When is the pain too much? If ever

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Mostly I guess this is just a rambling post to help me sort through some feelings. If you would like to provide advice that’s fine though.

Almost 3 years ago, my husband and I became foster parents to a newborn preemie. Our intent was to adopt, and given the parent’s history, our expectation was that they would lose or relinquish their parental rights. For the first 5 months of the baby’s life, she had about an hour of contact with them once a week. The remainder was spent in our care. Her brother was being fostered by my cousin, who has adopted the children’s older brother.

After those 5 months, the parent’s court case got switched to a new type of court in our state which works to reunify children with their parents when their primary issue is addiction. At seven months, our foster baby and her brother were returned to their birth parents. A lot of that day is vivid in my mind, but one thing that stands out is that I had to write her mom a schedule, as she had never cared for the baby long enough to know when she ate and slept.

We had a lot of concerns at that time. I can’t say that we weren’t being selfish in some respects, as I really wanted to be a mom, especially to this child that I had bonded with. But the majority of our concerns were valid. Without violating the parent’s privacy here, let’s just say that they had a long history of addictive behaviors, domestic violence, and criminal activities. Each parent has several other children who are not in their care due to these issues. They both were sober at the time, and one had a part-time job. They found housing, and things seemed to be going ok for a while.

At the time the kids went back, my cousin opted not to have any ongoing contact with her foster son. Her reasons are sound and mostly relate to her adoptive son and issues surrounding his relationship with all 3 kids’ birthmom.

My husband and I made the other choice. We opened our hearts to the parents and explained how much we cared about our foster baby. We have seen her about every other month and on every holiday and birthday since then until recently when we were able to relocate back to our home town. Now we see both she and her brother every week or more often.

Recently, both birth parents have had some problems. I have seen no evidence of abuse, but have seen a lot of things that concern me. I don’t want to gossip but to briefly summarize, the parents are no longer living as a married couple though they are currently inhabiting a shared residence, and many of the previous issues have re-arisen. Her mom has been calling me a few times a week with emergency situations that warrant us bringing the kids to my mom’s house (we’re still trying to sell our other home) for overnights or even for a few days at a time.

Each time we see the children, it becomes harder for me to live with the pain of parting with them. They cry when we take them back to their mom and beg not to go. Both my husband and I speak very positively about their parents, telling them how much their mommy and daddy love them, and reinforcing every positive thing we can think of about their parents. A few weeks ago, my despair over their situation brought me to my knees (not in front of them), as when we went to return them to their mom she wasn’t there, didn’t answer her phone, wouldn’t respond to text messages, and they just lost it.

I keep sitting here thinking that my cousin made the right choice. That she no longer has this pain. And yet, I look at that baby’s face (she’s now 32 months) and know that I vowed to her and myself to love her forever on the day we brought her home from the hospital. My husband and I are one of the only constants the kids have in their lives, and also one of the only good role models they have. Their day care teachers always tell me that the kids have been asking for us all day long, and the baby’s brother in particular seems to thrive on my husband’s attention.

I guess the question is, am I doing the right thing?
 
My heart aches for you!!!

Just my two cents, but I would say you’re doing the absolute right thing. For one, you are giving these children a positive role model of what parents SHOULD be. They obviously do not get that with their bio parents. You never know what kind of seed you’re planting that will possibly break this cycle that so often repeats itself. Secondly, if what you think is happening is true, it could be that these children will be removed again from the home and you could have the option of adopting one of not both of these kids. By being in contact with them, I would think that it would make the transition much less stressful for these babies.

That being said, I know that this has to tear your heart out.
 
And yet, I look at that baby’s face (she’s now 32 months) and know that I vowed to her and myself to love her forever on the day we brought her home from the hospital. My husband and I are one of the only constants the kids have in their lives, and also one of the only good role models they have. Their day care teachers always tell me that the kids have been asking for us all day long, and the baby’s brother in particular seems to thrive on my husband’s attention.

I guess the question is, am I doing the right thing?
Oh my Chovy, I’m so sorry for this pain you live with, it breaks my heart to read this story. 😦

But this paragraph here says it all. You love these children, and they love you. You are their only anchor in their lives to normalcy. They need you horribly, even if the crummy system won’t allow them to be with you all the time.

To say that this is a cross to bear sounds trite and cliche. But I think this is the best way to look at this situation. Your suffering is for the salvation of these children. In their futures you may have been the only thing they have had to hold on to that keeps them going.

Did your sister make the better choice? No - she made a different choice. The one that was right for her, and that she could endure and live with. I’m sure that she has her difficult times as well. But you made the choice YOU needed to make for you and your family. And yes, these children are part of your family, circumstances not withstanding.

I will surely pray for all of you. I’m far beyond my years of yearning for a child after accepting my infertility, but I still know how much pain there is there, and I’m sure this is only that much more worse to have actual little lives tied up with all of that as well.

God bless you - you are their hope, don’t forget that.

~Liza
 
My heart goes out to you, how horrible it must be to see the children you want to nurture have to be somewhere else where they are not being nurtured.

I would keep a journal. Every time the mom dumps the kids off on you. Every time she is not there when its time to bring them back. Keep track of dates, times. What kind of condition are they in when she drops them off to you? Do they have adaquate clothing, have they had a decent meal? Have they been bathed? How is their general hygiene?

You may need this information at some point. You are the advocate for these kids. You may never get them back, but you can darn well make sure they have as good a life as possible.

Then make some noise if you have to. I’m sure they have some type of social worker or counselor or someone who is overseeing their progress. Get to know that person. Keep in touch, Let them know that you are involved in these kids’ lives, and how often you are being relied upon. With the system as overloaded as it is, unless there has been an actual abuse reported, it could be that no one knows that the situation is deteriorating. Even if the kids don’t get taken away, at least maybe the family can get some support services to make the kids’ lives a little better.

