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Well actually I was aware that is was not an official part of the Mass but my Priest indicated that it was all right. In fact, I saw it done on a Mass broadcast on EWTN so I thought it was not a sin, just discouraged in some parishes. I won’t do it anymore if it is a sin, but if it isn’t, I don’t know why anyone would want to take away my weekly personal blessing. I look forward to my blessing since I am not yet in full communion with the church. I believe nearly everything the CC teaches and stands for and what I can’t accept on reason (birth control) I accept on faith.
But, the problem is that it was never anyone’s authority to give such a blessing. Now you say that someone is taking away your personal blessing. Nothing prevents you from approaching the priest after the Mass.

The fact that the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments has made five very solid observations, based on Canon Law and Liturgical Law, should be very clear.
  1. **The liturgical blessing of the Holy Mass is properly given to each and to all at the conclusion of the Mass, just a few moments subsequent to the distribution of Holy Communion. **
  1. Lay people, within the context of Holy Mass, are unable to confer blessings. These blessings, rather, are the competence of the priest (cf. Ecclesia de Mysterio, Notitiae 34 (15 Aug. 1997), art. 6, § 2; Canon 1169, § 2; and Roman Ritual De Benedictionibus (1985), n. 18).
  1. Furthermore, the laying on of a hand or hands — which has its own sacramental significance, inappropriate here — by those distributing Holy Communion, in substitution for its reception, is to be explicitly discouraged.
  1. The Apostolic Exhortation Familiaris Consortio n. 84, “forbids any pastor, for whatever reason to pretext even of a pastoral nature, to perform ceremonies of any kind for divorced people who remarry”. To be feared is that any form of blessing in substitution for communion would give the impression that the divorced and remarried have been returned, in some sense, to the status of Catholics in good standing.
  1. **In a similar way, for others who are not to be admitted to Holy Communion in accord with the norm of law, the Church’s discipline has already made clear that they should not approach Holy Communion nor receive a blessing. This would include non-Catholics **and those envisaged in can. 915 (i.e., those under the penalty of excommunication or interdict, and others who obstinately persist in manifest grave sin).
Please look at observations 1 and 5. Everyone is going to get a blessing. The fact that you are now making it something personal says to me that there is some misguidance going on here, not necessarily on your part, but, on the part of those in your parish who are promoting this.

The Congregation for Divine Worship and the Discipline of the Sacraments is the entity of the Holy See that acts in and with the authority of the Holy Father on every matter that concerns the Liturgy, the Mass, if you will. They do not issue these statements will-nilly. They do their work pastorally, taking into account folks who are in your situation. However, they also want to ensure that the proper catechesis is given so that situations like the one you are experiencing do not continue to fester and cause further confusion.

Remaining in your pew does not make you any less of a person than those who are receiving Holy Communion. In fact, as Catholics, we are not required to receive Holy Communion at every Mass we assist. I have refrained from receiving a few times. We are only required to receive Holy Communion as part of our Easter Duty (which runs from Ash Wednesday to Trinity Sunday). Spend this time in quiet prayer, asking Jesus to come spiritually in your heart while you prepare yourself for the time when you can actually go and receive Him.
 
The Vatican, whether you choose to admit this or not, has already given guidance on this issue and five solid reasons as to why a person should not approach the communion line to receive a blessing in lieu of Holy Communion. This is not the priest’s call to make, nor is it the bishop’s. The Holy See has made its statement. We need to read it and heed it.
Benedictgal:

What I think Texas Roofer was suggesting is that our OP, Digital Anarchy, talk to his pastor about Private Instruction. That’s how Catholics used to be taught the faith in the era before RCIA. That’s how Elizabeth Ann Seton, John Henry Cardinal Newman & Sr. Edith Stein learned the faith - If it’s good enough for them… And, His Parish Priest could also shorten the normal One-Year Process depending on how much of the Catholic Faith Digital Anarchy already knows.

