What is Our Lady of Sorrows and Is this a seperate prayer from the Holy Rosary?

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What is the meaning of Our lady of Sorrows, and is there a separate prayer to say that is distinct from the Holy Rosary, and how would one pray it?

Are there good reasons to validly pray to Our Lady of Sorrows that is different than the Rosay?

What is the difference?

Any good and easy ways to learn how to pray to Our Lady of Sorrows?

Do I use the Holy Rosay beads to do any of this prayer?
 
Those are approved apparation by Church of Our Lady of Sorrow in Kibeho (And only approved from Africa), actually Rosary of 7 sorrows has it’s roots in Order of Servites who first started devotion to Our Lady of Sorrow. Our Lady of Sorrow in Kibeho:


Yes you can use your usual Rosary beads to pray it if you don’t have that specific rosary with 7 beads x7, I pray it on usual.
Here is how to pray, easy and well explained:


It is not hard!
There are valid reasons to pray it; it is conversion of heart, sorrow for sinns and strenght to return to God and strenght to be delivered from slavery (Our Lady said that in apparations refering to my book). I don’t pray it too often but when I do it is very different for me than “usual Rosary” and I always cry.
I strongly recommend and find it very needed in our time! We venerate Our Lady’s pain in her life (7 events of her life) but is not replacement for ordinary Rosary as if we would replace Jesus’s pains with Mary’s, it is more in way complementing of them.
 
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CathF covered it well.
It is just a different devotional chaplet. It is not meant to “replace” the Rosary.
Some people are drawn to different chaplet devotions, such as Seven Sorrows of Mary, Holy Face Chaplet, Divine Mercy Chaplet, Precious Blood Chaplet, Chaplet of St. Michael the Archangel, etc.

The different religious orders often have different focuses and different chaplets. For example, the Franciscans have a Franciscan Crown Rosary, the Brigittines have a 6 decade Rosary, the Servites have the 7 Sorrows Chaplet, the Dominicans of course have the Dominican Rosary which is the one the Church generally references as being “the Rosary”.
 
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@Tis_Bearself @Inbonum thank you for your help on this matter. You are very kind.

Does anyone have a 7 bead rosary and do you think it is worth having a separate one from the Holy Rosary?

Has anyone found that praying the 7 sorrows helped them in a life and death struggle to live?

Do you think that Mother Mary listens more and will intercede more when praying the 7 sorrows?
 
@mary15 I don’t have one and when I pray it I use usual rosary 5x10 beads. It doesn’t matter if you pray it on beads or use your fingers to count Hail Mary’s in the end if you don’t have that 7rosary.
Mary ALWAYS hears our prayers in any form and always pray for us when we ask her to do it. It is more important quality of prayer not quantity. Ask God for His will and your prayers will always be successful.
Sometimes we don’t get what we want because we ask things opposite of what God wants for us and in that case there is no prayer that will make God to change His mind, He cannot be manipulated.
 
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I do have a 7 Sorrows chaplet because I would like to start praying it and I saw a vintage one that I liked (and probably overpaid for, but I liked it). However, because I have a number of devotions on my “would like to start praying it” list, I have not yet been able to start this particular devotion yet. I hope to do that in the future. Often I will add a particular devotion for a certain month or for Lent and then at the end of a period of time, change my prayer plan and add a different devotion.

If you would like to try the devotion, there’s nothing wrong with just saying it on your regular rosary. I have chaplets for both the St. Michael Archangel Chaplet and the Holy Face of Jesus devotion, but I usually end up just using my regular rosary as it’s always handy and I would have to go up and look through my drawer to find the other two chaplets. I just skip the beads I don’t need. Holy Face of Jesus requires one to look at Jesus’ Face at the end, and has a medal on it for that purpose, but it’s easy enough to Google a picture of the Shroud of Turin for that.

As for Mother Mary listening more or interceding more, I think she will do that if you are trying to get closer to her, regardless of the prayer that you pray. The 7 Sorrows is specifically for focusing on Mary’s Sorrows. It might be most useful for people struggling with grief or loss in their life or who feel drawn to the sorrows of Mary for some reason. Someone else might not find it fruitful. They can say another prayer with the idea of drawing closer to Mary, let’s say they just say the Litany of Loreto every day instead, and that will work just as well.
 
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@Tis_Bearself @Inbonum thank you, very good information here.

Maybe I should look online to find the Litany of Loreto and see what that is all about.

I am dealing with grief, yes, but don’t want to focus maybe too much on only sorrow.

All these new words, like “chaplet” and “litany” and so many others, often in Latin, yikes, it has been a real struggle for me to try and grasp at where to begin in my quest to get help and relief from our Lord or from Mother Mary.

It’s so very overwhelming for me that at times, its actually best for me to just focus on one word, such as “God” or “Love” and then just remain there in a contemplative state and nothing more.

