What makes masturbation a sin?

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We must trust that masturbation is wrong because Holy Mother Church says that it is. All the intellectualizing in the world shall not change this.

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Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven; and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven.
 
Why do sites like nofap.org exist? Because even ATHEISTS have seen how masturbation is harmful.
My position is that anything done to excess can be harmful, and that there is nothing inherently different about masturbation that make it any more harmful than other habits, preoccupations, etc., that are done to excess over an extended period of time.
 
My position is that anything done to excess can be harmful, and that there is nothing inherently different about masturbation that make it any more harmful than other habits, preoccupations, etc., that are done to excess over an extended period of time.
This ignors the fact that it is the nature of a person that makes masturbation inherently immoral, whereas other habits (vices) take otherwise moral, or amoral actions to an excess.
 
I think the Onan argument is not the best in the case against masturbation, and many promoters of masturbation argue that Onan was struck down for not planting his seed. He wasn’t masturbating, per se, and at the same time, in a way, he was.

Onan was having sexual relations for sexual gratification and not embracing the life-giving nature of sex. The sexual act has multiple parts- sexual pleasure and intimacy, and is life-giving.

I heard a talk by Fr. Mike Smitz online and he articulates it very well. Here’s my paraphrase of his talk:

*Tthe nature of eating is for nourishment and pleasure. If I eat for simply nourishment, I am not violating the nature of eating because the act of eating stays in tact. If I eat simply for pleasure (without overindulging), I am not violating the nature of eating because the act of eating stays in tact. However, if I eat and then deliberately make myself vomit, I am violating the act of eating because I am going against the nature and purpose of eating. It’s disordered and I harm myself.

Sex is for sexual union, intimacy, and pleasure, as well as being procreative. If a couple are wanting a child, and decide to have sex simply because the woman is ovulating, they have not gone against the nature of the sexual act… it was still unitive, pleasurable, and procreative. Likewise, if a couple have sex only for the purpose of intimacy and the woman does not happen to be fertile, they have still not violated the nature of the sexual act because it was unitive, pleasurable, and OPEN to life. *

And this is paraphrased from a talk I heard by Christopher West:
*Every organ in our body has a purpose and is complete by itself, except for our sexual organs. My heart doesn’t need another to be complete. It functions as a heart, and a liver functions fully as a liver, my spleen as a spleen… But my sexual organs make no sense by themselves. They are incomplete. The sexual organs only function FULLY when united with the opposite sex. *

Masturbation violates the nature of our sexual organs. It self stimulates them without the intention for completion of the act. It violates the unitive and procreative aspects of our sexual organs by deliberately aiming to only receive the sexual pleasure of the act. When we violate somethings nature, we do harm to it. The bulimic who throws up the first time may not feel bad afterwards. She may wonder and not see the harm in what she’s doing at first, but over time, it damages her body and her way of thinking and seeing herself. Both her physiology and psychology are damaged. Her behavior is disordered, so disordered, perhaps, that she sees nothing wrong with her behavior. Masturbation, too, may not seem bad at first, especially to the person who is masturbating, but over time, it damages the emotional and psychological well-being of the person, but even more than that, it damages their soul. Why?

God gave us the ability to procreate! This act can bring forth new life. The sexual union reflects the image of the Trinity! Masturbation defiles that image. It only seeks to receive pleasure while avoiding union and life. It draws one into themselves. When we look at the Trinity, and then look at the devil, there is an interesting parallel to the sexual/marital act v.s. masturbation. The Father is all-giving to the Son and the Son is all-giving to the Father and it brings forth a third person - The Holy Spirit. The devil, on the other hand, looks only at himself, seeks to pleasure himself, and is only concerned about himself, and therefore, only has himself.

Masturbation is pure evil because it defiles our very human nature.
 
Do you not think that too much of sex with a woman whether your wife or not damages you both physiologically,psychologically and otherwise? So is masturbation. But this whole claim about masturbation affecting people psychologically is just rooted in these expressions you make. This view that it is a sin burdens some people with so much guilt and that is what affects them psychologically and not masturbation itself. What do you think?
 
There is something we have not thought about. The basis on which the church bases the catechism teaching that masturbation is a sin is on ‘constant tradition’ and ‘moral belief of the faithful’. These are not strong enough based on the fact that these traditions or moral beliefs may be based on uninformed ideas or limited knowledge of the human physiology or psychology or even wrong cosmology. For instance, when corpenicus said that the world is spherical. What was the response of the people? People said it was a lie because the church taught it was flat. The church was right based on the cosmology of the time and the scriptures that said ‘the pillars of the earth belong to God’ and when the bible talks about ‘the waters above the heavens’ and ‘he kept it (the earth) on the seas’. All these portended flat surface. Again when he said the earth moves round the sun, it was thrown out because people believed and taught that the earth is the centre. So, I may prophesy, even though I am not a prophet that time may come when it will be taught that masturbation is no sin. I want to know what you think about this.
 
