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I have a dilemma and was hoping for some advice. I’m 17 years old, and have been Catholic my whole life (Catholic school, Church every Sunday) but only the last two or three years have I really sort of come into my faith, and not seen it as “just another part” of my life. I can’t believe how wonderful it is!

The dilemma? My best friend, “Kathy”. We’ve been best friends since kindergarten, went to the same Catholic school up through 8th grade, after which she went to public school and I went to a Catholic high school that is probably as close to a convent as one can get without taking any vows. Well, i think the term “lapsed Catholic” is what I’m looking for here. She hasn’t been to Mass except for the 2 times I got her to go with me in the past probably 4 years. Her parents split up a few years back as well. She still believes in God and Jesus and even the Rosary (well, she believes it’s legit, not that she really prays it) and although she has some issues with the “hot topics” that go along with Catholicism (gay marriage and things like that) she has shown genuine interest in learning why we believe what we do. she still identifies her self as Catholic when asked.

This girl is like my sister. I would give her anything, cash, kidney, first born son (note, i do not actually have a first born son, no fear 👍 ) Naturally, I want to share my faith with her. I want so much to help bring her back fully to the church.

I’ve been thinking about asking her to come to Good Friday Mass with me. It’s my favorite mass, and in my opinion, the most moving one in the Church calendar. The last two times I brought her to mass, (a random Sunday where we were doing something all day and i insisted on hitting an early mass first, and Christmas) I didn’t realize until too late that she shouldn’t receive the Eucharist. the second time, i remembered in time to whisper to her as we were kneeling that she shouldn’t receive because she hadn’t been to mass/confession in a while, but she went anyway. I honestly believe though, that it was because she didn’t fully understand why she shouldn’t, not because of any intended disrespect or spite. She’s not the type of person to do something like that.

I’m kind of at a loss as to what to do. Do I bring her (and try to bring her to future masses as well), knowing that she will take communion 😦 , or not try to get her to mass at all yet? Confession isn’t really an option yet, because i know she doesn’t see anything seriously wrong on her conscience, and i think she needs the graces from mass to start realizing it.

Does any one have suggestions? maybe even a good way to make her see that she shouldn’t receive communion without turning her off to coming to mass all together? and what should i do about Friday specifically? ask her or not?

There is a line from “St. John in exile” that i particularly like: “There’s more then one way to get a pagan to read the gospel”

Well, is there more then one way to get a lapsed friend back to mass?
 
I have a dilemma and was hoping for some advice. I’m 17 years old, and have been Catholic my whole life (Catholic school, Church every Sunday) but only the last two or three years have I really sort of come into my faith, and not seen it as “just another part” of my life. I can’t believe how wonderful it is!

The dilemma? My best friend, “Kathy”. We’ve been best friends since kindergarten, went to the same Catholic school up through 8th grade, after which she went to public school and I went to a Catholic high school that is probably as close to a convent as one can get without taking any vows. Well, i think the term “lapsed Catholic” is what I’m looking for here. She hasn’t been to Mass except for the 2 times I got her to go with me in the past probably 4 years. Her parents split up a few years back as well. She still believes in God and Jesus and even the Rosary (well, she believes it’s legit, not that she really prays it) and although she has some issues with the “hot topics” that go along with Catholicism (gay marriage and things like that) she has shown genuine interest in learning why we believe what we do. she still identifies her self as Catholic when asked.

This girl is like my sister. I would give her anything, cash, kidney, first born son (note, i do not actually have a first born son, no fear 👍 ) Naturally, I want to share my faith with her. I want so much to help bring her back fully to the church.

I’ve been thinking about asking her to come to Good Friday Mass with me. It’s my favorite mass, and in my opinion, the most moving one in the Church calendar. The last two times I brought her to mass, (a random Sunday where we were doing something all day and i insisted on hitting an early mass first, and Christmas) I didn’t realize until too late that she shouldn’t receive the Eucharist. the second time, i remembered in time to whisper to her as we were kneeling that she shouldn’t receive because she hadn’t been to mass/confession in a while, but she went anyway. I honestly believe though, that it was because she didn’t fully understand why she shouldn’t, not because of any intended disrespect or spite. She’s not the type of person to do something like that.

I’m kind of at a loss as to what to do. Do I bring her (and try to bring her to future masses as well), knowing that she will take communion 😦 , or not try to get her to mass at all yet? Confession isn’t really an option yet, because i know she doesn’t see anything seriously wrong on her conscience, and i think she needs the graces from mass to start realizing it.

Does any one have suggestions? maybe even a good way to make her see that she shouldn’t receive communion without turning her off to coming to mass all together? and what should i do about Friday specifically? ask her or not?

