What was the original sin?

[Benadam]

I think I’m misunderstanding you because what I’m understanding you to say is that God created man alone and that threw the world into a state of evil… God created evil? It isn’t the result of man’s free will and rebellion, but that God created only man?

I’m sorry, Adam’s state of innocense prevented him from judgeing his experience of being human. To Adam the experience of being alone wasn’t an evil. It may have been a suffering. In Original Innocense Adam didn’t experience his loneliness as lacking good untill God revealed it to him. Those details in Genesis show us how an innocent heart doesn’t know evil.

 

[grannymh]

I’m sorry, Adam’s state of innocense prevented him from judgeing his experience of being human. To Adam the experience of being alone wasn’t an evil. It may have been a suffering. In Original Innocense Adam didn’t experience his loneliness as lacking good untill God revealed it to him. Those details in Genesis show us how an innocent heart doesn’t know evil.

The children who lived when the Grimes sisters were murdered knew evil. Innocent hearts should not be confused with dumbness.

If the adult Adam is considered dumb, would that be an attack on God’s gifts of intellect and will as functions of the spiritual soul?

 

[Benadam]

The children who lived when the Grimes sisters were murdered knew evil. Innocent hearts should not be confused with dumbness.

If the adult Adam is considered dumb, would that be an attack on God’s gifts of intellect and will as functions of the spiritual soul?

I agree with you. Adam had full knowledge. Arguing culpability is denying the original state of justice. Not to mention the preternatural powers.

 

[p_satay]

Benadam;8371003:

Jim, in Gen 2
And the Lord God said: It is not good for man to be alone:

The status quo, so to speak, had become evil.
**God revealed evil to Adam. **
(The tree in the middle. The serpent seems not to distinguish the tree he is living in from any of the other trees. Did God really say you couldn’t eat from *any *of the trees in the Garden?
Perhaps that’s the way things look from the tree in the middle.
We bit into and swallowed some tasty ego.)I think I’m misunderstanding you because what I’m understanding you to say is that God created man alone and that threw the world into a state of evil… God created evil? It isn’t the result of man’s free will and rebellion, but that God created only man?
(emphasis added)

Ps: ‘good’ and ‘evil’ are subjective terms: rain is ‘evil’ to the avid golfer but to the farmer, it might be ‘Godsend’.

But in the context of God, He can be ‘evil’ too although it is in the context that such ‘evil’ results in a greater overall ‘good’ of creation.

Admittedly, I’m bit new here and mightn’t understand everything Catholic but I do believe in free access to the Bible and Theological scholarship.

But I just kinda believe that God ALLOWS evil because he wants his creation to be overall “good” or in fact “very good” which by his original conceptualization, should permit a significant degree of free will (love). So to allow for the important responsible practice of free will, God allows some evil to occur.

In anycase, because God is very powerful “all powerful”, His creation allows the suffering from such ‘evil’ to be limited by e.g. death, unconsciousness, strong-will/ endurance etc so some suffering really doesn’t feel as bad as it looks.

That said, this shouldn’t decrease the efforts of the good Samaritan- whose actions are indeed commendable but ought to be reassured that should his best efforts fail, God is always waiting to carry on from there on.

Just my 2c.