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What are they? They are involved in just about every conspiracy theory I have heard of.
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Bob_Crowley
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A link can be found at -
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
According to the article, a real “Illuminati” existed in Bavaria in the 18h century and was supposed to have been disbanded, or destroyed by government fiat.
Apparently it had an appeal to the literati of the time. I’ve often heard Johann Wolfgang von Goethe quoted in one way or another, but the only thing I’ve read was a poem of his when I did a bit of German at school. But whenever I read his name, I get this funny sort of feeling about him. I can’t pin it down, but I wonder if he dabbled in spiritualism or mysticism, amongst other things. If he’d been in the Illuminati as claimed in the article, then I’d assume he did. it seems a bit strange that he would write “Faust” for example and then claim membership of the Illuminati.
My old pastor was not much into last days stuff. He felt a lot of the modern end-times theology was of American origin and was a ‘bit weird’ to quote his own words. He commented the Europeans had a much longer Christian experience, and they didn’t feel the same way about events as the Protestant Americans seemed to do. I suppose one could put the American fascination with last days theology to the fact that as Bonhoeffer put it, American Protestantism was the result of a church in flight, fleeing persecution rather than staying behind to fight it. The second factor was the Civil War which had a tremendous influence on a religious society, along the the huge loss of young men at the time. It would have been one of the influences on Mormon polygamy for example.
However he did comment “I think they’re (the Illuminati) are alive and well.” I suppose it’s not too difficult to imagine a cabal of very powerful and / or wealthy individuals using their influence in some sort of network to aim at world government and domination. After all, if the literal Anti-Christ is going to be a man, he won’t be able to do it by himself. He’d need a lot of willing support.
So I’m inclined to go along with the old pastor’s comment, but proving it is another matter. From experience I found he was usually right, and I could give you several prophecies where he proved to be correct after his death eg. talking just after the First Gulf War, he commented, “I think there’ll be a Second Gulf War. I think the Americans will have had enough of him (Saddam Hussein) and they’ll get rid of him. But I think they might lose a few men the next time.”, with an emphasis on “few” which clearly implied he meant they’d lose more than a “few”. History bears that out for example.
So I’m inclined to think they exist today, but on the other hand, I don’t go in for conspiracy theories, except for a few instances. I think Nikita Kruschev was behind the John Kennedy assassination for example, as Kennedy had stared him down over the Cuba missile crisis. He wasn’t the sort of man to take that lying down. Hence the silencing of Lee Harvey Oswald after the fact, as he had been in Russia. I suspect when the Politburo found out, they got rid of Kruschev, as he would have been seen as too much of a risk taker.
That was his opinion more or less, and it makes sense.
So I think the Illuminati exists, in one form or another.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminati
According to the article, a real “Illuminati” existed in Bavaria in the 18h century and was supposed to have been disbanded, or destroyed by government fiat.
Apparently it had an appeal to the literati of the time. I’ve often heard Johann Wolfgang von Goethe quoted in one way or another, but the only thing I’ve read was a poem of his when I did a bit of German at school. But whenever I read his name, I get this funny sort of feeling about him. I can’t pin it down, but I wonder if he dabbled in spiritualism or mysticism, amongst other things. If he’d been in the Illuminati as claimed in the article, then I’d assume he did. it seems a bit strange that he would write “Faust” for example and then claim membership of the Illuminati.
My old pastor was not much into last days stuff. He felt a lot of the modern end-times theology was of American origin and was a ‘bit weird’ to quote his own words. He commented the Europeans had a much longer Christian experience, and they didn’t feel the same way about events as the Protestant Americans seemed to do. I suppose one could put the American fascination with last days theology to the fact that as Bonhoeffer put it, American Protestantism was the result of a church in flight, fleeing persecution rather than staying behind to fight it. The second factor was the Civil War which had a tremendous influence on a religious society, along the the huge loss of young men at the time. It would have been one of the influences on Mormon polygamy for example.
However he did comment “I think they’re (the Illuminati) are alive and well.” I suppose it’s not too difficult to imagine a cabal of very powerful and / or wealthy individuals using their influence in some sort of network to aim at world government and domination. After all, if the literal Anti-Christ is going to be a man, he won’t be able to do it by himself. He’d need a lot of willing support.