There is a line from “St. John in exile” that i particularly like: “There’s more then one way to get a pagan to read the gospel”

Well, is there more then one way to get a lapsed friend back to mass?
You should take her to Mass. But, as a heads up, what happens on Good Friday is not Mass. It’s a service/liturgy. It’s the one day of the year priests are forbidden from saying Mass.

That said, if you do take her to Mass/Good Friday Liturgy, emphasize how wrong it is to receive Communion. She may venerate the Crucifix on Good Friday, but receiving is out of the question.

If she’s “not the type of person to do that,” then hopefully as her friend you can help explain to her why it is wrong of her to do so.

Best wishes.
 
Thank you for your advice.
I’ve asked her to come with me on Good Friday, and she’s thinking about it. depending how that goes, im going to ask her to come to mass on Easter as well.
Prayers please!
 
Thank you for your advice.
I’ve asked her to come with me on Good Friday, and she’s thinking about it. depending how that goes, im going to ask her to come to mass on Easter as well.
Prayers please!
Well, how did it go? Did your friend accept the invitation?

One thought about confession. One does not need to have a mortal sin on one’s soul for confession to do some good. For example: every once in a while a table needs to be dusted or wiped clean. Not because it is a stick mess, but merely to keep things in order. Some people fear confession i.e. my high school students that I teach. Confession is a cleaning and brightening experience. Invite your friend to go with you to confession. Find a good examination of conscience, sit down with her and go over it as friends. Here are links to three:

beginningcatholic.com/catholic-examination-of-conscience.html
catholicparents.org/oxcart/examinationchild.html
theworkofgod.org/Library/examine.htm

God bless
 
well, she wasnt able to come last night, but she has agreed to take me to confession today. I told her (honestly) that I don’t like going alone. While i’m no longer afraid of going to confession itself, i still get pretty nervous before hand. She doesn’t know if she’ll actually go, but Im hoping that once she’s there…

EDIT: I just double checked the schedule for Confession, and they aren’t having it today 😦
so much for that plan 🤷
 
well, she wasnt able to come last night, but she has agreed to take me to confession today. I told her (honestly) that I don’t like going alone. While i’m no longer afraid of going to confession itself, i still get pretty nervous before hand. She doesn’t know if she’ll actually go, but Im hoping that once she’s there…

EDIT: I just double checked the schedule for Confession, and they aren’t having it today 😦
so much for that plan 🤷
Call the priest and explain the situation? Maybe he’s willing to block out 30 mins?
 
I had a similar problem with my brother. He used to go to Mass a few times a year and always received. I told him it was wrong, but he didn’t listen.
A few months and hundreds of prayers later 😃 , he decided to go to confession and confess his sins, including the receiving of the Eucharist in state of sin. He doesn’t do it anymore 🙂

You two are young, and if your friend is showing interest in Catholic faith in this time of strong anti-catholicism, I think she is already on the good way to receive all the truths of faith. Give it some time and do not stop inviting her to Mass. Just explain she shouldn’t receive. Not once, but ten times if necessary. You have to be firm, maybe she won’t listen at once, but she’ll come around eventually.
 
Hi,

You might want to visit the website www.Christianfamilyoutreach.com Christian Family Outreach. (It’s a Catholic site) They have several Free Inspirational Pamphlets, they will mail to you at no cost. If you’d like they even have an audio you can click on to listen to them read the pamphlet to you on line. This might be a good website full of information that you can share with your friend.

Also go visit www.catholic-soe.org website. It’s the Catholic Society of Evangelists. It’s got tons of Great information… like CD’s, Books, Booklets and nothing over $1.00 donation. Very easy to understand and interesting too.

If she is showing an interest I’d order All the free Pamphlets from the Christian Family Outreach.

From the www. catholic-soe.org website I’d order, “What Does Scriputre Say?” It’s a book that is 106 pages long. Full of interesting topics of what the Catholic Church believes…(even backs it up with Scriputre.) Topics like Confession, The Eucharist, Mary, Prayer, Salvation, Tradition and much more. It’s an easy read. It’s a great question and answer type book.

I will keep you and your friend in my prayers.
 
