What is my responsibility as a Catholic?

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My husband and I were cradle Catholics when we wed 8 years ago. Our children have been baptized and are now 7 and 5 years old. My husband began investigating other denominations about 4 years ago. He has since left the church and belongs to a non-denominational church. Although this bothered me at the time, my hands were full with the kids so I did little to discourage him. Also, although Catholic, I did lack quite a bit of knowledge that I have since obtained. We’ve been taking turns with each child taking them to church with us, alternating weeks. My children attend a Catholic school. Now, my dilemma, my children are about to enter into the time when they need to encounter the sacrament of Reconciliation as well as make their First Communion. I believe my husband will allow for this, but as of late, he hasn’t been too keen on the Catholic Faith. My question: If they receive their Sacraments what is my responsibility going forward that they especially receive the Eucharist every week?? Sorry for the long story. Any advice will do.
 
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Anni:
My husband and I were cradle Catholics when we wed 8 years ago. Our children have been baptized and are now 7 and 5 years old. My husband began investigating other denominations about 4 years ago. He has since left the church and belongs to a non-denominational church. Although this bothered me at the time, my hands were full with the kids so I did little to discourage him. Also, although Catholic, I did lack quite a bit of knowledge that I have since obtained. We’ve been taking turns with each child taking them to church with us, alternating weeks. My children attend a Catholic school. Now, my dilemma, my children are about to enter into the time when they need to encounter the sacrament of Reconciliation as well as make their First Communion. I believe my husband will allow for this, but as of late, he hasn’t been too keen on the Catholic Faith. My question: If they receive their Sacraments what is my responsibility going forward that they especially receive the Eucharist every week?? Sorry for the long story. Any advice will do.
I believe that at the wedding and then again when they were baptized you and your husband made a pledge to raise the children Catholic.

When they recieve the sacraments they would be bound, as all Catholics, to adhere to the Day of Obligation, that is be at Mass every Sunday and every Holy Day of Obligation.
 
I would add that since they are children and obviously can’t be held accountable to attend mass on their own, the church will expect you as a parent to get them to mass every week. Otherwise, you would be impeding their right to attend mass.
 
One of the issues I have been dealing with is that my husband is rather negative towards the Catholic teachings. He states that he doesn’t want our children to be taught things that he doesn’t believe in i.e., Mary, the Saints, confession, etc. I have brought up, politely, the fact that we agreed to raise our children up in the Catholic Faith before we wed. He hasn’t been to keen on that one. I have been advised to focus on keeping him happy and let the Holy Spirit handle this.
 
Please pardon the seeming arrogance, but in discussing this subject with your husband, you might remind him that the Catholic Church is not “another denomination.” It is not a denomination at all. It is THE Church. Sorry. But that’s the truth. My heart is with you. I can’t imagine having to cope with such a situation. The previous responses are 100% correct – and you know it.
 
Easier said than done. I’ll need to rely on prayer and the Holy Spirit to assist me with this one.
 
Hi, Anni.

First, I would advise against the “alternate weeks”. Seriously. Catholics must attend MASS, not a Protestant service. Especially now that your children are approaching the time for First Communion–how can you explain to them that they can receive in YOUR church but not your husband’s church? (Because, quite frankly, a Catholic CANNOT receive communion in a Protestant church and a Protestant CANNOT receive communion in a Catholic church). Can you imagine how the child will feel? Since most Protestant churches equate “communion” with “meal and fellowship”, THEY will be hurt when your child refuses, and your CHILD will be hurt.

Since you were both Catholic when you wed, your husband KNOWS the requirements for your children’s catechesis. He “can’t change horses in the middle of the stream”.

Your faith isn’t something for the children to “explore on their own and choose–or NOT choose–later.”

I know it’s hard–my ex-husband was Protestant and while he didn’t go to church himself he made it really hard for me and the children to go, and was very hurtful in his words and deeds. The repercussions were that my children (now ages 22, 21 and 19) have attended NO church since early high school and seriously question their religious faith. This is something I struggle with daily and pray for continuously. In my case, we “stayed together” until the divorce 3 years ago, but that did NOT help the church/ faith situation–in fact, the constant verbal and emotional battles and stresses may have made it worse.

You have a difficult position, as you want to model Catholic wifely love and marriage issues to a spouse who is not only no longer actively Catholic, but now actively Protestant. From his perspective, he has everything to gain and nothing to lose. If you do nothing, he will continue with the “alternate” and your children will be placed in a position where they think they can “pick and choose” faith–and will very likely choose not to have faith at all, or have at least what your husband would consider a “50/50” chance of picking HIS church.

If you attempt to change anything, he can put himself into the position of either the gracious “enabler”–making YOU look rigid and dogmatical, if not downright intolerant!–or he can come right back and start a real religious WAR, depending on how HE perceives your “rebellion”. NOBODY wins in that scenario.

