What is the appeal of Islam?

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Are all Muslims literate in Arabic?
No, nor are all Muslims Arabs. In fact Arabs are only a small percent (about 15%) of the word’s Muslims. Muslims speak and read Turkish, Persian, Malay, and many other languages. Many Muslims cannot read the Qur’an in Arabic.
 
One appealing feature of Islam is that it bans alcohol.
But that has nothing much to do with Islam it could easily address Puritanism, or state controlled prohibition. You have a bone with society not an appeal to Islam.
 
No, nor are all Muslims Arabs. In fact Arabs are only a small percent (about 15%) of the word’s Muslims. Muslims speak and read Turkish, Persian, Malay, and many other languages. Many Muslims cannot read the Qur’an in Arabic.
These illiterate non-Arabs and Arab Muslims- are there examples of them memorizing the Quran and understanding what they have memorized? If so, then Muhammad being unable to read or write isn’t really of much value to the conversation since humans have a rather long oral history of passing on teachings, literature, etc with no need of these being in a written form.
 
But if there is no rejection of Judaism and Christianity, why are they called infidels? Why are they not allowed to practice their religions in Muslim countries?
That “infidels” term was used to mean that: Christians and Jews reject Islam. That “infidels” term do not used to mean that Christians and Jews reject God. The direct contrary Muslims say Christians and Jews denial Muslims.

But unfortunately most of Muslims understand that in a different way and they conjecture that term(infidel) is because of Christians and Jews are infidel of faith. That is a common false which is recognised as a common right. Very unfortunately.

High Islamic scholar say it is not right to use that term for People of Book. Because that term imply a moral aspersion.

There may be devilish and fanatic Muslims in some where but as generally Muslims allow Christians and others to perform religious sacraments. Nobody can say and show contrary except of some dispensations.
 
hasantas - There are a lot more passages in the Qur’an and the many Hadiths that refer to deception as being approved in general practice if it is used for the furtherance of ‘Islam’. The problem is that in studying the history of Islam, even from the time of Muhammad, that this ‘furtherance’ of ‘Islam’ had a very broad and often materialistic brush.

Ishaq:365/Tabari 7:94 “Muhammad bin Maslamah said, ‘O Messenger, we shall have to tell lies.’
‘Say what you like,’ Muhammad replied. ‘You are absolved, free to say whatever you must.’”

Ishaq:383 “One of the young men’s fathers confronted Muhammad and said,
‘You have robbed my son of his life by your deception and brought great sorrow to me.’”

Ishaq:442 “By Muhammad’s order we beguiled them.”

Bukhari: 4.52.220: “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror. The treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand”;

Bukhari: 4.56.795: “I have been given the keys of the treasures of the world by Allah”.

Muhammad gain his earthly riches by war and deception.

Interestingly, when the Devil tempted Jesus with earthly riches, He rejected them and banished the Devil.
 
That is the problem. You claim that the moderate use of alcohol is legitimate. But what is your definition of moderate use? Would it be one glass of vodka, or two, or three or four or what? Some people have a problem knowing what moderate use is. They will claim that they drank moderately, while their wife who has been beaten up, or the child who has been hit by a drunk driver, lying in the hospital with life threatening injuries will say that the driver was not drinking moderately. Moderately is a vague concept which lends itself to being stretched way out of proportion.
Under Islamic law, alcohol is banned, and that solves the problem we are seeing in the west of drunken drivers running over innocent children or of driving over bridges in Chappaquidick with the terrible result of harming innocent people. Families have been destroyed by alcohol.
Terrible crimes have been committed by people under the influence of alcohol.
The appeal of Islam is that it teaches that people should not drink alcohol. Alcohol is banned under sharia law.
Muslims have one of the highest wife beating incidents in the world. I don’t have statistic yet to show for this for this purpose, but wife beating is very common in Muslim families. This is interesting because they do not fare better in this area despite the banning of alcohol.

