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Gregory24
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Without even thinking about it I ate a sandwich w/ meat today. I feel terrible
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Didi
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Since it was not done on purpose, God knows your heart. Tell Him you feel badly and maybe give up meat another day, maybe tomorrow, or offer some other additional sacrifice today.
We all forget, slip up, stumble. Jesus is there ready to help you get up again!
We all forget, slip up, stumble. Jesus is there ready to help you get up again!
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Tietjen
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Gregory,
The conditions for a mortal sin are Knowledge, Free Will, Grave Matter. You did not realize it was a sin when you ate, therefore I don’t believe that your error would be considered a mortal sin. Perhaps you’ll offer up your mistake to Christ and make contrition.
Take care and God bless.
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Mt19_26
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If it truly was done by accident then I wouldn’t feel too terrible. We just forget sometimes. I’ve done it. Sometimes I’ve completely forgotten and only remembered later in the day. At other times I’ve remembered right in the middle of a meal and just stopped eating it and went and found something else.
I would have forgotten today if it wasn’t for your post.
I would have forgotten today if it wasn’t for your post.
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Pug
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Hey, if you’re anything like me, I have to plan ahead to not eat meat. That is, I have to warn myself on Thurs night that tomorrow I can’t have any meat. Then I warn myself again when I wake up Fri morning. Otherwise I tend to mindlessly eat something questionable and then realize it partway through the food. You know, it’s time for lunch and I rummage about in the fridge for whatever leftovers are there. Often the only thing will be cold pizza, which is “good” according to the Leftovers Rule, but is “bad” according to the Friday Abstinence. See, a recipe for disaster if I’m not thinking (very common).
It is serious if you keep on violating it for no reason, so if you are like me, you need to crack down on yourself. If it was just one time and not a problem you are prone to, then it is okay, and if it will make you feel better, skip the meat tomorrow. It is not a serious thing if you merely forget once in a blue moon.
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Brain
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sorry guys, BUT YOU WILL BE DAMNED TO BURN FOREVER!
just kidding. if you didnt mean it, dont worry about it.
just kidding. if you didnt mean it, dont worry about it.
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puzzleannie
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I continually had this problem until we decided to return to old discipline of abstinence every weekday of Lent, not that I forget to fast on Friday, but here in retirement land we forget when Friday is (except when they have fish fries at local restaurants). I nearly had a ham sandwich today, because I need to use it up. I made the sandwich, then wrapped and froze it to eat Sunday evening for a snack. Just got back from all-U-can eat fish at Best Western, we got there early, at least 100 people in line when we left, all Winter Texans. very good by 5,99 includes tea.
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Pug
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This is precisely the sort of devilish reasoning that we need to ban during lent. Of course, in any other season it is the decent thing to do. That poor uneaten ham.
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ktm
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It sounds like an accident, i.e., an unintentional act. Forget it and get on with life. Just be more careful next Friday.
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JKirkLVNV
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Pity’s sake, Pug, pick the meat off the pizza and proceed with the breakfast of champions!
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Pug
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:bowdown2
izza:bowdown2:Yeah, well, it still tastes like pepperoni. I have a sister who is convinced of that. I’m sure you know the type. I love her anyway, even if she hates real pizza.
Doesn’t seem right, enjoying my pepperoni on a Friday like that.
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sweetchuck
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Say a rosary or spend time in conversation with your Savior.
Hos. 6:6 For it is love that I desire, not sacrifice, and knowledge of God rather than holocausts.
Prov. 21:3 To do what is right and just is more acceptable to the LORD than sacrifice.
Matt. 9:13 [Jesus says] "Go and learn the meaning of the words, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice.’ "
Heb. 10:1-9, 13:15 Since the law has only a shadow of the good things to come, and not the very image of them, it can never make perfect those who come to worship by the same sacrifices that they offer continually each year. Otherwise, would not the sacrifices have ceased to be offered, since the worshipers, once cleansed, would no longer have had any consciousness of sins?But in those sacrifices there is only a yearly remembrance of sins, for it is impossible that the blood of bulls and goats take away sins. For this reason, when he came into the world, he said: "Sacrifice and offering you did not desire, but a body you prepared for me; holocausts and sin offerings you took no delight in. Then I said, ‘As is written of me in the scroll, Behold, I come to do your will, O God.’ " First he says, “Sacrifices and offerings, holocausts and sin offerings, you neither desired nor delighted in.” These are offered according to the law. Then he says, “Behold, I come to do your will.” He takes away the first to establish the second.
Through him (then) let us continually offer God a sacrifice of praise, that is, the fruit of lips that confess his name.
