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I’m wondering what is the bare minimum required for a valid sacrifice of the mass + sacrament of communion. For arguments sake lets do a (slightly ridiculous) hypothetical situation, lets say it’s a battle and there is a “battlefield priest” on scene.
I think I heard somewhere that for confession, all that is required is that the priest says “I absolve you of your sins”. You don’t even have to actually confess anything specific (although presumably you have to indicate that you recognise you are a sinner).
I find this topic interesting because it sorta shows how there is a core requirement for valid sacraments, and that core requirement can be found across all the different rites in the church and even outside the church sometimes. So even though the rituals of the different rites are all very different and unique, there is still this fundamental minimum which is always present. I’d just like to know what that minimum is
- A bunch of soldiers get shot and wounded and dragged to cover.
- The priest comes over with some bread and wine.
- The priest says the words “This is my body” to the bread, and then says “This is my blood” to the wine. (These are the words of institution, which are supposed to cause the transubstantiation)
- The priest consumes part of the bread (Sacramentally speaking, this is supposed to be the exact moment where Christ is sacrificed). He then drinks the wine.
- The priest divides up and distributes the remainder of the bread to the wounded soldiers
- in the situation I’ve described above, has there actually been a valid sacrifice of the mass? I understand that in this situation there is almost no liturgy to speak of, so I’m wondering if a liturgy is “strictly essential” in order for the mass/sacrifice to be valid.
- I’m also wondering if the situation described above would be sacramentally valid? Would the soldiers receive an increase of sanctifying/justifying grace in this situation? (assuming they are in a state of grace of course)
I think I heard somewhere that for confession, all that is required is that the priest says “I absolve you of your sins”. You don’t even have to actually confess anything specific (although presumably you have to indicate that you recognise you are a sinner).
I find this topic interesting because it sorta shows how there is a core requirement for valid sacraments, and that core requirement can be found across all the different rites in the church and even outside the church sometimes. So even though the rituals of the different rites are all very different and unique, there is still this fundamental minimum which is always present. I’d just like to know what that minimum is