Probably the best bet would be to get yourself a trusted spiritual adviser (talk to your priest and if necessary the head of the diocese itself). Be non confrontational and not aggressive but assertive. Talk over strategy with your adviser (and pray like blazes!), bring out as many points of agreement as you can, be respectful without being so tolerant that you encourage relativism or indifferentism, and above all, see if you can spark his CATHOLIC faith. A lot of times, fallen-away Catholics don’t fall away because they wake up one morning and say, “to hades with papal infallibility”, or “what I am doing in this church, suddenly I understand it’s the whore of babylon”. No, they “miss” something and they think “the catholic church” doesn’t OFFER that something but some OTHER church DOES. It’s not their real faith so much that they fall from–they are looking for “fellowship”, “support”, “answers”. Check out what his denomination believes, talk casually about whether HE believes in some of those things and why, and point out where what he THINKS the Catholic church says or does “wrong” might not actually be wrong at all.

I will pray for you.
 
One of the things you could try doing is start addressing some of the issues he has with the church. Most of the time when people have issues about Catholic doctrine/dogma/tradition, etc. it is usually a misunderstanding of it. Research the topics that he has problems with and let him know why he may be wrong about it. Pick one issue at a time, get support to back yourself up, and take it on. Maybe start with things like, that Catholics don’t worship Mary, they honor her.

This is a great site to get information on that type of stuff. There are lots of resources here and if he asks something that you don’t know, just tell him you will get back to him on that one. Ask the specific question on here and respond to him. Make sure you know the facts because it is better to tell someone that you will get back to them, then tell them a falsehood.

Good luck
 
Good advice, but did you see that her husband WAS a “cradle Catholic”?

I’m not sure what kind of Catholic education he may have had–or how old he is. From what I’ve heard, there are plenty of people, of all ages, from every diocese in the U.S., and a tremendous number of them never seem to have absorbed ANY authentic Catholic teaching!!

They somehow think that they were taught to “worship Mary”, were never encouraged to read their Bible, that they were duped about “real Christianity”, that priests used to ask for money for confessions, etc. They somehow never learned in their first Eucharist that they were receiving the actual BODY AND BLOOD of Jesus, but somehow think it’s “only bread”, and get indignant over news reports about “gluten allergies.”

They somehow equate “Catholicism” not with God, not with His word, but with FALLIBLE HUMANS at a PARTICULAR TIME. Ergo, they somehow think “Catholicism is wrong” BECAUSE:
The Inquisition burned believers.
The church tortured Gallileo because he was right.
The church is rich in goods and won’t “share” with the poor.
Pope Pius caused the Holocaust and worked hand in glove with the Nazis.
Pedophile priests mean that Catholicism is evil and every Catholic is going to hell.
Any given individual who identifies himself as “Catholic” and does something wrong indicts “Catholicism.” Any given individual who identifies himself as “Protestant” and does something wrong only indicts HIMSELF, not “Protestantism”.

Sigh.
 
I know I have an obligation to take my children to mass. My husband (head of household), if not on the same level as I am, might not agree with me. I’ve thought of taking both kids to an early mass and then attend his church as a family. Will this cause confusion?? I don’t know. I do know that they would be receiving the Eucharist every week. Thoughts??
 
Tantum ergo:
Good advice, but did you see that her husband WAS a “cradle Catholic”?
Yeah, I saw that and as a revert that was a cradle Catholic myself I know how bad Catholic teaching in things like CCD and other things can be.

I have found in my dealings with former Catholics, the toughest thing to overcome is what they THINK the church is and what they THINK the church believes based on what Nun so and so taught them or what Father so and so taught them.

In dealing with potential fall away Catholics a piece of advice I usually give is to make sure you know what the church really believes about something before you start doubting/complaining about it. I use as a typical question. “Does the Catholic Church allow the death penalty?” 9 times out of 10 they will say No. Then I explain the actual teaching of the church and they discover they might not know as much about the church as they thought.
 
Anni,

My husband is a cradle catholic too. He still “practices” his faith. But only those parts he wants to.

I had a conversion experience over 10 years ago and at the time it drove a wedge in my marriage. He was jealous of my love of the Lord. And it made him more antagonistic towards the church.

But I learned that I had to lay low and not throw my faith in his faith. Even though some posters here tell you to confront him, I would advice that you do not.

Since he has consented to have them go to catholic school, continue to send them. When they receive the sacraments in school make sure your children do too. But don’t make it a point of antagonism in your marriage.

If he wants to have them go to his services, let them go. If you don’t, then why should your husband let you teach them what you want them to learn about your faith? If he objects to Mary or whatever, tell him that you allow him to teach his views, so he should let you teach yours. The point is to treat his views with respect and ask for the same from him.

But quietly and gently explain to your children that Daddy has not been blessed with the grace to see the truth. Have the kids pray with you for Daddy. We do an “Our Father” for my husband at bedtime.
If you can keep him from putting his wall up, it’s easier for the truth to get through to him.
 
