What is the use of libido if you are called to a celibate life anyways?

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What are the good things of having a sexual urge and the ability to be attracted to girls if you are called to a celibate life? For one that is called to celibate chastity, is the sexual urge only a source for temptations that are supposed to be overcome, or are there actually something good with it that you honestly can thank God for?

I guess that when used in a chaste way in marriage, the sexuality (specifically, the ability to get aroused) could be a help in strengthening the bonds between spouses, and that this would have been the original reason God created us this way. But, seeing how widely misused it has become, was it really worth it?
 
As a celibate, it could get tough sometimes especially in this world’s climate. So often also, people think it’s love when it really is only attraction…which can be somewhat consuming and confusing. But I guess though I pray for priests, I don’t seem to have much of a response for you regarding the simple fact of the sexual urge. Could it be said that as an isolated fact of nature it doesn’t represent so much that way for many females? We need to be more invested in the other person? Perhaps some would disagree. That’s probably why I can only answer from a viewpoint of human companionship, as below, because it’s the framework in which I’d have your question… whereas it isn’t necessarily so for more males than females?

“We live in the flesh, of course, but the muscles that we fight with are not of the flesh.” [2 Corinthians 10:3] “Stand firm against the devil, and he will run away from you.” [James 4:7] “There are eunuchs who have made themselves that way for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Let anyone accept this that can.” [Matthew 19:12]
Religious life and companionship
Jesus, encourage those You call to serve as Priests and Religious the grace to consider their intention honestly. Some Priests and Religious suffer temptation to abandon their vocations. Some lose faith in God and Church. Some regret loss of personal freedom. Some are troubled by lack of close companionship.

A lifelong sacrifice of parenthood and marital companionship requires careful reflection, remembering that compassion for Adam’s loneliness led the Spirit to breathe life into Eve. This ensured mutual companionship and means to ensure propagation of humankind. Therefore, Jesus, we pray for Your Priests and Religious who are lonely or over-extended. Help them to find loyal friendship amongst their colleagues, and appropriate support and hospitality from their communities and congregations. Let them find sufficient satisfaction in their vocations as they continue towards holiness in service of Your people.

Jesus, You were never less human than we are. In the grace and love that filled You, the prayer that nurtured You, and the penance that gave You strength against the temptations of nature, You remained the more sensitively human. You stood alone before us, sinless, and celibate in holy witness to the state to which You invite Your chosen ones.

Called to carry the cross of atonement for all human sin, You renounced self, submitting to God’s Will, obedient to the Holy Spirit in everything. You served gladly and humbly, without seeking to be served, giving Your life as ransom for all who accept Your salvation. To this sacrifice, You quietly invite those whom You call.

You invite them to set aside their right to exclusive marital companionship, so that they give unencumbered support to their sisters and brothers in Christ. Acceptance of such commitment may entail occasions of loneliness, yet isolation and struggle characterises many marriages, for each state has its blessings and its crosses.

Should anyone fail to carry their vocational cross, please bless and restore them and anyone injured by them. Let Your Priests and Religious always solicit Your strength where human frailty undermines their commitment. Give them trust that You will never abandon them to their weaknesses and failures.

You continue to offer faith, obedience, charity, perseverance, prayer and penance. If they sometimes fail to accept these, then You continue tenderly to hold out the restoring graces of rational balance and of Your compassionate forgiveness.

Grant wisdom in fraternity so that Your priests remain in Your service to truly love everyone with undivided heart. Give them compassion that leads to spiritual insight and human wholeness in accord with Your creative and redemptive purpose. Blessed is our God, who so loves His creatures! Worship Yourself in them and serve others in them!

Guarding against fornication
Our God, perhaps some time during his or her life someone may be particularly attracted to another person. You reveal Yourself to us in others, to share some priceless blessing of Your love and goodness with us. Our perception prefigures the spiritual ‘inloveness’ of angelic communion that will reverberate between all persons in Heaven as gift of spiritual brotherhood intended to serve You in us.

Our God, let no one be confused or led astray by inappropriate attractions. Feelings are natural human responses. They will sometimes fade if commonsense prevails. Sin and foolishness only enter if feelings are acted upon; therefore, guard Your ministers and Your people with commonsense and mutual charity.
 
