What is moderate realism?

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I know that it says that one abstracts forms from things and understands the latter thereby. But what does that mean? Does it mean that the mind literally takes the forms out of things and puts them in the mind, does it mean that by some many diverse processes the mind can form a true picture of the things, etc?
 
Nothing physical can exist in your mind, which is of course nonphysical. And while certain changes take place physically in your head, as a result of acquiring knowledge, those physiological changes are not equivalent to the abstracts generated within your mind.

So I’d go with the 2nd description: through mutiple levels of processing, your mind acquires a picture of external being.

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Through our senses we encounter many individual things, gaining an intellectual knowledge of each of them, an idea in our minds which of course is not physical (except inasmuch as our physical brain neurons are involved) but is an idea, a mental conception of something. The way our ideas of objective things correspond to those things as they (if they) exist in the real world is an interesting question, but the problem of universals primarily regards the next level of consideration.

Logically subsequent to our experience and conceptualization of these individual things, we categorize them into different kinds of things and form universal concepts regarding those kinds of things. For example, we encounter some things like these:

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And, from these, eventually develop an idea of “cat.”

Similarly but more profoundly, we may experience many beautiful things in this world, and eventually come to an idea of beauty, or experience many good things, and come to an idea of goodness.

All of these ideas are universal ideas, and the problem of universals asks whether such a thing as “cat” or “beauty” or “goodness” exists in the real world outside our minds.

Nominalists would say no, that “cat” for example is merely a name we apply to many diverse things out of a subjective need to categorize objects in an otherwise bewilderingly complex world. In our minds we may accompany this word with a vague image created from combining remembered images of individual creatures we have come across which we now wish to label as cats, but this vague image doesn’t correspond to anything real; only a remembered image of a real cat you once saw corresponds to something real.

Conceptualists, meanwhile, say more or less that universal ideas do exist, but we cannot know if or how they relate to the world of the senses, that we know them only as ideas we have in our minds and it is in that “ideal” way, that “conceptual” way that they have value.

Realists meanwhile affirm that universal ideas do correspond to something in the objective world outside of our minds (they think universals are “real”), but there are two very different camps concerning this.

Platonic Realism, or Exaggerated Realism as it’s sometimes called, says that there really are universal beings out there, which human reason can gain knowledge of. Generally the idea is that the individual instances of something our senses reveal to us, like this particular cat or that other cat, are somehow less real manifestations of a truly real Universal Cat, from which all individual cats we encounter with our senses are somehow derived.

Moderate Realism says that there is no such Universal Cat floating in some esoteric plain of reality, but that the idea of “Cat” really does apply to something in the real world, namely everything that can accurately be called a cat. Whatever traits are shared by each individual cat which makes them definable as cats, and without which a creature would be something other than a cat, that whatever-it-is defines a sort of feline nature. Our universal idea of “Cat” accurately corresponds to each and every animal with that feline nature, while things that set each cat apart from another are by definition merely “accidental” attributes that do not effect the thing’s feline nature. This position is distinguished from Nominalism in that nominalists deny the very universal idea of “Cat” as anything other than a label to apply to whatever we want to apply it to and a vague image created by mixing memories of different things we wish to apply that label to and corresponding to nothing real, while moderate realists say we really do develop a universal idea of “Cat” and this idea really does accurately describe something in the real world, not a single real Universal Cat but each real individual cat out there.
 
I know that it says that one abstracts forms from things and understands the latter thereby. But what does that mean? Does it mean that the mind literally takes the forms out of things and puts them in the mind, does it mean that by some many diverse processes the mind can form a true picture of the things, etc?
I guess to answer your question more directly, from a moderate realist perspective the mind intellectually abstacts forms from the individual things you encounter through your senses. It doesn’t somehow physically extract them.

You sense something and then learn about it, come to a knowledge about it, from that sensory experience. When it comes to moderate realism you need to keep in mind that, first, we are talking about universal ideas (“forms”), not accidental forms, though both of these in fact can be learned about through the senses plus reason. And second, from a moderate realist perspective these universal forms don’t have objective existence apart from the individual, non-universal things but rather have it in those things so to speak, inasmuch as they truly are described by the universal idea you have gained from examining them.

All this obviously has to do with ordinary things in the physical world; if you want to start considering God and His relation to universals it suddenly gets a lot more difficult.
 
so universals and ideas (sensory or not) are not invisible spiritual objects that ferry information between the objective world and your mind?

Also if that is the case, then in what sense do forms exist and also, aren’t the exemplars of all there is located in God? So if that is true, then in a sense are we reading the mind of God as far as necessary beings are concerned?