When we violate somethings nature, we do harm to it. The bulimic who throws up the first time may not feel bad afterwards. She may wonder and not see the harm in what she’s doing at first, but over time, it damages her body and her way of thinking and seeing herself. Both her physiology and psychology are damaged. Her behavior is disordered, so disordered, perhaps, that she sees nothing wrong with her behavior. Masturbation, too, may not seem bad at first, especially to the person who is masturbating, but over time, it damages the emotional and psychological well-being of the person, but even more than that, it damages their soul.
I"m sorry, but this is a ludicrous comparison. Bulimia is a psychiatric eating disorder. It is life threatening. Masturbation is not a psychiatric sexual disorder and is not life threatening.
 
The guilt and self-loathing that arises as a consequence of our over emphasis of the sinfulness of masturbation is more harmful to our souls and more spiritually damaging than the masturbation itself.
 
The guilt and self-loathing that arises as a consequence of our over emphasis of the sinfulness of masturbation is more harmful to our souls and more spiritually damaging than the masturbation itself.
I think you are really getting the point.
 
There is something we have not thought about. The basis on which the church bases the catechism teaching that masturbation is a sin is on ‘constant tradition’ and ‘moral belief of the faithful’. These are not strong enough based on the fact that these traditions or moral beliefs may be based on uninformed ideas or limited knowledge of the human physiology or psychology or even wrong cosmology. For instance, when corpenicus said that the world is spherical. What was the response of the people? People said it was a lie because the church taught it was flat. The church was right based on the cosmology of the time and the scriptures that said ‘the pillars of the earth belong to God’ and when the bible talks about ‘the waters above the heavens’ and ‘he kept it (the earth) on the seas’. All these portended flat surface. Again when he said the earth moves round the sun, it was thrown out because people believed and taught that the earth is the centre. So, I may prophesy, even though I am not a prophet that time may come when it will be taught that masturbation is no sin. I want to know what you think about this.
This post indicates a very dismal understanding of the Church’s basis for her teaching. May I suggest that more study of the Catechism and a work by St Pope Paul II, Theology of the Body, is order before claims that the Church basis is not strong enough, are made. Neither of the two things list in your second sentence are correctly stated as the basis for the Church’s teaching. You also may want to get your fact straight with regard to Copernicus.
 
I think you are really getting the point.
Well, seriously. Take a 12 or 13 year old boy whose body is changing in ways it hasn’t changed since he was in the womb. Saturate his system with a whole new set of hormones. Charge up his brain with the urge to reproduce, an urge that is so strong it clouds his judgement and focuses his thoughts on reproduction with wholly new intensities and attractions.

Then when he masturbates, and all those hormones start flushing in different directions, let him realize that he’s has endangered his immortal soul because he was spiritually too weak, undisciplined, placed himself in the occasion of sin, and let him bear the full weight of his sinfulness.

Then a day, or two, or three or a week later, run the cycle all over again.

Then we worry about scrupulosity, we have to reassure people that a person is not culpable for what happens during dreams, and we pray for young men who are falling away from the Church.

How about we stop obsessing about sex, whether it be the sinfulness of everything that’s not uniative and procreative, or what a tremendous nearly sacramental gift fro God our sexuality is? And just. chill. out.
 
Well, seriously. Take a 12 or 13 year old boy whose body is changing in ways it hasn’t changed since he was in the womb. Saturate his system with a whole new set of hormones. Charge up his brain with the urge to reproduce, an urge that is so strong it clouds his judgement and focuses his thoughts on reproduction with wholly new intensities and attractions.

Then when he masturbates, and all those hormones start flushing in different directions, let him realize that he’s has endangered his immortal soul because he was spiritually too weak, undisciplined, placed himself in the occasion of sin, and let him bear the full weight of his sinfulness.

Then a day, or two, or three or a week later, run the cycle all over again.

Then we worry about scrupulosity, we have to reassure people that a person is not culpable for what happens during dreams, and we pray for young men who are falling away from the Church.

How about we stop obsessing about sex, whether it be the sinfulness of everything that’s not uniative and procreative, or what a tremendous nearly sacramental gift fro God our sexuality is? And just. chill. out.
The only ones obsessing about sex are those who reject the Church’s teaching on sexual morality. It is not the Church. Sexual morality occupies only a small segment of the teachings.
 
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