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Wesley7
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What is the specific name of the Daily Mass on EWTN? . . (Or what is the Mass called?)
Tridentine? . .
Tridentine? . .
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MarkThompson
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It’s definitely not Tridentine. If you’re familiar with the difference between the Mass of Paul VI and the [Tridentine Mass](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tridentine Mass), it’s the former. Most Catholics would just call it “Mass”; you could also call it a Mass “in the Ordinary Form,” which is a term the Pope has used to describe the status of the Mass of Paul VI.What is the specific name of the Daily Mass on EWTN? . . (Or what is the Mass called?)
Tridentine? . .
If I knew what exactly it was that you were interested in knowing, maybe I could help further.
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Wesley7
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It is said in Latin - so is it just called Daily Mass? . . I like watching it a Midnight.It’s definitely not Tridentine. If you’re familiar with the difference between the Mass of Paul VI and the [Tridentine Mass](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tridentine Mass), it’s the former. Most Catholics would just call it “Mass”; you could also call it a Mass “in the Ordinary Form,” which is a term the Pope has used to describe the status of the Mass of Paul VI.
If I knew what exactly it was that you were interested in knowing, maybe I could help further.
It is probably just “Daily Mass” and doesn’t have specifice name attached to it.
I personally like the Mass where the catholic priest is facing the Altar and the sacrament and not the people (the body of Christ) . .
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MarkThompson
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Latin is the language that both the old (Tridentine; Extraordinary Form) and modern (Pauline; Ordinary Form) forms of the Mass are written in. It’s just that the old form can only be said in Latin (with a few very minor historical exceptions), while the modern form has also been translated into many current languages. So a parish can have a Mass in English at 11:15 and a Mass in Spanish at 1:30, with both being modern form of the Mass, just in different languages; likewise, a parish can have the modern form in English at 9:00, and the modern form in Latin at 11:00 – and also the old form (in Latin, of course) at 7:30 and 12:30.It is said in Latin - so is it just called Daily Mass? . . I like watching it a Midnight.
It is probably just “Daily Mass” and doesn’t have specifice name attached to it.
I personally like the Mass where the catholic priest is facing the Altar and the sacrament and not the people (the body of Christ) . .
By the way, unless I’ve missed some major developments, the daily Mass on EWTN isn’t really “in” Latin. It uses some Latin, for parts the Eucharistic Prayer, the Gloria, and so on, but at a genuine Extraordinary Form (Tridentine) Mass, everything, including the readings (though not including the homily) would be in Latin.
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Wesley7
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Thank you for your help
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Claire_from_DE
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Isn’t the gospel then read in the vernacular before the sermon? It used to be done that way when I was growing up. I don’t remember the epistle being read in English. But doesn’t it make sense that the gospel should be proclaimed to the people in their own language? May this be done in the EF or must it always be in Latin?Latin is the language that both the old (Tridentine; Extraordinary Form) and modern (Pauline; Ordinary Form) forms of the Mass are written in. It’s just that the old form can only be said in Latin (with a few very minor historical exceptions), while the modern form has also been translated into many current languages. So a parish can have a Mass in English at 11:15 and a Mass in Spanish at 1:30, with both being modern form of the Mass, just in different languages; likewise, a parish can have the modern form in English at 9:00, and the modern form in Latin at 11:00 – and also the old form (in Latin, of course) at 7:30 and 12:30.
By the way, unless I’ve missed some major developments, the daily Mass on EWTN isn’t really “in” Latin. It uses some Latin, for parts the Eucharistic Prayer, the Gloria, and so on, but at a genuine Extraordinary Form (Tridentine) Mass, everything, including the readings (though not including the homily) would be in Latin.
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MarkThompson
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As I understand it, the rereading of the Gospel is considered part of the homily, and not an actual liturgical part of the Mass. I think there have also been alterations in some cases in which the readings are just straight-out done in the vernacular, but I’m not fully sure whether that’s ever been legitimate or if it’s just an alteration that people make on the fly because it makes sense.Isn’t the gospel then read in the vernacular before the sermon? It used to be done that way when I was growing up. I don’t remember the epistle being read in English. But doesn’t it make sense that the gospel should be proclaimed to the people in their own language? May this be done in the EF or must it always be in Latin?
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ProVobis
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At the parish I attend the EF, the Latin epistle and gospel is suppressed although to me it makes more sense to have the epistle and gospel in Latin and then read in the vernacular at the sermon. Theoretically you should be able to remember more that way, especially if you make an effort to understand the Latin yourself. This is not required, just saying.Isn’t the gospel then read in the vernacular before the sermon? It used to be done that way when I was growing up. I don’t remember the epistle being read in English. But doesn’t it make sense that the gospel should be proclaimed to the people in their own language? May this be done in the EF or must it always be in Latin?
On the other hand, one of the conditions for the EF is that it be said only in Latin by a priest who knows “good Latin” (according to Cardinal Arinze) so there appears to be some doubt as to whether the suppression of Latin in the readings is really a good idea. There is no vernacular in the missal of Pope John XXIII, the 1962 Missal.
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ljubim
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A couple of good ways to tell if a Mass is the Tridentine Mass is:
-People will genuflect during the Credo where people at the OF (should) bow.
-There’s a piece of a Psalm read at the beginning, and the priest won’t be on the altar quite yet, but will stand in front for a while while the prayers are said.
-Most of the time there’s another Gospel reading at the end (if you’re totally lost, you’ll notice that everybody stands and makes the three mini signs of the cross on head, lips and heart.)
Things such as the beauty of the church, the way people receive the Eucharist, the language, the music and the presence of incense don’t say a thing about which form is being used. Ideally a Novus Ordo should resemble the Tridentine Mass in this way too. That’s why we see a lot of cardinals and papal Masses with such lovely externals… this is Catholic, this is how it should be. It’s a tragedy that beauty and a sense of the sacred can only be found in the Traditional Latin Mass for so many people (count me in).
-People will genuflect during the Credo where people at the OF (should) bow.
-There’s a piece of a Psalm read at the beginning, and the priest won’t be on the altar quite yet, but will stand in front for a while while the prayers are said.
-Most of the time there’s another Gospel reading at the end (if you’re totally lost, you’ll notice that everybody stands and makes the three mini signs of the cross on head, lips and heart.)
Things such as the beauty of the church, the way people receive the Eucharist, the language, the music and the presence of incense don’t say a thing about which form is being used. Ideally a Novus Ordo should resemble the Tridentine Mass in this way too. That’s why we see a lot of cardinals and papal Masses with such lovely externals… this is Catholic, this is how it should be. It’s a tragedy that beauty and a sense of the sacred can only be found in the Traditional Latin Mass for so many people (count me in).
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