “Why are so many teens and young adults leaving the Catholic Church?” And then, ask yourself, “What am I doing to helpl stop this from happening?”

And then, instead of attacking those that are genuinely trying to help stop this from happening, how about actually doing something?

 

[juno24]

The You Tube clip is over 3 years old. Let’s hope that the Bishop of the Diocese of Peoria has already addressed such abuses.
As for the “need” to jazz up the Mass so that teens “get it” or don’t get bored with it— how utterly insulting to any self-respecting teen. Did this priest actually think that the the teens in his parish are so stupid that they can’t understand the sacrifice of the Mass without visual aids??? If those kids are bored with the sacrifice of the Mass, then perhaps better teaching, both in CCD and at home, is in order rather than dumbing down the re-presentation of the events at Calvary.

 

[laszlo]

Keep in mind that the Anno Domini mass is for teens to help draw them into a deeper understanding of the meaning of the mass. It is not meant to appeal to all nor to be celebrated on a regular basis but possibly a once in a lifetime experience. Keep in mind that what many of the older generation find profoundly enlightening is “boring” to many teens. Hopefully, the Holy Spirit will use the Anno Domini to help some teens better understand the awesome miracle of the Eucharist.

This is the comment of the author. I do not see it worse, that the glass windows made for serving as memorial for the donors. Or the frescoes made explicitly for entertainment. The fact that on that time they were not able to make dynamic entertainment, does not changes anything, it was serving something earthly, human. We are human, and in the Mass we celebrate the bodily presence of our Lord, who dined with sinners, let the prostitute to wash His feet and died on the tree of the shame in very lowly human way.