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strngrnrth
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It’s cardboard.
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Mijoy2
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Have you tried selling it on Ebay?
Only kidding I know some people take this seriously. I have such a hard time buying into the concept that a childs game (okay maybe an adults with nothing better to do chose to “play” with it too), can be anything but just that…a game.
Having said that I have read the many threads in CAF on this “toy” and there are seeming very intelligent people who claim odd occurances when dabbling with this toy.
I must ask them though, why would the devil be interested in using this game as a means, or a vehicle, to expose himself to our senses? Why not just simply expose himself if he so desired? What makes this a conduit of his exposition? If the answer is “we open the door, he walks in”, then how is this different from somebody simply sitting in a room with eyes closed and attampting to contact a loved one, or to ask for a sign of a future event?
How is this different then playing a little game such as saying to oneself, if the next licence plate I see begins with an odd number, it will rain on Saturday, if even it will be a delightful day? Instead of looking for a “yes” or “no” you look for and odd or even plate number. Am I openeing the door to satan if I play this little foolish game also?
Maybe I am ignorant of the game, but as I recall (I think my sister had one as a child) this is how it was played with.
My questions are genuine, not a mockery of those honestly concerned.
Only kidding I know some people take this seriously. I have such a hard time buying into the concept that a childs game (okay maybe an adults with nothing better to do chose to “play” with it too), can be anything but just that…a game.
Having said that I have read the many threads in CAF on this “toy” and there are seeming very intelligent people who claim odd occurances when dabbling with this toy.
I must ask them though, why would the devil be interested in using this game as a means, or a vehicle, to expose himself to our senses? Why not just simply expose himself if he so desired? What makes this a conduit of his exposition? If the answer is “we open the door, he walks in”, then how is this different from somebody simply sitting in a room with eyes closed and attampting to contact a loved one, or to ask for a sign of a future event?
How is this different then playing a little game such as saying to oneself, if the next licence plate I see begins with an odd number, it will rain on Saturday, if even it will be a delightful day? Instead of looking for a “yes” or “no” you look for and odd or even plate number. Am I openeing the door to satan if I play this little foolish game also?
Maybe I am ignorant of the game, but as I recall (I think my sister had one as a child) this is how it was played with.
My questions are genuine, not a mockery of those honestly concerned.
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Layman
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I am grimly amused when people try to rationalise things like this.
“Why would the Devil bother?”
The better to see you with, my dear, do come closer.
“It’s only a piece of plastic/cardboard”.
And the Communion host is only a piece of bread?
I suppose people who think this way are lucky. They’ve never had the Infernal reach out and touch them.
“Why would the Devil bother?”
The better to see you with, my dear, do come closer.
“It’s only a piece of plastic/cardboard”.
And the Communion host is only a piece of bread?
I suppose people who think this way are lucky. They’ve never had the Infernal reach out and touch them.
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strngrnrth
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The board itself is a tool. People make them out of paperclips and binder clips, paper, alphabets drawn on the floor, and probably dartboards or something like it. The reason it’s dangerous is that it has just that one purpose. You can put the binder clip back in the binder clip holder and tear that page out of the notebook. But what will you do with a piece of cardboard/particle board? You can’t peel off the alphabet side of it. It’s not useful as a teaching alphabet because of the strange font it uses. So you will be tempted to use it as it was designed as long as it’s there. People actually use the fact that they “happen” to have one as an excuse to use it. So if you throw it out and someone is dumpster-diving and finds it, he may decide that’s a sign he should use it.
It may start with a child asking about the weather, but in most cases I know of (not every single one) it eventually, when everyone is vulnerable and off guard, spells out something flattering and begins promising people things like powers and secret knowledge. It reveals things no one touching the pointerr knew or had any reason to suspect (and I know how to tell fortunes, and no, nothing that obvious). It charms by changing its approach to keep the people from getting bored(
) with it. It’s smooth, unlike homemade ones, and the swish swish of the pointer on its little felt feet gets habit-forming to a lot of people, a small reinforcement. Soon it seems reasonable to start the day with a flattering or “encouraging” message from the board. You wake up and flop your hand on the pointer (officially called a Planchette) and say, “Who’s here this morning?” and something spells out. One day the message is not flattering but insulting. Like anyone who has been seasoned while vulnerable, you try to get it to like you again.That’s when you’re hooked.