Agreed that at least they do not have drunken drivers. This is not to say that Muslims do not drink; they do. It is just that it is not allowed by their religion. And because it is prohibited, it makes it difficult for them to drink openly or getting drunk in public.
 
hasantas - There are a lot more passages in the Qur’an and the many Hadiths that refer to deception as being approved in general practice if it is used for the furtherance of ‘Islam’. The problem is that in studying the history of Islam, even from the time of Muhammad, that this ‘furtherance’ of ‘Islam’ had a very broad and often materialistic brush.

Ishaq:365/Tabari 7:94 “Muhammad bin Maslamah said, ‘O Messenger, we shall have to tell lies.’
‘Say what you like,’ Muhammad replied. ‘You are absolved, free to say whatever you must.’”

Ishaq:383 “One of the young men’s fathers confronted Muhammad and said,
‘You have robbed my son of his life by your deception and brought great sorrow to me.’”

Ishaq:442 “By Muhammad’s order we beguiled them.”

Bukhari: 4.52.220: “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror. The treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand”;

Bukhari: 4.56.795: “I have been given the keys of the treasures of the world by Allah”.

Muhammad gain his earthly riches by war and deception.

Interestingly, when the Devil tempted Jesus with earthly riches, He rejected them and banished the Devil.
Prophet Muhammed is known as “Muhammed-al Emin”. Al-Emin mean trustable, never lie or cheat. Even the enemy and opponent of Muhammed trust Him and they know that Muhammed had never lie. If they would find a lie from Him they would refute His prophethood and nobody would believe in Him.

Islam ban and forbid to lie. The lie(Kizb) is the essentials of rejection. The lie is one of the mortal(big) sin. It is very distressing for Islam to be accused with what exactly Islam opposite.

Why do you not give the exact text of Hadiths and so we can interpret. (Ishaq:365/Tabari 7:94 “Muhammad bin Maslamah said, ‘O Messenger, we shall have to tell lies.’
‘Say what you like,’ Muhammad replied. ‘You are absolved, free to say whatever you must.’”) I cannot find the text. The Hadiths issue need specialty and I am not a scholar.

Ishaq:383 “One of the young men’s fathers confronted Muhammad and said,
‘You have robbed my son of his life by your deception and brought great sorrow to me.’” In this there is no any lie but someone think/assume his son is robbed by deception but indeed that son was assured with appeal of truth.

Bukhari: 4.52.220: “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror. The treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand”; I realy wonder the exact text. There are Hadiths about captures of war but there is nothing about terror!

Bukhari: 4.56.795: “I have been given the keys of the treasures of the world by Allah”. So you think these treasures are assets of world? Was Muhammed rich? Did he live in a palace? There were very few estate assets of Muhammed after Him. That treasures are about religion(Islam), facts and Muslims.

You asperse about a prophet. Why do not quote from Qur’an and Haidths about saying true/right? You will have some pages of writting. But you quote from little what you do not understand exactly. That is a deceiver way(You claim something about deception, attention!)

Prophet Muhammed initially captured hearts. If Muhammed would not assure someone then who would struggle for Him? If Muhammed had not got any fact then He would never win adherents. People were not stupid that they could not understand what Muhammed claim. Everyone assessment very carefuly then they accept faith. Otherwise it is not easy to change religion. Arabs were pagan and idols were their gods. So they were very angry about Muhammed because Muhammed reject their gods and brought a new religion. It might got a bit long time for some to understand the fact but nobody accept (as inner) if he/she do not believe indeed. There have been some and they weree called Munafik. Nobody harm Munafik because they said “we are Muslim”.

A liar cannot trick millions for centuries. In that way how you can respect Jesus?
 
Muslims get knowledge from scholars in their native languages. There are many high/intermediate Islamic scholars in everywhere. Muslims profit from them.
Doesn’t that also mean that Muhammad could have received knowledge from others as well? Being able to read and write doesn’t exclude someone from gaining knowledge. Especially in a society which has strong oral traditions.
 
You asperse about a prophet. Why do not quote from Qur’an and Haidths about saying true/right? You will have some pages of writting. But you quote from little what you do not understand exactly. That is a deceiver way(You claim something about deception, attention!)
There is a difference between a person who lies about a subject and a person who incorrectly states something out of ignorance.
 