What are the good things of having a sexual urge and the ability to be attracted to girls if you are called to a celibate life? For one that is called to celibate chastity, is the sexual urge only a source for temptations that are supposed to be overcome, or are there actually something good with it that you honestly can thank God for?

I guess that when used in a chaste way in marriage, the sexuality (specifically, the ability to get aroused) could be a help in strengthening the bonds between spouses, and that this would have been the original reason God created us this way. But, seeing how widely misused it has become, was it really worth it?
You pose your question about sexual attraction in the plural, “the ability to be attracted to girls”. What good it that if you are called to celibacy? What good is that if you are called to marriage, monogamy?

In either case it is an issue of nature vs. grace. God calls us to live above our nature which is fallen.
 
You pose your question about sexual attraction in the plural, “the ability to be attracted to girls”. What good it that if you are called to celibacy? What good is that if you are called to marriage, monogamy?

In either case it is an issue of nature vs. grace. God calls us to live above our nature which is fallen.
And remember too, the attraction isn’t an end in itself. The attraction is given for a reason - it’s because sex is a powerful way to connect with a person.

So it’s not really a desire for sex per se, but a desire for connection, for intimacy. Priests understand this and satisfy that particular desire in many non-sexual ways, so do other celibate people.
 
What are the good things of having a sexual urge and the ability to be attracted to girls if you are called to a celibate life? For one that is called to celibate chastity, is the sexual urge only a source for temptations that are supposed to be overcome, or are there actually something good with it that you honestly can thank God for?
I wish this thread were in apologetics or moral theology so it might get more traffic. It is a very good question and really at the heart of Pope John Paul II’s, Theology of the Body (TOB.)

The question of libido and passions applies to all of us, married, celibates and those singles who may one day marry. When we are looking to help young people stay chaste we must address the passion of the body straight on. It is in ignoring or stuffing that our youth fall into unchaste behavior. Puritanism doesn’t equal chastity. In fact it is in direct opposition to it.

In TOB our late Holy Father says that we all have a nuptial body. So what does nuptial body mean? Earthly marriage is an analogy from heavenly marriage, not the other way around. It isn’t that Christ’s marriage to His bride, the Church, is “kinda” like our marriages. Our marriages are “kinda” like THE marriage of Christ and the Church.

Our libido is a less understood form of passion for our Lord. That sense of arousal is something we come to recognize as desire for a physical bond with a loved one. When we participate in the marital act we are experiencing a glimmer of being one flesh with Our Lord. It is no coincidence that the word of what we do with Eucharist, “consume,” is from the same root as the word for the marital act, “consummation.” In the Douay-Riemes translation of Scripture our Lord uses the same word as He dies on the cross. In the NAB translation He says, “It is finished.” In the translation that uses more passionate words He says, “It is consummated.” WOW!

Celibates have passed over a lesser earthly consummation for a heavenly one. They are already experiencing the marriage with our Lord while still living. There are saints who have experienced visions so amazing they are referred to as ‘ecstasies.’ It is only our fallen nature that has taken our natural passions and exchanged them for lust. Our young people need be told that the simple hormonal attraction has a much deeper purpose. It is there to unite us with God. We will all enjoy the heavenly banquet as one flesh with Christ, as His bride, the Church.
 
dictionary.reference.com/browse/sublimation
**sub·li·mate **http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/graphics/luna/thinsp.png
1.Psychology. to divert the energy of (a sexual or other biological impulse) from its immediate goal to one of a more acceptable social, moral, or aesthetic nature or use.
I am no expert for absolutely sure, and the above is a psychological explanation and insofar as I am aware too, a psychological theory only.
In other words, the libido is diverted from its immediate goal into a different goal (and in this instance a spiritual one), and this is the use of the libido in celibacy to respond to the OP question.
Sublimation does not preclude normal healthy and non sexual male/female relationships.

Blessings and regards…Barb:)
 
Here’s a quote from the Student Bible for Catholics:

"Q: Lord, I’m confused about why we have all these sexual urges in the first place. Why would you give me these sexual attractions if you didn’t want me to act on them?

A: I gave you many urges and drives. The drive to eat. The need to sleep. Each of your urges serves a purpose in my love for you, but each must be controlled. If you eat too much, you can become overweight. If you sleep too much, you can get lazy. Your sexual energy must be controlled as well."
 
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