At first the flying things, pointers sliding to another letter after all hands are off it, predicted things and so forth are just part of what makes it exciting. You feel on the brink of discovering some truth about how things work and what it all means. It bonds you with other experimenters.
Then these are ordinary facts of life and don’t make anyone even look up anymore. You ignore te laws of science and the laws of the land in favor of doing whatever the board tells you to, because it threatens you and others a lot. Most people you know think less of you and don’t trust you, you are considered annoying, but you don’t care anymore. You want to please the entitity you have found through the board, and everyone else seems like a little puny thing that can’t intimidate you. You begin having the odd experiences with no board at all. People who come over to convince you it’s not real see things too. There is no one else there.
The constant fear and confusion begin making you feel you are losing your mind. You try to convince yourself it’s not real. you explain things away one by one. Then something happens just as you were about to get rid of it, that shocks you and convinces you it is real. By then several entities control your life and getting rid of the board doesn’t get rid of them.They will talk to you somehow. The other ways are much more violent so you make a new board and grow to be soothed again by its smooth motion. But you feel sick and worried all the time. You do whatever it says. You can no longer thing straight when you try to think on your own and you are actually happy to let your new masters control your mind and body, for you can’t remember how and the tension and fear in that are more than you ca take. The group has al become the same way. You periodically rvolt and try to banish them all, convinve yourselves it didn’t rally happen and get on with your lives. You get as far as starting to go to sleep feeling safe again when things happen to convince you it did happen and that you will be destroyed for trying to banish them.
Eventually you need help. Getting rid of all communication with **every **deceiving entity snaps your mind right back to its original sanity and you feel better and more in control than ever before. But you have to ask God to do that for you. He will restore your mind, your body and most important your soul. I address this aside to everyone who is still trying to figure out how to get out.
I thank God for delivering me and for all the people He inspired to pray for me duirng my occult period – of which the board was just one part.
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CreatioNova
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Right. So a bunch of young people witnessed and deliberately caused things to fly about in the air, spell out totally unknown staff, and this went on for years, and not one person in the group, or one person invited by the group to witness this stuff, even though this stuff was repeatable, ever recorded or photographed any of it. Bit odd dont you think. I said I wouldnt come back to this thread, and after this post I definately wont, but your posts smack too much of the urban myth. I’m not so sure you’ve even see a board, but just repeating a mish mash of stuff you’ve heard and put together about them.
If your story is genuine I’m please you’re no longer involved with all that stuff and pleased God has delivered you and hopefully your friends.
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AttachedToSix
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My husband had a ouija board that his parents bought years ago - hey it was a Milton Bradley game - right? I know that he had several scary experiences with it as a teenager. I also have a friend who had some very, very scary experiences with one. She told me the only way she could get rid of it (she tried throwing it in the garbage on several occasions and it kept returning on its own) was to burn it. When she burnt it, she swears she saw a demon fly out of it. It petrified her and she became a Christian after that.
Anyway, somehow the one from my husband’s childhood ended up at our house and I found it in storge. I did not want to witness any demon flying out of it like my friend did - her whole story really freaked me out. So, we called our parish priest and he came over and we burned it while he prayed over the whole thing. I can’t remember exactly what prayers he said, this was years ago. I do remember that he took the whole thing very seriously and praise God we are rid of the thing!