You absolutely are doing the right thing. Sometimes love is sacrificial. Dying to our own needs and desires for the sake of someone else’s good is the highest form of love. God will reward you for this.

God bless you and those babies.
 
Dear Chovy, do these children have a caseworker? I am a former child welfare caseworker, and I agree with you that this situation is not in the best interest of the children. The caseworker should be listening to your experiences with the children’s parents if for no other reason than he or she could be held responsible if something bad happens. You do not have to bare this responsibility alone.
 
Ann,

God Bless you for loving the children, despite the pain.

Remember what Jesus told us, "And the King will answer them, ‘Truly, I say to you, as you did it to one of the least of these my brethren, you did it to me.’ Mt 25:40.

You are caring for Jesus himself through these beautiful children!!!

Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, Ora Pro Nobis Peccatoribus!

Mark
 
You are definitely doing the right thing by these children. You and your husband sound like the only constant they have in their lives, and bless their mother for allowing you to be part of it. For that in itself is a blessing, she may not realize it on a conscious level, but she is doing a good thing by them. Looking at how you have described her and the kids response at daycare when you drop them off. I think about what she must feel like when she gets her kids back from a weekend with you and they are asking for you, it must make her feel sub par and could potentially drive her further into addiction.

What is your relationship with the mom? It would be tricky, but if you have not already said so, ask Mom how she’s doing and empathize with her current condition, and see if she would appreciate you taking the children for a few weeks to allow her time to get her head on straight. I would think that her not being available for the agreed drop off times says a lot about what she is going through right now. I would suggest that if you have not done so already, that you attempt a friendship with her. She sounds like she really needs some stability in her life as well. Mind you I’m not saying have her move in, but perhaps take her and the kids out together, so she can see some normalcy in her life and what a good thing it could be.

This may be absolutely crazy as I do not know her and she may be more loony than I am, in that case, forget every thing I said prior and only take away the following:

My heart cries out for these children. As stated before, be sure to keep records of the visits and any issues.
 
Thank for the advice about keeping a record. Although we kept detailed records when we were foster parents, I have not done so since the baby went back. This is a really good idea.

I wish that they still had a caseworker, in which case something could be done. At this time, I have not noted anything that would rise to the level of reportability. The children’s grandmother has called the state, specifically the former case worker, and was told that “This is what meth addicts do… they relapse.” We need to get settled and get our foster care license reinstated here so that if something does happen, the children may come to us. Our state’s HHS dept. really does not put the needs of the children first. I could provide some very specific examples but please note that if I saw anything reportable, I will report it, and I have told their birth mom that (not as a threat but as a notice. “If I ever saw any child being abused, I would do what had to be done and report it to HHS.”)

We would absolutely offer to take the children for a few weeks. Right now we are living with my 75 year old mother and paying her rent until we can sell our home in Ohio and buy or rent something here, and I do dislike relying on my fastidious mother’s hospitality for a 2 and 3 year old. Our plan is to offer a few things (including tuition at a Catholic school) and college funding once the children are older (and provided our own financial situation can afford it) and rooms at our home once we have one again.

As far as my relationship with the mother, I have really put forth an effort to be supportive and a good role model. Sometimes the situation makes it difficult for me to feel friendly, but for Lent this year I have made a concerted effort to pray the Rosary for the baby’s mom and for women who have had abortions, and to be especially kind towards their mother. It’s amazing how much more caring I feel now that I have been praying for her on a more regular basis! She does consider me a friend and seems to be listening when I provide advice. She calls us the children’s Godparents 🙂 and in many ways I think we are their closest link to God. The little boy has even started saying grace before meals and a nighttime prayer along with the sign of the cross with our guidance.
 
That’s got to just be the hardest thing ever 😦 .
Thank you so much for opening your home to this poor child for as long as you did, many people would be too afraid of the pain your going through now to risk loving a child who needs it more than anyone.
I’m not a child psycologist by any means, but I feel that if you are the one the child bonded with as a baby and you have continued to be consistent in being present in his or her life, than you are most certainly doing the right thing.
Stay strong, my thoughts and prayers will be with you.
 
Oh Chovy 😦 I don’t have any advice, but I hear you, and I am praying for you. You have such a big heart.
 
Would she be amenable to reversing the custody knowing you would give her liberal visitation and her kids would be safe?

You are doing not only the right thing, but the saintly thing. You may make the difference between life and death someday.
 
Thanks so much again, everyone. I would doubt that she would be agreeable to giving us custody as she has a lot of pain over her past decisions to relinquish parental rights and is dissatisfied with the outcome of that decision.

It’s funny because achieving the title of “mommy” doesn’t matter to me any more, and that used to be my only goal.

Any prayers anyone can spare for this situation are appreciated. These two kids are such special people!
 
It’s funny because achieving the title of “mommy” doesn’t matter to me any more, and that used to be my only goal.
Amazing how God can move us from selfish to selfless in the beat of a tiny heart. 🙂

~Liza
 
My prayers that your house sells and you get settled into a new home. Also, for the mother to see your strengths and model them as her own for the benefit of her children.
 
Wow! Your prayers work quickly, though perhaps not in the direction I might have expected. Out of the blue, my cousin contacted me this week to see if the kid’s mom would permit their family to see the kids with us in attendance. Their mom cried tears of joy when I asked her. This is a major change of heart and chance for healing on many fronts. We are all moving slowly and with the help of professionals, but I think the kids will soon have another set of caring people in their lives! God really is working on many fronts to protect these two special little people.
 
That is so wonderful Ann!!! So happy to hear things are turning around for all of you!!

God bless!!

~Liza
 
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