One thing that attracts people to Islam is that Islam bans alcohol, whereas Catholicism does not. Alcohol has been show to be at the root of many sins and many crimes. Yet, drinking alcoholic beverages is allowed in Christian and many other non-Islamic countries, as Catholicism and most Christian religions do not forbid the drinking of alcohol.
Alcohol would be banned under countries ruled by Islamic or sharia law.
I don’t need to know anything else about Islam - that’s more than enough to keep me away! 😃
 
To me, Islam seems like a very simplistic, easy to follow religion. Simply follow the 5 pillars, say your prayers, and know the Koran. There is no bureaucracy or magisterium, unlike the Catholic Church. I’m pretty sure that there’s no priesthood, either.
This sounds similiar to some peoples’ approach to Christianity (courtesy of Chick Publications)
  1. Realize that everyone has sinned and can not live up to God’s standard of holiness.
  2. Understand that the penalty for our sin is death. …
  3. Accept God’s gift.
  4. Say the sinners prayer.
Congrats. You are now a Christian.

Of course, you should now do the following
  1. Read your bible every day. By the way, this should be the KJV. Don’t what you are supposed to do if you are Spanish or French or …
  2. Talk to God every day
  3. Get baptized, and join a church that uses the bible for authority
  4. Tell others about Jesus.
 
Prophet Muhammed is known as “Muhammed-al Emin”. Al-Emin mean trustable, never lie or cheat. Even the enemy and opponent of Muhammed trust Him and they know that Muhammed had never lie. If they would find a lie from Him they would refute His prophethood and nobody would believe in Him.

Islam ban and forbid to lie. The lie(Kizb) is the essentials of rejection. The lie is one of the mortal(big) sin. It is very distressing for Islam to be accused with what exactly Islam opposite.

Why do you not give the exact text of Hadiths and so we can interpret. (Ishaq:365/Tabari 7:94 “Muhammad bin Maslamah said, ‘O Messenger, we shall have to tell lies.’
‘Say what you like,’ Muhammad replied. ‘You are absolved, free to say whatever you must.’”) I cannot find the text. The Hadiths issue need specialty and I am not a scholar.

Ishaq:383 “One of the young men’s fathers confronted Muhammad and said,
‘You have robbed my son of his life by your deception and brought great sorrow to me.’” In this there is no any lie but someone think/assume his son is robbed by deception but indeed that son was assured with appeal of truth.

Bukhari: 4.52.220: “Allah’s Apostle said, ‘I have been made victorious with terror. The treasures of the world were brought to me and put in my hand”; I realy wonder the exact text. There are Hadiths about captures of war but there is nothing about terror!

Bukhari: 4.56.795: “I have been given the keys of the treasures of the world by Allah”. So you think these treasures are assets of world? Was Muhammed rich? Did he live in a palace? There were very few estate assets of Muhammed after Him. That treasures are about religion(Islam), facts and Muslims.

You asperse about a prophet. Why do not quote from Qur’an and Haidths about saying true/right? You will have some pages of writting. But you quote from little what you do not understand exactly. That is a deceiver way(You claim something about deception, attention!)

Prophet Muhammed initially captured hearts. If Muhammed would not assure someone then who would struggle for Him? If Muhammed had not got any fact then He would never win adherents. People were not stupid that they could not understand what Muhammed claim. Everyone assessment very carefuly then they accept faith. Otherwise it is not easy to change religion. Arabs were pagan and idols were their gods. So they were very angry about Muhammed because Muhammed reject their gods and brought a new religion. It might got a bit long time for some to understand the fact but nobody accept (as inner) if he/she do not believe indeed. There have been some and they weree called Munafik. Nobody harm Munafik because they said “we are Muslim”.

A liar cannot trick millions for centuries. In that way how you can respect Jesus?
Luckily, non of this show Mohammed as the Holy Spirit or the Comforter. 👍

MJ
 
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