Finally, are there universals of universals?
 
so universals and ideas (sensory or not) are not invisible spiritual objects that ferry information between the objective world and your mind?

Also if that is the case, then in what sense do forms exist and also, aren’t the exemplars of all there is located in God? So if that is true, then in a sense are we reading the mind of God as far as necessary beings are concerned?

Finally, are there universals of universals?
I’ve never heard of forms being described as spiritual intermediaries between objects and the mind. The forms in question are forms of objects. We discern forms from our sensory experience of objects and our power of reason.

Speaking from a more or less Aristotelian perspective, a form never exists without matter, nor matter without form. A form by itself is just an idea, an abstract blueprint for something so to speak, while matter ultimately pretty much just means the thing exists. Matter is always in some form or another. If something exists, then the form defines what it is and the matter defines that it is. In God there is no distinction between these, since He is the Necessary Being. In all other things, even angels or human souls apart from their bodies, there must be both form and matter if they exist. In the case of things which exist but are not physical beings, we say they have spiritual matter as opposed to physical matter. Ultimately I think this is just a way of saying they exist in a manner that does not make them empirically detectable, and their actual manner of being is highly mysterious to us humans whose thinking is so linked to our senses in this life.

Anyway, God in His omniscience obviously knows the forms (ideas) of all things that will ever exist or that could logically exist but in fact will not. In the case of something that does not exist, its form is still “in God” in the sense that a dragon is in your mind because you have a mental idea of it, but there is no real dragon with objective existence anywhere.

When we learn we come to gain some small part of the knowledge God has always had. If you want to sort of poetically say learning is reading the mind of God I guess you could, though it’s not an analogy that would recommend itself to me.

Finally, if I understand your last question, yes there are larger generic universals which cover other universal ideas. For example, the universal idea of “animal” covers all cats, as well as many other creatures other than cats. Or indeed, one can have a universal idea of tom-cat, which is covered by “cat” but “cat” also includes creatures that are not tom-cats. Same with tabby-cat, and there it gets even more complicated, since tabby-cat and tom-cat only partially overlap. There are tom tabbies as well as tabbies that are not toms and toms that are not tabbies. Classically universal forms were divided into specific forms and larger, generic forms (“cat” might be called a specific form and “animal” a generic form), but personally it seems to me that this kind of species-genus distinction is relative to what level of consideration you are using as a point of reference.
 
Explain again how forms have to exist in matter if the human form can exist without it?

Also, so the forms are just ideas taken in the common meaning of the word idea?

Finally, I’m guessing that although the Catholic or Thomistic view of forms is different from the platonic, still if that’s true, then why do Thomistic descriptions of forms seem so platonic? For instance forms are called “abstract” God is called “most formal” as well as “most perfect” and forms are themselves called “more perfect” and matter is “for the sake of the form” etc.?
 
Oh and also, I meant to ask is the category “universals” contained in another category that is more universal?
 
Explain again how forms have to exist in matter if the human form can exist without it?

Also, so the forms are just ideas taken in the common meaning of the word idea?

Finally, I’m guessing that although the Catholic or Thomistic view of forms is different from the platonic, still if that’s true, then why do Thomistic descriptions of forms seem so platonic? For instance forms are called “abstract” God is called “most formal” as well as “most perfect” and forms are themselves called “more perfect” and matter is “for the sake of the form” etc.?
According to the definition I’ve been using, the human soul does not exist without matter, but rather it has spiritual matter.

“Matter” in this sense doesn’t mean physical stuff like subatomic particles. Subatomic particles also have form and matter. If it’s detectable to the senses, an existing thing is usually called “physical” and so sub-atomic particles would have physical matter. If it’s not detectable by the senses then it’s not physical matter, but spiritual matter. Obviously this is an entirely different definition of “matter” than that of empirical science, so don’t confuse the two.

My knowledge of the philosophy and the history of philosophy isn’t sufficient to give you an adequate account of the evolution of how scholastic language came into being. It makes sense to speak of matter being for the sake of the form though in that matter gives the form its objective existence (speaking colloquially anyway; that might not be a technically correct way to phrase it). I doubt Plato would have said any such thing, since to him it’s forms that have the highest existence in and of themselves and the world of the senses was more an illusion derived in some way from this higher kind of reality.
 
Oh and also, I meant to ask is the category “universals” contained in another category that is more universal?
Well, if we think of “universals” in terms of universal ideas (ideas which cover many particulars) then I guess “idea” would be a universal catagory covering both universal ideas and the ideas of particular things.
 
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