Remember, most people who’ve decided to become Catholics have already done a fair amount of research about the Faith and already know more than most “Cradle Catholics”.

On this one, I concur with Texas Roofer, Digital Anarchy should talk to his parish priest. RCIA exists to serve the convert, not the other way around. and, As you said, his priest should bless him AFTER Mass, and the priest can’t do that if our OP doesn’t come up and ask.

Your Brother in Christ, Michael
 
Benedictgal:

What I think Texas Roofer was suggesting is that our OP, Digital Anarchy, talk to his pastor about Private Instruction. That’s how Catholics used to be taught the faith in the era before RCIA. That’s how Elizabeth Ann Seton, John Henry Cardinal Newman & Sr. Edith Stein learned the faith - If it’s good enough for them… And, His Parish Priest could also shorten the normal One-Year Process depending on how much of the Catholic Faith Digital Anarchy already knows.

Remember, most people who’ve decided to become Catholics have already done a fair amount of research about the Faith and already know more than most “Cradle Catholics”.

On this one, I concur with Texas Roofer, Digital Anarchy should talk to his parish priest. RCIA exists to serve the convert, not the other way around. and, As you said, his priest should bless him AFTER Mass, and the priest can’t do that if our OP doesn’t come up and ask.

Your Brother in Christ, Michael
However, Michael, a lot of the parishes do not know that this “blessing in lieu of receiving Holy Communion” should not be happening. Furthermore, as I indicated in my previous posts, information does not necessarily flow too smoothly from the top down. The CDWDS issues statements, but, very few people will read them, except for those who keep up with what is happening or do online research.

The bottom line is that these blessings should not be happening in the first place. I am certain that Venerable John Cardinal Newman did not engage in practices that were contrary to the liturgical norms of the Church, nor would he have wanted to do so.

What we are discussing here is the problem of folks coming forward and receiving a blessing in lieu of Holy Communion, something that the CDWDS clearly says should be “explicitly discouraged.”
 
Benedictgal:

First, you’ll get no argument from me that information doesn’t flow too well within the Catholic Church in any direction. I believe the “Blessing in lieu of Receiving the Holy Eucharist” was a holdover from the days when people didn’t receive the Holy Eucharist that often and younger children didn’t receive our Lord at all. Priests at the local Maronite Catholic Proto-Cathedral bless children with “The Mysteries” when they’re brought up by their parents, and this is part of the Maronite Catholic Tradition…

quote=benedictgal;6169429]However, Michael, a lot of the parishes do not know that this “blessing in lieu of receiving Holy Communion” should not be happening. Furthermore, as I indicated in my previous posts, information does not necessarily flow too smoothly from the top down. The CDWDS issues statements, but, very few people will read them, except for those who keep up with what is happening or do online research.

The bottom line is that these blessings should not be happening in the first place. I am certain that Venerable John Cardinal Newman did not engage in practices that were contrary to the liturgical norms of the Church, nor would he have wanted to do so.

What we are discussing here is the problem of folks coming forward and receiving a blessing in lieu of Holy Communion, something that the CDWDS clearly says should be “explicitly discouraged.”

…In this case, since RCIA wasn’t even going to begin until March, I was suggesting that our OP present himself to the priest as someone wishing to convert to the Catholic Faith and ask the priest if he could “get an early start”, and then ask for a blessing then…

I think you’ve made the Ruling on this matter quite obvious, and that the Vatican has allowed exceptions in order to keep people’s hearts (See Baltobetsy #20). My suspicion is that Digital Anarchy will wait until he CAN receive the Holy Eucharist before he goes forward to receive - That he won’t try the “Blessing Route”, because he understands how that will “cheapen” his acceptance into the Church and his reception of our Lord.

I hope that, with this, we can put this thread to bed.