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jeffreedy789
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i think the mandate from the magesterium is regurgitation.
just kidding.
it’s good that you take your lenten observance seriously - seriously enough to be troubled by it, and seek wisdom here.
like it has been said, your actions were simply a mistake, certainly not a mortal sin.
maybe make yourself a note, or set an alarm (i have one on my phone that reminds me of things), or even pray that God will remind you not to eat meat on fridays.
for instance, last friday i totally forgot (maybe it was the friday before that). i was at the taco bell drivethrough, and i was trying to decide what to get. for some reason, a little nagging voice kept saying to get the 7 layer burrito. i thought, nah, i’ll get the burrito supreme. but the voice was persistent. so finally i got it. it’s meat-free.
i didn’t realize until i was almost home that it was friday, during lent, and i shouldn’t be eating meat.
or another time i was about to eat SOMETHING (i don’t remember what) with meat in it, and as i took the first bite, i remembered, so i just spit it out.
God reminds me of things like that. He doesn’t work the same way with everyone, but i don’t see that it would hurt to ask Him to help you remember.
just kidding.
it’s good that you take your lenten observance seriously - seriously enough to be troubled by it, and seek wisdom here.
like it has been said, your actions were simply a mistake, certainly not a mortal sin.
maybe make yourself a note, or set an alarm (i have one on my phone that reminds me of things), or even pray that God will remind you not to eat meat on fridays.
for instance, last friday i totally forgot (maybe it was the friday before that). i was at the taco bell drivethrough, and i was trying to decide what to get. for some reason, a little nagging voice kept saying to get the 7 layer burrito. i thought, nah, i’ll get the burrito supreme. but the voice was persistent. so finally i got it. it’s meat-free.
i didn’t realize until i was almost home that it was friday, during lent, and i shouldn’t be eating meat.
or another time i was about to eat SOMETHING (i don’t remember what) with meat in it, and as i took the first bite, i remembered, so i just spit it out.
God reminds me of things like that. He doesn’t work the same way with everyone, but i don’t see that it would hurt to ask Him to help you remember.
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m134e5
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I do not have a lot of money, and I don’t have a refrigerator that won’t be cleaned out by someone else (I have rude roommates). If I forget and get something that has meat in it, or I have leftovers, I have to eat them as soon as I can- Friday or not. I have to eat them then, or they get eaten by someone else or thrown away. Example: Thursday night I ordered a pizza- I had a lot of leftovers (which was unexpected). I wasn’t about to throw that away. Also, earlier in the day, I accidentally bought a couple of hamburgers. If I don’t eat, I get sick. I don’t have a lot of money left on my school account, so I ate them. I wasn’t doing it to rebel against God or the Church. I did it because it seemed more practical than throwing away perfectly good food, and buying new food that didn’t have meat in it.
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Tietjen
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Please know that I am not judging you. However, might I suggest licking any leftovers you have on Thursday night (in front of your roommates) before you place them in the fridge? They will probably still be there Saturday morning. Do what you have to to avoid eating meat on Friday. If your roommates still eat it, then think of it as a act of charity… they must have needed it more than you did.
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AServantofGod
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My husband was off this past Friday
which is a rare occurence. My puny brain, thinking it was Saturday, did not warn me not to make bacon along with the French toast 
. After about 15 minutes my husband inquired, “Isn’t today Friday?” The rest of us who had just piled on the bacon on our plate had to stop mid-bite. Our 6 year old then announced sincerely, “Lucky Dad, he already finished all ***his ***bacon.” :crying:We talked about eating meat intentionally and doing so out of carelesness the first of which is a sin & the second of which can be a sin if done consistently. We compared it to them hurting each other on purpose or several times a day out of carelesness (“Mom, it was just an accident”:tsktsk: ). Of course, Mommy committed the biggest sin because everybody else just trusts & eats; is this one of those instances where the person leading the little ones into sin gets tossed into the lake of fire?
***Point: ***God knows your heart & you know your intentions.
***Note: ***I had to remind my children that if throughout the day they found bacon stuck in their teeth or braces that they should just swallow it. Uh oh, another Hades visit for me.:bigyikes:
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Tietjen
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AServantofGod said:
On your Point: You did not realize it was Friday. You made bacon for your family without the Knowledge element and therefore it is not a mortal sin.
On your Note: You had Knowledge (knew it was Friday and that meat should not be eaten). You Freely decided to do the act knowing that it shouldn’t be done (telling your children to consume any meat found in their teeth/braces). Now the last element, Grave Matter; is consuming meat on a friday during Lent a Grave Matter? I will not judge you. I would confess it during confession. I would also explain to the children that it might not have been the best idea to consume the meat after it was discovered it was Friday.
God bless.
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