So I’m inclined to go along with the old pastor’s comment, but proving it is another matter. From experience I found he was usually right, and I could give you several prophecies where he proved to be correct after his death eg. talking just after the First Gulf War, he commented, “I think there’ll be a Second Gulf War. I think the Americans will have had enough of him (Saddam Hussein) and they’ll get rid of him. But I think they might lose a few men the next time.”, with an emphasis on “few” which clearly implied he meant they’d lose more than a “few”. History bears that out for example.
So I’m inclined to think they exist today, but on the other hand, I don’t go in for conspiracy theories, except for a few instances. I think Nikita Kruschev was behind the John Kennedy assassination for example, as Kennedy had stared him down over the Cuba missile crisis. He wasn’t the sort of man to take that lying down. Hence the silencing of Lee Harvey Oswald after the fact, as he had been in Russia. I suspect when the Politburo found out, they got rid of Kruschev, as he would have been seen as too much of a risk taker.
That was his opinion more or less, and it makes sense.
So I think the Illuminati exists, in one form or another.
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Isa_is_Allah
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Illuminati are people who worship Lucifer and Satan and by doing that they give their souls to him in exchange for fame and fortune. Most of the music produced today heavily contains Satanic lyrics and symbolism. They control everything today, including the government. Obama is a satanist, Bill Clinton is a satanist, George Bush is a satanist. Some say our very own Pope is an illuminati agent. They basically have unlimited money. They planned the 9/11 attacks, the Oil Spill etc…Amazingly, the Japan Earthquake was part of their plans.
When the 9/11 attacks happened, they blamed it on the Islamic fanatics in the Middle East so that they can create War there and when America takes control, they also take control of the oil, meaning that they can disrupt the economy, which is their plan. In doing so, they will create a New World Order, which will most likely take place in 2012. It will be a one world government, meaning that the Illuminati have control over the world. Whats so bad about that? They want to reduce the worlds population to 500 million people. That’s roughly a 90% deduction of the worlds population, which probably means death for you and me. They will do this through war, famine, viruses etc…Which is what the Bible says will happen before the 2nd coming of Jesus.
They also try to get people away from God as much as possible because this is Satans plan, he wants to take as many people as he can with him to Hell, because he knows he can’t win against God.
I recommend you research the following:
1.Illuminati: New World Order card game - A card game made back in 1995 which tells the future.
2.FEMA Concentration Camps & FEMA Coffins
3.Martial Law
They also plan a fake Alien invasion and a big event will occur in the 2012 Olympics.
When the 9/11 attacks happened, they blamed it on the Islamic fanatics in the Middle East so that they can create War there and when America takes control, they also take control of the oil, meaning that they can disrupt the economy, which is their plan. In doing so, they will create a New World Order, which will most likely take place in 2012. It will be a one world government, meaning that the Illuminati have control over the world. Whats so bad about that? They want to reduce the worlds population to 500 million people. That’s roughly a 90% deduction of the worlds population, which probably means death for you and me. They will do this through war, famine, viruses etc…Which is what the Bible says will happen before the 2nd coming of Jesus.
They also try to get people away from God as much as possible because this is Satans plan, he wants to take as many people as he can with him to Hell, because he knows he can’t win against God.
I recommend you research the following:
1.Illuminati: New World Order card game - A card game made back in 1995 which tells the future.
2.FEMA Concentration Camps & FEMA Coffins
3.Martial Law
They also plan a fake Alien invasion and a big event will occur in the 2012 Olympics.
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PiousTemplar
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Thanks, very interesting.
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Publisher
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I believe much of the Illuminati’s existence was myth…much like the Rosicrucians. During the “Age of Enlightment” the occult/spiritism had a resurgence and these belief systems were used to further “modern thought” to an extent. Many Illuminati and Rosicrucian beliefs have their counterparts in Masonry…there is no strong evidence that either the Illuminati or Rosicrucians in the 18th - 19th centuries even existed…we know Masonic Lodges were being formed as early as the 17th century…Kaballah/Jewish mysticism helped form many Masonic beliefs…as well as many Templar myths.Thanks, very interesting.
From the evidence…I really don’t believe the Illumati as an organization existed…it was more of a “mind set” of thought…not an organizational construct.
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GaryTaylor
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Hers’a link where you can start researching if you so desire.
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