When is sarcasm sinful?

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Hello I recently read in the Catechism of Catholic Church that irony is a sin against truthfulness. Here’s the scenario a guy covertly threatens me for some reason saying “I know where you live” I found out a few days later that he didn’t actually know where I lived as he scrambled trying to explain himself to others saying: Hey I know where you live it’s just small talk didn’t I hear you lived at insert random adress? and I sarcastically replied “Yeah Wooow you must be psychic!” I don’t know it’s a bizarre situation. I know I’m nit picking but when does irony and sarcasm become a sin? I feel this relates to the passage to avoid bickering among yourselves. Thanks for reading

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Irony and sarcasm are two different things. Sarcasm is always mean spirited and is famously “the lowest form of wit.”

Im surprised the catechism describes irony as a sin. It’s a rhetorical device designed to draw attention to a truth. It is not intended to deceive.
 
I rarely use sarcasm and I don’t feel like I regret it in this situation. I think another mistake I made was detraction. Revealing the faults of someone to another person who was unaware of them. Am I supposed to just put up with covert threats or was it okay to tell someone?
 
After looking up the definitions I think i understand the difference now. I think what I said would be considered irony. I say one thing but mean the opposite. Where as sarcasm would be a mean remark. I’m thinking since I didn’t even know what irony was it wouldn’t be mortal because it requires full knowledge. Either way I’ll try to keep my emotions in check and be more careful about how I say things in the future.
 
You’re not expected to put up with covert threats. You have a right to protect yourself and your family.
 
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Okay that’s good to know. It wasn’t detraction because I had the valid reason of feeling threatened. Detraction would like if you found out someones sins that doesn’t effect you or someone else but you tell others anyway like gossiping.
 
jredden92 said:
Hello I recently read in the Catechism of Catholic Church that irony is a sin against truthfulness.
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You might want to go back and read that again. It does not say that irony is a sin; it speaks about how irony with intent to disparage someone by malicious caricaturing them is a sin.

In other words, how one uses irony can be a sin; but it is not s sin in itself.
 
Well I wasn’t using sarcasm to point out his flaws since the opposite of being psychic is just the same as everyone else and not really a flaw. I feel like I’m over analyzing this. If I had said to him “Wooow you’re a genius!” that would be mean spirited because the sarcasm implies that i think he’s an idiot.
 
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Also, I found one article about a related matter, with links to other articles:

 
Yes, you may be over analyzing it. If it is really bothering you, take it up in confession.

My answer was based on your generalization of irony. Not everyone will look up the matter, and we have people in these forums who have a tendency towards scrupulosity (and I am not suggesting that you do), so I answer both to you and to other readers who may not have researched the issue.

Whoever you were addressing seems a bit off center.
 
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Yes, you may be over analyzing it. If it is really bothering you, take it up in confession.

My answer was based on your generalization of irony. Not everyone will look up the matter, and we have people in these forums who have a tendency towards scrupulosity (and I am not suggesting that you do), so I answer both to you and to other readers who may not have researched the issue.

Whoever you were addressing
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I will bring this to confession. I felt scandalized but that shouldn’t be an excuse. Yes he seemed off center. Something I was doing must have rubbed him the wrong way for him to feel the need to resort to threats.
 
Are you sure he was actually being threatening? I can’t count the number of times I’ve jokingly used that exact phrase or had it used on me.
 
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I challenge you to give me a friendly example of sarcasm
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A joke between friends that both parties understand as a joke and laugh at. Or sarcasm that is self deprecating. Or aimed at something impersonal.

Really, there are like a million scenarios.
 
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CCC 2481 Boasting or bragging is an offense against truth. So is irony aimed at disparaging someone by maliciously caricaturing some aspect of his behavior.
 
If you were trying to be mean or bullying or put a person down, then whatever you said is sinful.

If the person is your friend or family and you were just having a joke or a normal conversation, don’t worry about it.
 
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Are you sure he was actually being threatening? I can’t count the number of times I’ve jokingly used that exact phrase or had it used on me.
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It was the way he said it that was creepy to me. You would have to be there to understand. Plus he waited for everyone to leave the room like he knew i wouldn’t take it as joke.
 
I was sarcastic s a teen and think It was a defense system…sometimes sarcasm can be funny! Not meant to hurt!
 
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