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Anni:
One of the issues I have been dealing with is that my husband is rather negative towards the Catholic teachings. He states that he doesn’t want our children to be taught things that he doesn’t believe in i.e., Mary, the Saints, confession, etc. I have brought up, politely, the fact that we agreed to raise our children up in the Catholic Faith before we wed. He hasn’t been to keen on that one. I have been advised to focus on keeping him happy and let the Holy Spirit handle this.
Dear Anni,

Other posters have offered some very good advice.

One red flag I see here is “he hasn’t been too keen on that one.” That does not speak well for his new religion; either he isn’t following the new one very well either or it teaches that it’s OK to make promises and not keep them. If his promise on how to raise the children is no good, then how does one know his promise to stay committed to YOU is good? That may sound like a bit of a stretch, but what’s the difference? Does he keep promises or do his promises depend on whether the winds change direction? Am I being harsh? Perhaps.

Whether it is harmful for the children to “visit” other churches is up to you. Alternating, though, is a formula for trouble. That’s OK in many non-Catholic and especially non-denominational churches, but not in the Catholic Church. As you said, if they are coming up on first Communion, then if they miss Mass every other week you will be causing them to commit a mortal sin and constantly be outside a state of grace. They will either have to go to confession every other week, abstain from Communion, or … well, it’s just bad. Going to Mass every other week just won’t cut it.

I share his concern that I have a hard time with some of the Church teachings, and I’m still not done working them out. As other posters can verify, I have been rather vocal about some of them. I, for one, would like to go one-on-one with him to find out whether I can help him see what I’ve seen given the same concerns, or at least commiserate. I’ve visited other churches recently and even found a non-denominational church I like very much. There’s no way I’m going to quit taking my children to Mass, though, or going myself. I’ve only been there twice, and the last time was a few months ago. I can probably empathize with him.

Alan
 
Tantum ergo:
Hi, Anni.

First, I would advise against the “alternate weeks”. Seriously. Catholics must attend MASS, not a Protestant service. Especially now that your children are approaching the time for First Communion–how can you explain to them that they can receive in YOUR church but not your husband’s church? (Because, quite frankly, a Catholic CANNOT receive communion in a Protestant church and a Protestant CANNOT receive communion in a Catholic church). Can you imagine how the child will feel? Since most Protestant churches equate “communion” with “meal and fellowship”, THEY will be hurt when your child refuses, and your CHILD will be hurt.

Since you were both Catholic when you wed, your husband KNOWS the requirements for your children’s catechesis. He “can’t change horses in the middle of the stream”.

Your faith isn’t something for the children to “explore on their own and choose–or NOT choose–later.”
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Key here is the fact he did make that agreement.
If you are going to just sit and wait and pray to the Holy Spirit, as your children become confused by the faith that they are receiving and have to much hodge podge in their lives, I hope that you pray constantly and listen closely to the guidance of the Holy Spirit.
There are some things in life that we must stand firm on and put our foot down and pray for your husband to accept it.
I feel for you because I am sure you must feel pretty torn.
Is there a way to get to the bottom of the things he choses to attack about the Catholic Church. If you could do that and go to a priest with the problem maybe it might help.
I will add you to my Mass intentions. Hope all goes well, but please do not allow your children to become anymore confused. Teach them the truth, and teach them the love of Christ.
Work like everything depended on you and pray like everything depended on God.
 
There is a Vatican approved Catholic based Family Ministry called Couples for Christ (CFC). This is a community of Spiritually strong Catholic men and women who help strengthen and support each other.

Couples for Christ (CFC) is a ministry intended for the renewal and strengthening of Christian family life. It is an association of Christian couples who have committed themselves to the Lord and to one another, so that they may grow into maturity as men and women of God and fulfill their primary vocation of raising up their families under the lordship of Jesus Christ and for the service of the Kingdom of God. Couples for Christ is a work of Christ which raises up Christian couples and establishes Christian families committed to the work of evangelization and winning the world for Christ through the power of the Holy Spirit. It grows mainly through the establishment of localized units in different parishes.

The CFC has branches which reaches all aspects of the Catholic-Christian family.
**CFC-Kids For Christ **(KFC) 4-12 years old
CFC-Youth For Christ (YFC) 13 - 21 years old (now in all 50 states)
CFC-Singles for Christ (SFC) 22 - 40ish for single professionals (and amateurs)
Couples for Christ (CFC) Valid married couples growing in the faith.
CFC-Handmaids of the Lord (HOLD) Mature single women, divorced or widowed or separated or whose spouse is unable to attend.
CFC-Servants of the Lord (SOLD) Mature single men, divorced or separated or widowed or whose spouse is unable to attend.

Your husband will like the Christ centered teachings and you will like the Catholic flavor of the group. We will not convert or re-convert your husband, that’s God job. We will teach him how to be a true “Man of God”. And if that brings him back to the Church, most times it does, so be it and God be praised.

If he is not interested in the CFC, I would recommend you contact the **HOLD **and continue your own spiritual journey.

If you would like to know more or find a CFC group in your area, please contact me.

God Bless You,
Davis
 
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