“Atheist groups are much less intimidated proclaiming Jesus as a myth, notwithstanding that John Dickson (Founding Director of the Center of Public Christianity) challenged that if any atheist could find a full professor of Classics, Ancient History or the New Testament in any Accredited University in the world who believes that Jesus never lived, he would eat a page out of his Bible (6). His Bible has remained quite safe”;Over the years I’ve encountered skeptics who believe there is no proof that Christ really lived … that such a claim had to have been fabricated. I’ve never seen proof of this, nor am I aware of the likelihood that such proof could exist anywhere.
What say you?
This is too funny.youtube.com/watch?v=zdqJyk-dtLs
Bart Ehrman (atheist, liberal biblical scholar) refutes this claim, pointing out he knows thousands of scholars of the ancient world, but not one of them denies the existence of Jesus. The only areas you find people promoting the idea that Christ was a myth are on blogs and youtube videos (like the oft-debunked Zeitgeist film).
Yes, unfortunately that’s what passes for rational thought in New-Atheist circles.This is too funny.
The radio host is so fantastically ignorant. He’s doing nothing to advance anything except his lame agenda.
Do people actually listen to this guy?
Boring.:yawn:
There is no proof for this assertion whatsoever. Jesus is mentioned in four Gospels which are meant to be eyewitness accounts. Even if they weren’t he is still a huge character in the Gospels and is extremely unlikely to just have been completely made up. Jesus is mentioned in other non-Christian sources as well like Josephus. Certain of the apostles were Jesus’s cousins and are mentioned to be as such (though they are referred to as ‘brothers’). If Jesus never even existed and nobody ever even saw him it would be nearly impossible to convince anyone to think you have a family relation to him. Moreover, many of the apostles were willing to die for Jesus. It is utterly stupid and ridiculous to think that they died for someone who they certainly knew never even existed. Nearly no Biblical historian or scholar would ever assert that Jesus never existed, and that shows a lot, since most of them are either liberal theologians or atheists/agnostics.Over the years I’ve encountered skeptics who believe there is no proof that Christ really lived … that such a claim had to have been fabricated. I’ve never seen proof of this, nor am I aware of the likelihood that such proof could exist anywhere.
What say you?
There’s a spectrum of stances on this ranging from “Jesus Christ never existed” to “Jesus did exists, but the stories of him are embellished and exaggerated.” (There are some people that identify as Christians that also don’t believe that Jesus Christ existed, but that’s a discussion for another day about the many positions that can be conflated in the phrase “believe in”). Some related discussion on this is going on in the thread about “.” I thought Tyrion did a nice summary of aspects of claims to be considered.Over the years I’ve encountered skeptics who believe there is no proof that Christ really lived … that such a claim had to have been fabricated. I’ve never seen proof of this, nor am I aware of the likelihood that such proof could exist anywhere.
The proof for me is the internal truth of the Scriptures. No one could have dreamed up something so fantastic. In the entire pagan world at the time of Christ’s birth no one had a concept of a God who was pure spirit who created the world out of nothing and who created man for Himself, for whom He was a personal God and to Whom man would be accountable, That man had a spiritual soul that would survive death and that man was destined to live eternally as a person composed of his reunited body and soul;that there is a Trinity of Persons in the One God, that Jesus Christ was true God and true man, and that He was conceived by the power of the Spirit through an ever virgin, Mary.Over the years I’ve encountered skeptics who believe there is no proof that Christ really lived … that such a claim had to have been fabricated. I’ve never seen proof of this, nor am I aware of the likelihood that such proof could exist anywhere.
What say you?
Ehrman is agnosticyoutube.com/watch?v=zdqJyk-dtLs
Bart Ehrman (atheist, liberal biblical scholar) refutes this claim, pointing out he knows thousands of scholars of the ancient world, but not one of them denies the existence of Jesus. The only areas you find people promoting the idea that Christ was a myth are on blogs and youtube videos (like the oft-debunked Zeitgeist film).
Yes an most liberal ‘extreme scholars’ take the latter position.There’s a spectrum of stances on this ranging from “Jesus Christ never existed” to “Jesus did exists, but the stories of him are embellished and exaggerated.” (There are some people that identify as Christians that also don’t believe that Jesus Christ existed, but that’s a discussion for another day about the many positions that can be conflated in the phrase “believe in”). Some related discussion on this is going on in the thread about “.” I thought Tyrion did a nice summary of aspects of claims to be considered.