Its simply too much to try and read all of the books and bible chapters, memorize prayers, and so on. It’s just too much for me right now.

However, I am indeed searching for information and so will keep a good record of all of this helpful and generous help, and refer back to it when I can.

I can’t force my spiritual growth nor run headlong into without burning right out or running straight into resistance and oppression.

It’s slow and gradual but steady growth that is going to have to be what I place my faith in, and mainly on the cross of Christ.

Slowly but steadily…

Thank you, dear sisters, in Christ 🌹 🌹
 
@mary15 Don’t worry and don’t be hard on yourself. God knows you best and your struggles. You can also ask Mary to teach you how to pray.
Once I heard “We learn how to pray by praying” and I find it true. It takes time.

You are in my prayers!
 
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mary, don’t try to take on too much. I’ve been through a lot of grief and loss in the last few years too. The only reason I am able to do devotions through it is that I was taught to do devotions when I was really little, like 6 years old, and did them all through my teens. If they were all new to me it would be much harder for me to wrap my mind around now. As it is, devotions remind me often of being a young girl doing them with my mother, so they are comforting in that way.

I would strongly recommend, if possible, that you find a prayer group that works for you, either online (it can be a streaming group on Zoom or FacebooK Live, or just one that posts the daily prayers on a blog or on Facebook or e-mails them to you) or in person when the churches open (there are groups that meet daily, or once a week, at most parishes). I got back into prayer through praying with such groups, when I really hadn’t regularly prayed so much as a rosary for many years of being away from the Church.

I’m sure Mary will be very happy with even small efforts, so don’t wear yourself out. I will pray for you too.
 
I have several chaplets of the seven sorrows and I try to pray them every Friday.
 
@Inbonum Oh my, I just found the Litany of Loreto in an old prayer booklet that someone recently passed on to me!

It looks very simple and lovely to pray.

@Inbonum How would Mary teach me how to pray? through her intercessional prayers to the Holy Spirit to guide me and teach me?

@Inbonum @Tis_Bearself @poche

Mary always hears our prayers and intercedes for us?

I need to beg her son to heal me, but its His will to be done, and not mine.

But Mary, queen of heaven can speak to Him on my behalf?
 
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She would teach you in spiritual way, not some physical way. Through Holy Spirit and with Him. Holy Spirit is teacher of spiritual life!

St. Louis de Montfort in True Devotion to Blessed Virgin Mary says that Mary hears all our prayers through God, God gives Mary all prayers which are pointed to her.
Here is full book online and you can read about it
https://www.ecatholic2000.com/montfort/true/devotion.shtml
Of course she can! She is at Jesus’s right and asks him for all our intentions if they are in accordance with his will. She is our eternal advocate (and for sure better than all best lawyers on Earth).
Try to be very simple in prayer to her. She always hear you! Don’t be upset if there is no immediate result, ask for God’s will.
 
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Mary always hears you and always takes your prayers to God.

Mary also always does God’s will, so if somehow God’s will is different from whatever we pray, then Mary will try to help us understand.
 
@Tis_Bearself @CathF thank you for your help on this matter. You are very kind.

Does anyone have a 7 bead rosary and do you think it is worth having a separate one from the Holy Rosary?

Has anyone found that praying the 7 sorrows helped them in a life and death struggle to live?

Do you think that Mother Mary listens more and will intercede more when praying the 7 sorrows?
I have one, but do not use it, counting on my fingers instead. This is a daily devotion for me since I am in the Servite Confraternity. The meditations are helpful.
 
Some one else told me the same thing, a lay person. They said it doesn’t count unless you do the regular one first then Our Lady of Sorrows! I did Our Lady of Sorrows everyday for seven years, but sadly had to stop because It doesn’t count. I sadly stopped the regular one because of time. Better to say no prayers I suppose. Doesn’t seem right somehow!
 
I have no idea what you mean by “it doesn’t count”. Prayers always “count” with God. The Rosary and the chaplet of Our Lady of Sorrows are private devotions and can be done in any reverent, respectful way one wishes.

The only time you have to worry about following rules for a private devotion are when you’re trying to get an indulgence. I am not aware of any indulgence currently for the 7 Sorrows chaplet (other than the general ones for prayer, praying with sacramentals etc) and I am also not aware of any requirement for an indulgence that you have to do a “regular one” (I presume you mean a regular rosary) first before you do an Our Lady of Sorrows chaplet. In any event, indulgences are not the main reason why we pray, and many if not most people believe that prayer in and of itself is the most important thing.

I would suggest that you resume praying to the extent that you have time, even a little time per day, even one decade. And don’t listen to lay people who tell you that prayers don’t “count”. That’s just the Devil trying to get you to stop praying.
 
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Doesn’t count meaning it was replacing the rosary and it is not meant to replace the rosary!
 
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