What is next?

[George14]

1. Because it is an illicit accretion to the mass
2. because you will receive a blessing at the same time as everyone else, when the priest gives it to all (“Bow your heads and pray for God’s blessing…”)
3. Because it slows down the reception, leading people to feel a need for more ministers of holy communion.
4. Because it rejects the purpose of communion: the visible sign of union to the church by reception.*

• the only exception really is when one goes forward to have their pyx filled for valid and licit purpose, either for approved religious community adoration, for taking to the sick or shut in, or for taking to remote communion services. In these cases, the priest should already be aware, and also the bishop in the case of the religious or the remote communion service. Also, usually, these individuals have already received when they approach again to fill their pyx, or are communed immediately prior to their pyx being filled.

This is very detailed. Is there a rubric or norm at the source of this, or is it a personal interpretation and opinion? If a rubric, could you cite the source?

Tx

 

[FrDavid96]

This is very detailed. Is there a rubric or norm at the source of this, or is it a personal interpretation and opinion? If a rubric, could you cite the source?

Tx

It’s not up to Aramis to site the source that it is forbidden. The burden of proof is upon you to cite the source that it is part of the Mass. Where is it in the Sacramentary? Where is it in the GIRM?

On another note: no one may walk away from receiveing Communion carrying the Eucharist. There is no exception permitting Extraordinary Ministers of Holy Communion to do so.
RS #92 “However, special care should be taken to ensure that the host is consumed by the communicant in the presence of the minister, so that no one goes away carrying the Eucharistic species in his hand” (no, “in a pyx” would not exempt one from that)

 

[Judie]

I am afraid it seems we have all gotten off track somewhat. The question was answered two different ways (as most questions are). I thank you all for your responses. I know that some questions will be answered differently. I can see both sides here. On one hand, you have a willing participant wanting to receive a blessing who is very new, and on the other hand you have long standing traditions and Law. Like I said earlier in a post (in a way), I know I will make mistakes. I pray that during the mistakes I make I will be gently guided to the right path. I don’t want anyone to feel they need to walk on eggshells with me, but I do ask that you all stick with me.
God Bless
Judie

 

[George14]

I am not a trained cleric: what I posted is because I have observed that it is done now in my present parish where in the parish school the custom is taught, and has been done in other parishes, over many years,

“It is not his duty to cite the source” is not in the spirit of the question: I was genuinely interested in seeing all that is said about it – and whether it is an opinion of one catholic or something set out by church rules makes a difference in what I would do.

Thank you.

 

[FrDavid96]

I am afraid it seems we have all gotten off track somewhat. The question was answered two different ways (as most questions are). I thank you all for your responses. I know that some questions will be answered differently. I can see both sides here. On one hand, you have a willing participant wanting to receive a blessing who is very new, and on the other hand you have long standing traditions and Law. Like I said earlier in a post (in a way), I know I will make mistakes. I pray that during the mistakes I make I will be gently guided to the right path. I don’t want anyone to feel they need to walk on eggshells with me, but I do ask that you all stick with me.
God Bless
Judie

Judie,

All of us here are glad to hear that you’re on the right track. That’s what counts. It’s not an easy journey for you, but it is the right one, and it is worthwhile. Hang in there!

I get a little concerned when people who who have been away from the Church, or are coming into It are advised to do things in the Mass that do not enjoy the approval of the Church. People in that situation can often be very impressionable (no offense to you here); and deserve to get the right information.

Welcome home!

 

[Judie]

Father I take no offense what so ever. I DO understand what you speak of. Either way, some one new to anything is going to be impressionable. For right or wrong we can only do the best we can and go from there, hopefully learning from our mistakes, and sharing our experiences of success. I will speak to our priest on Sunday afer Mass at our appointed time and do what he thinks is the right path. I am confident that together, with my husband, we can all come up with a way I will transform into the faithful that God designed me to be.

 

[Aramis]

I am not a trained cleric: what I posted is because I have observed that it is done now in my present parish where in the parish school the custom is taught, and has been done in other parishes, over many years,

“It is not his duty to cite the source” is not in the spirit of the question: I was genuinely interested in seeing all that is said about it – and whether it is an opinion of one catholic or something set out by church rules makes a difference in what I would do.

Thank you.

It is an opinion derived from reading the texts of the GIRM in several different versions, from reading canon law, from hanging out with theologians, and from knowing what the local Roman Archbishop has permitted.

Whether or not it is done in a particular parish is irrellevant. If your bishop has specifically permitted it, it’s on him, and no error locally (tho’ is an error on the part of the bishop).

Further, the sacramentaries I’ve read all specify “Those of the faithful who wish to receive…” in the rubrics for the communion procession.

 

[quiet52]

Judie, I’ve given prayer cards and leaflets with prayers to RCIA candidates, so they can pray and reflect from the pew during Holy Communion. Even when someone cannot receive, they can encounter Jesus more deeply through prayer.

Spiritual Act of Communion:
*My Jesus, I believe that Thou art present in the Blessed Sacrament. I love Thee above all things and I desire Thee in my soul. Since I cannot now receive Thee sacramentally, come at least spiritually into my heart. As though thou wert already there, I embrace Thee and unite myself wholly to Thee; permit not that I should ever be separated from Thee *

 

[FrDavid96]

Judie, I’ve given prayer cards and leaflets with prayers to RCIA candidates, so they can pray and reflect from the pew during Holy Communion. Even when someone cannot receive, they can encounter Jesus more deeply through prayer.

Spiritual Act of Communion:
*My Jesus, I believe that Thou art present in the Blessed Sacrament. I love Thee above all things and I desire Thee in my soul. Since I cannot now receive Thee sacramentally, come at least spiritually into my heart. As though thou wert already there, I embrace Thee and unite myself wholly to Thee; permit not that I should ever be separated from Thee *

Thanks for posting that. Excellent suggestion and it may very help other readers who are in the same position. There are many reasons for not receiving Communion at that particular moment.

 

[IronMike59]

Here’s my story:

Baptized Catholic, 10 years of Catholic schooling, vacated the Faith somewhere around the age of 17. I had what I called “A Usual Relationship With God”. I was always in church when I needed God’s help [far and few between]. I was initially married by a JP then subsequently had our marriage validated in the Church a year later. Between the ages of 38 and 50, I lost my father, divorced w/ 6 children [marriage was annulled], oldest child had to have liver transplant, lost a 20 year job, lost my mother, was unemployed for 20 months, was in and out of court fo Child Support which is now paid in full, remarried in the Church but remained inactive, lost the oldest child, took 10 years to recoop earnings ratio of previous job, and fought with my dead mother for 15 years [actually God]. I finally quit being angry with God and when back to Church. I cried for 3 straight Sundays. I missed it. I’m so happy I’m back.

Suggestion - Go to confession often, Go to Mass a receive the Body and Blood of Christ often, Pray often. You will find strength. As the priest for books of inspiration and learn about your faith. Learn the Rosary.

 

[Judie]

Thank You Mike.

An update, if I may? Met with father this week. a wonderful, but very strict man. There is some confusion as to the next few steps (because this is an entire family.) He is looking into it in regards to what our Diocese desires. We will have to do a weekend class for our Marriage, and a Baptism class for the two youngest. My son and I will attended the RCIA classes, with possibly my oldest daughter (there are a few her age that may mean a special class for them.)