Your Broter in Christ, Michael
 
Well actually I was aware that is was not an official part of the Mass but my Priest indicated that it was all right. In fact, I saw it done on a Mass broadcast on EWTN so I thought it was not a sin, just discouraged in some parishes. I won’t do it anymore if it is a sin, but if it isn’t, I don’t know why anyone would want to take away my weekly personal blessing. I look forward to my blessing since I am not yet in full communion with the church. I believe nearly everything the CC teaches and stands for and what I can’t accept on reason (birth control) I accept on faith.
In the right piece of film you can see the Pope give a blessing in the communion line. And if you actually read the letter it actually says:

*For the present, therefore, this Dicastery **wishes to limit itself ***to the following observations:

btw- the office was asked " 1. Is this a custom that is within the faculty of a pastor, the local Ordinary, or a Bishops’ Conference to establish?"

So when you are told it is not under the Ordinaries authority, well that was not from the response letter.

if you want to read the two letters - forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=4522747&postcount=1
 
Benedictgal:
First, you’ll get no argument from me that information doesn’t flow too well within the Catholic Church in any direction. I believe the “Blessing in lieu of Receiving the Holy Eucharist” was a holdover from the days when people didn’t receive the Holy Eucharist that often and younger children didn’t receive our Lord at all. Priests at the local Maronite Catholic Proto-Cathedral bless children with “The Mysteries” when they’re brought up by their parents, and this is part of the Maronite Catholic Tradition…
quote=benedictgal;6169429]However, Michael, a lot of the parishes do not know that this “blessing in lieu of receiving Holy Communion” should not be happening. Furthermore, as I indicated in my previous posts, information does not necessarily flow too smoothly from the top down. The CDWDS issues statements, but, very few people will read them, except for those who keep up with what is happening or do online research.

The bottom line is that these blessings should not be happening in the first place. I am certain that Venerable John Cardinal Newman did not engage in practices that were contrary to the liturgical norms of the Church, nor would he have wanted to do so.

What we are discussing here is the problem of folks coming forward and receiving a blessing in lieu of Holy Communion, something that the CDWDS clearly says should be “explicitly discouraged.”

…In this case, since RCIA wasn’t even going to begin until March, I was suggesting that our OP present himself to the priest as someone wishing to convert to the Catholic Faith and ask the priest if he could “get an early start”, and then ask for a blessing then…

I think you’ve made the Ruling on this matter quite obvious, and that the Vatican has allowed exceptions in order to keep people’s hearts (See Baltobetsy #20). My suspicion is that Digital Anarchy will wait until he CAN receive the Holy Eucharist before he goes forward to receive - That he won’t try the “Blessing Route”, because he understands how that will “cheapen” his acceptance into the Church and his reception of our Lord.

I hope that, with this, we can put this thread to bed.

Your Broter in Christ, Michael

However, with all due respect, the question posed in this thread is what what should one do during Commuion? Furthermore, we do not mix and match rites here. There is no indication in the Latin Rite, the Rite we are addressing here, that these blessings were a “holdover”.

Texas Roofer still refuses to acknowledge that the letter from the CDWDS, which is the prevailing authority over the bishops, states that these blessings in lieu of Holy Communion should not happen.

According to the GIRM, the local Ordinary does not have the competency to add something to the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. These are the only duties within his competency:
  1. The Diocesan Bishop, who is to be regarded as the high priest of his flock, and from whom the life in Christ of the faithful under his care in a certain sense derives and upon whom it depends,148 must promote, regulate, and be vigilant over the liturgical life in his diocese. It is to him that in this Instruction is entrusted the regulating of the discipline of concelebration (cf. above, nos. 202, 374) and the establishing of norms regarding the function of serving the priest at the altar (cf. above, no. 107), the distribution of Holy Communion under both kinds (cf. above, no. 283), and the construction and ordering of churches (cf. above, no. 291). With him lies responsibility above all for fostering the spirit of the Sacred Liturgy in the priests, deacons, and faithful.
This is all that he can do. He cannot add anything to the Mass, as in this case, a blessing in lieu of receiving Holy Communion. If the bishop were to want to add this, he would have to bring it up to the entire USCCB (in our case). A vote would have to be taken in order to make this adaptation to the GIRM. Furthermore, an affirmative vote of 2/3 of the majority of the Latin-Rite bishops would have to be made. But, it does end there. Once the necessary votes have been received, having reached the required threshhold, the proposal must still be submitted to the CDWDS. The CDWDS can either grant the recognitio or deny it.