=Abby_Fletcher;5048925]I have a dilemma and was hoping for some advice. I’m 17 years old, and have been Catholic my whole life (Catholic school, Church every Sunday) but only the last two or three years have I really sort of come into my faith, and not seen it as “just another part” of my life. I can’t believe how wonderful it is!
The dilemma? My best friend, “Kathy”. We’ve been best friends since kindergarten, went to the same Catholic school up through 8th grade, after which she went to public school and I went to a Catholic high school that is probably as close to a convent as one can get without taking any vows. Well, i think the term “lapsed Catholic” is what I’m looking for here. She hasn’t been to Mass except for the 2 times I got her to go with me in the past probably 4 years. Her parents split up a few years back as well. She still believes in God and Jesus and even the Rosary (well, she believes it’s legit, not that she really prays it) and although she has some issues with the “hot topics” that go along with Catholicism (gay marriage and things like that) she has shown genuine interest in learning why we believe what we do. she still identifies her self as Catholic when asked.
This girl is like my sister. I would give her anything, cash, kidney, first born son (note, i do not actually have a first born son, no fear 👍 ) Naturally, I want to share my faith with her. I want so much to help bring her back fully to the church.
I’ve been thinking about asking her to come to Good Friday Mass with me. It’s my favorite mass, and in my opinion, the most moving one in the Church calendar. The last two times I brought her to mass, (a random Sunday where we were doing something all day and i insisted on hitting an early mass first, and Christmas) I didn’t realize until too late that she shouldn’t receive the Eucharist. the second time, i remembered in time to whisper to her as we were kneeling that she shouldn’t receive because she hadn’t been to mass/confession in a while, but she went anyway. I honestly believe though, that it was because she didn’t fully understand why she shouldn’t, not because of any intended disrespect or spite. She’s not the type of person to do something like that.
I’m kind of at a loss as to what to do. Do I bring her (and try to bring her to future masses as well), knowing that she will take communion 😦 , or not try to get her to mass at all yet? Confession isn’t really an option yet, because i know she doesn’t see anything seriously wrong on her conscience, and i think she needs the graces from mass to start realizing it.
Does any one have suggestions? maybe even a good way to make her see that she shouldn’t receive communion without turning her off to coming to mass all together? and what should i do about Friday specifically? ask her or not?
There is a line from “St. John in exile” that i particularly like: “There’s more then one way to get a pagan to read the gospel”
Well, is there more then one way to get a lapsed friend back to mass?
Dear Abby (I bet you get that alot:D)

First of all on behalf of your Church THANK YOU!

Be sure to say a prayer for mom and dad everyday!

It is a Official Catholic Teaching that one “may never force another to accept ones faith.”

So we’ll start from there.

Our God is an all-Loving and all-Powerful God. He is also a VERY personal God. I have seen time after time in my fauth sharing and teaching how God gets to the level everybody is at, and then nudges, pushes, pulls but always gently. Always respecting our intellect and freewills.

So don’t force. ONLY suggest. Your example, how you live, love and practice YOUR FAITH will be the main “bible” most people including your friend “will read.”

Invite but don’t nag! Suggest but don’t insist! BUT do live your life and Chrsit wants you to, and pray for your friend daily.

Do not be afraid to explain what we belief when it is opportune or necessary to do so. If you don’t know an answer to a question, DON"T pretend that you do. Simply say "I don’t know, its a good question, please let me get you the full answer. Then do it.

So in the case of your friend going to Holy Communion. You could share that one has to be in “the state of Grace” and a regular practicing Catholic, because God is Perfect Love, and only by being in the state of grace, (without any un- Confessed Mortal sins) do we show Jesus the Love and Respect He, as our God and our Christ, deserves.👍

This Forum is a GREAT resource for good information.

The BEST Gospel you can share is how you life your life in full conformity to all catholic Teachings! It will become increasingly difficult, but more meterious for you and for your friend.

God Bless you Abby! Your doing GREAT KIDDO! (I’m a grandpa!)
 
well, she wasnt able to come last night, but she has agreed to take me to confession today. I told her (honestly) that I don’t like going alone. While i’m no longer afraid of going to confession itself, i still get pretty nervous before hand. She doesn’t know if she’ll actually go, but Im hoping that once she’s there…

EDIT: I just double checked the schedule for Confession, and they aren’t having it today 😦
so much for that plan 🤷
Abby, not a lot I can offer, but keep doing what you’re doing. You probably have more influence over her then you think. Be very positive and maybe try explaining these Sacraments to her in a way that she will learn to appreciate them.

In the meantime, continue to try to bring her to Mass and the Sacraments and pray for her as we all will…Take Care…
 
thank you all for you advice. the links provided are great, i think they’ll be alot of help.

I do my best not to nag, because i do know how annoying it can be 😛 actually, during the political season, we came up with a system of discussing issues so we could civilly talk about things with no annoyed/hurt feelings. we’ve applied it to other issues in life as well, so that goes a long way in preventing nagging or destructive comments.

also, thank you for you encouragement. it helps more then you know. I will continue asking (but not nagging) her to come to Mass, and certainly explain to her about receiving communion. I also still plan to ask her to take me to confession again, and hope for the best. And of course, prayer. is it possible to wear out rosary beads? 😃
 
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