What's your view on this Catholic woman converting to a Islam after marrying cricketer husband

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This story was on 60 minutes.
He’s 30 and she’s 22.I personally think that’s questionable in the first place because usually there’s a big difference in the brain development,life experience and decision making when someone’s 22 vs when someone’s 30…

Short story:He’s an Australian cricketer from Muslim Pakistani background.
She’s an Australian background Catholic but is now converted to Islam after marrying him.

I have nothing against Muslims,have Muslim friends,some people of my own background are Muslims etc so please note this is not anti Islam sentiment…
At the same time though,I do wonder why she “chose” to convert to Islam and he didn’t choose to convert to Catholic/Christian instead…

To be fair,she did state that neither her husband nor his family pressured her but that she did it because she knew it meant a lot to her husband.
Also,understandably all adults have free will to make whatever decisions they want about which religion they want to be (or be atheist etc).

On the other hand, I wonder is this a failure of the Catholic Church or parenting that she would be so easily willing to “denounce” Jesus or being Catholic Christian for romantic love of a man?
Her parents don’t seem to care at all and seem indifferent.
His parents have obviously instilled in him the value and importance of faith and Islam-maybe her parents didn’t do the same for her about Catholicism?

Or is this all somehow Gods/Holy Spirits plan?
Ie:God works in mysterious ways…

Im not sure how should I look at this?

 
This is just another example of Relativism at play in our world, where all religions are basically the same thing. And it’s an example of a lack of evangelization.

My Archbishop has a saying “Catechized but not Evangelized” … which describes many people today. They know what the Church teaches, but it doesn’t really matter because they are not properly evangelized.

Far too many people (esp youth) in our parishes are Catechized but not Evangelized - which often leads them to leave the faith when they hit a stumbling block.

God Bless
 
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I find it strange and even a bit disconcerting that the couple says that they wanted to tell their story so that it would break down religious and cultural barriers.
I agree that would have been right if he had of stayed Muslim and she had of stayed Catholic but in reality she “denounced” Catholic Christian to become a Muslim so how are they breaking down religious barriers when she in fact has changed her religion now?

I also wonder “where” is Jesus now (so to speak)?
Ie:they say they are both now Muslims but still “do Christmas celebration” -does that mean they just do the celebration/family tradition/presses part of Christmas?
 
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It simply shows she’s ignorant. And obviously she doesn’t care.

In Islam it’s allowable for a Muslim man to marry a Christian woman; but the opposite is forbidden (Christian man + Muslim woman).

Go to Youtube and search on “Muslim + convert.” You’ll find hundreds of videos by Christians who have converted to Islam (they’re encouraged to make videos, thus their presence on Youtube). I’ve never counted, but I suspect more than half are Catholic. Fidelma O’Leary, for example. A lot of them came from “pious” households where they said the rosary daily, etc. and some taught catechsim. There’s even an Irish Catholic priest who converted and now teaches about Islam at al-Azhar in Cairo.

There are also LOTS of Muslim videos on Youtube about converting, etc. and you will find Muslim rallies at large sports arenas where they trot out people who are converting at the end. If they are male, they get polite applause. If they are female–and 75% are–and young (most convert between 15-24) the crowd goes wild.

Other than David Wood (an Evangelical), there are no good videos on Youtube with an anti-Islamic point of view (I’m ignoring racist stuff–I’m talking about logical arguments). There is absolutely NO Catholic presence on Youtube to counter the Muslim propaganda.

The other way to look at this is that it has nothing to do with religion: it is the standard non-white athlete marries gorgeous white trophy wife phenomenon. And in case you’re wondering, it’s not white folks who object to this the most, it’s black women, who feel passed over (they’re right).
 
The age difference is fine. The problem is that this woman idolized her husband and it is simply that. She converted because of him, and obviously she did not take her faith seriously beforehand. If she did, she would not have converted.

You are right, OP, in saying that his woman had her free will. She converted by use of that such will. She is responsible for her own decision to convert to a false religion. Perhaps her parents did fail her, but that doesn’t matter. She made a free will choice. I hope she can still drive.
 
It makes me a bit confused 😐.
Is this all from the Holy Spirit somehow?

Can both these religions “be one” somehow?
Ie:both catholic and Muslim believe in faith,modesty,kindness,sin,forgiveness,charity,disagreement with gay marriage,sin,humility,helping others with compassion etc…
Is there anything that distinguishes one from the other?
The only think I can think of is belief in Jesus and trinity.

If Muslims can also be humble,love thy neighbor etc (like Jesus’ teachings) then is there any need for Jesus/believing in Jesus though?
 
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He seems like a nice guy and is not oppressing her in any way-but what about Jesus still?
 
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Im not sure how should I look at this?
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What is there not to be sure about? Objectively speaking, apostasy is among the very gravest of sins. We know nothing about this particular woman or any mitigating issues.
 
She wants what she wants and religion probably has nothing to do with it. If the guy was hindu, she would convert to Hindu if required. A lot of people have a superficial faith sometimes having no more substance than telling someone what football team you support.

But i don’t know her personally, so i can’t really judge. Maybe she experienced a genuine conversion.

I really liked a Muslim women once, but i just can’t imagine leaving my faith to become a Muslim just to be with someone. I will always be a Catholic in my heart.
 
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What sort of mitigating issues?
It seems to me likely that she was just raised by “loosely catholic” parents but maybe didn’t care much about religion (like many younger people) and her parents seem very non chalant about her becoming Muslim and not catholic.
 
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Interesting about the age of most conversions as well that’s clearly an age before people have had much life experience.
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That’s the age by which most people have made their most important life decisions. They’ve picked their career and gotten married. They may even be parent’s themselves by that age.

20 somethings are not naive infants.
 
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Most people here are Australia are not getting married at 20 or early 20’s.
According to the Australian Bureau of Statistics, in 2013 the median age at marriage was 31.5 years for men and 29.5 years for women.
They also don’t usually have children before 20’s/in their teens unless they come from a poor background and are “uneducated” and stuck in a cycle of “having babies while being babies” (like their parents often did too).

Speaking from experience,there’s a vast difference between my brain (and what I knew) at 30 vs what I did at 20.
Also,scientific studies have shown that some parts of the brain (the pre frontal lobe that controls informed decision making) does not stop developing until a person is in their early 20’s.
This doesn’t mean they are naive,but it does mean that they don’t always have the life experiences or full reasoning capacities to make informed decisions.

How else can it be explained that this girl made a religious decision based off the emotions of romantic love rather then from her truly genuinely believing that Islam was the truth?
She even said herself that she had never known any other Muslims prior to him.

Maybe you know some very mature early 20’s year olds but here they are usually the exception rather than the rule.



 
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are you making a point that people should not marry young? because the catholic church says we can get married as young as 14 and 16
 
Getting married later is a very recent cultural phenomenon.
We haven’t miraculously started maturing much slower in the span of 50 years.

Is your argument that we should move the age of adulthood up to maybe 29-30 yrs old?

If we accept teens converting to Christianity, we can’t blame people leaving the Christian tent on developmental issues.
 
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My view is that it was a traitorous thing for her to do and I hope that she has a good support network if she ever decides to return to her faith.
 
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