I know that he had several scary experiences with it as a teenager. I also have a friend who had some very, very scary experiences with one. She told me the only way she could get rid of it (she tried throwing it in the garbage on several occasions and it kept returning on its own) was to burn it. When she burnt it, she swears she saw a demon fly out of it. It petrified her and she became a Christian after that.Anyway, somehow the one from my husband’s childhood ended up at our house and I found it in storge. I did not want to witness any demon flying out of it like my friend did - her whole story really freaked me out. So, we called our parish priest and he came over and we burned it while he prayed over the whole thing. I can’t remember exactly what prayers he said, this was years ago. I do remember that he took the whole thing very seriously and praise God we are rid of the thing!
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Sir_Knight
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I looked a bit more into this and this is what I found …
- Let us think about this for a minute. This happened in 1884. The devil said he needed 75 to100 years. Well, 75 years from 1884 is 1959. Wow, what a coincidence that it was on January 25, 1959, that John XXIII publicly summoned the Second Vatican Council.*
One of the first changes to come from Vatican II, was the deletion of the Leonine Prayers which included the prayer to St. Michael. These prayers were eliminated in 1964, the 80th year of the devils 75 - 100 years needed to destroy the Catholic Church. It would seem that this would be the time to especially say that prayer, not to delete it.
*The 100th year would be 1984. By 1984 John Paul II had let the devil develope a church that is called Catholic, but is not. This is obvious from his teachings. *
A quick look at some of what JPII taught just from 1978-1984.
… That is rather disturbing for many reasons.
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betra2000
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Just throw it away.
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beckycmarie
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The devil can’t destroy the Catholic Church. He may get some souls, but he will never destroy the whole Church. See Matthew 16:18.
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Sir_Knight
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Did you follow the link that I posted? That was also addressed …
*In 75 - 100 years (1959-1984) did the devil keep his promise and succeed to destroy the Church? Since Christ said that His Church would be with us always, this is impossible.
However the devil has twisted and distorted church teachings so much that there truely is a brand new church, a new order (Novus Ordo) and the true church has been reduced in population to a mere shell of what it once was, but it will survive: “That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.” Matt. 16:18 & 28:20
*… Makes one think. Scripture does say that MANY will be deceived. I’m not saying that what that website it true but it does make one think and I’d be interested in hearing other view points.
*In 75 - 100 years (1959-1984) did the devil keep his promise and succeed to destroy the Church? Since Christ said that His Church would be with us always, this is impossible.
However the devil has twisted and distorted church teachings so much that there truely is a brand new church, a new order (Novus Ordo) and the true church has been reduced in population to a mere shell of what it once was, but it will survive: “That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it. And behold I am with you all days, even to the consummation of the world.” Matt. 16:18 & 28:20
*… Makes one think. Scripture does say that MANY will be deceived. I’m not saying that what that website it true but it does make one think and I’d be interested in hearing other view points.
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beckycmarie
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Hmmm. . .whoever’s rantings those are sounds like the Catholic version of the tin-foil hat wearer to me.
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AttachedToSix
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The website you posted is from a “Traditionalist” Catholic Church. They do not accept Vatican II nor any Pope after Pius X : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Traditional_Catholic#Schismatic.3F
I assume that the quotes from Pope John Paul II were taken out of context to try to prove their point. Since he was a Pope, he was infallible on teachings of the Church.
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Sir_Knight
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Thanks for clarifying that.
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mangy_dog
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- Bless the object with Holy Water.
- Destroy the object so that it no longer resembles what it was. If burnable, burn it. Break into pieces, take apart or damage as best as possible.
- Dig a hole, bury it, sprinkle area with Holy Water, place a St. Benedict medal on top of remains.
a) If burying object is not possible, bless with Holy Water and throw in garbage, wrap in newspaper so it is not found by someone else and used again. - Pray to God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit; the Mother of God; Saint’s Peter and Paul; the Archangel Michael; all the saints and angels of heaven to remove the evil that this object has caused and regain the ground the demons had taken and claim it again for the Lord Jesus Christ.
- Fill the hole and forget about it.
- Person or persons owning or using the item should go to Confession immediately. Let nothing deter you from the Sacrament of Confession. Recieve absolution and do your penance.
- Make a very sober act of contrition and thanksgiving.
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