Using the video of the Holy Father does not necessarily justify anything. The Holy Father is the Supreme lawmaker. He is the Holy See. It is within his purview and his alone to amend liturgical law when he celebrates Mass. No one else enjoys this privilege.

Thus, what Texas Roofer states in his previous posts is incorrect. The CDWDS already gives five solid reasons as to why these blessings should not be happening. As Catholics, we need to read them and heed them, and not cause further confusion by encouraging this sort of thing to continue.
 
The practice of giving blessings in the Communion line is very widespread in this country and has been going on for at least a couple of decades before Japhy’s letter was answered by the CDWDS. Even if a pastor or bishop now discourages the practice, there is still the matter of how does one handle the situation when one is approached by a non-Communicant in the Communion line. It is my belief that we should not be accusing good pastors and bishops of “being unfaithful to the Magesterium” in the event that they should bless someone in the Communion line. Nor should we be accusing posters of encouraging this practice simply because we show support for our pastors and bishops in dealing with this problem. And that is really what this dispute on these treads is all about.
 
Using the video of the Holy Father does not necessarily justify anything. The Holy Father is the Supreme lawmaker. He is the Holy See. It is within his purview and his alone to amend liturgical law when he celebrates Mass. No one else enjoys this privilege.
Can you point me to the authority of the Holy Father that gives him the power to, sui generis, change the liturgy? I’m not intending to be an antagonist, just curious.
 
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Texas Roofer still refuses to acknowledge that the letter from the CDWDS, which is the prevailing authority over the bishops, states that these blessings in lieu of Holy Communion should not happen. …

That is a false statement.
 
Can you point me to the authority of the Holy Father that gives him the power to, sui generis, change the liturgy? I’m not intending to be an antagonist, just curious.
Justin, the Holy Father is the ultimate rule-making authority in the Church. Granted, I understand that you seem to be adamant (as I read your posts) that you have a “right to a blessing” in lieu of receiving Holy Communion, that is not something that is within the purview of what the priest, let alone, the bishop can do.

According to Redemptionis Sacramentum:
[15.] The Roman Pontiff, “the Vicar of Christ and the Pastor of the universal Church on earth, by virtue of his supreme office enjoys full, immediate and universal ordinary power, which he may always freely exercise”,35 also by means of communication with the pastors and with the members of the flock.
Now, the bishop does enjoy some authority, but, it is not the “full, immediate and universal” kind that is reserved to the Roman Pontiff.
 
That is a false statement.
No, it is not. In your posts, you continue to promote the notion of recieving a blessing in lieu of Holy Communion. You say that the local ordinary can grant this when the documents of Rome state the contrary. He cannot, on his own, add things to the Mass. You also persist in maintaining support for something that should not be done.

You even used arguments from a website that wound up contradicting your premise.
 
Justin, the Holy Father is the ultimate rule-making authority in the Church. Granted, I understand that you seem to be adamant (as I read your posts) that you have a “right to a blessing” in lieu of receiving Holy Communion, that is not something that is within the purview of what the priest, let alone, the bishop can do.

According to Redemptionis Sacramentum:

Now, the bishop does enjoy some authority, but, it is not the “full, immediate and universal” kind that is reserved to the Roman Pontiff.
Ok. I will accept it on faith and stay in the pew Sunday. But, if I get hit by a bus without my blessing, I hope you all feel bad. 😃
 
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