When you are Attacked as a Catholic

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It’s important to recognize whether the people who attack you intend to argue in good faith. There are people who have no wish (nor even see) the point of doing apologetics for their own side. There are those who will accuse you of emotional appeals on the one hand and obfuscating what should be gut obvious with nuances and distinctions on the other. There are those who will wave away your arguments as being religious drivel even if you never appeal to God or the Church. There are those who will call you a misogynist fascist with absolute moral certainty, but when you point out they’re ethical nihilists they won’t respond or even deny that in their own ethical worldview one ethics is superior than the other and who won’t even agree with you when directly asked (after insulting you as a fascist) that fascism is intrinsically wrong. They ignore you when you point out their “practical” ethical standards lead to them being inconsistent across their beliefs.

Yeah, I had some bad experience recently. And the whole time while they throw insults and don’t engage in arguments they’re convince they’re winning.

So… just be aware.
 
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Please remember that some people are in a spiritual prison and can’t see their way out.
Never stop offering intercession for others.
And stay off the social media and opinion pages.
 
While I enjoy talking about religion, I don’t like debating about it. I just like to have conversations. I’ve had people try and get very apologetic and in my face and that’s when I’ll back off and let them know that they really don’t have to get aggressive. I admit I don’t have all the answers. I admit I may be hypocritical. I admit I can’t prove something or other.

It usually works very well. I try my best to listen to what they are saying…even repeating it back to make sure I understood. This tends to be very reciprocal. They stop arguing and start listening. A true conversation was had.

If tensions rise, it’s time to stop. Their ears are now closed or mine are. Thank them for the discussion and walk away. I think some people just get too defensive or argumentative too quickly and it’s pointless from that moment on. Sometimes you have to just let someone be wrong. And yes, that’s hard to do. I’ve had so many great discussions though that it’s always worth a try!
 
Pattylt said:
While I enjoy talking about religion, I don’t like debating about it. I just like to have conversations.
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This is exactly how I feel. I know at least one atheist who I can have great religious conversations with because they’re just that, friendly conversations. Now for all I know, he goes home and tells his partner that I’m crazy as a loon and I drive him up a tree with my God talk, but he doesn’t say it to my face, nor does he debate me. He genuinely seems interested to know how a religious Jesus believer thinks. (He lives and works in an area where I suspect he meets very few of them and certainly not from USA.)

I think apologetics are fine for when someone has an actual question for which they’re genuinely trying to arrive at an answer in good faith. If it’s just a matter of debating “who’s right” and the other person is not going to back off their view, I don’t see any point to arguing. It’s not going to change anything and it’s a waste of energy. What is needed to change those people’s minds are faith, and the Holy Spirit moving them to change.
 
Don’t argue with Protestants about doctrine and theology. Just don’t.
 
Wesrock said:
There are those who will wave away your arguments as being religious drivel even if you never appeal to God or the Church.
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This!

This drives me mad. I recently got into a debate about abortion on Facebook, and no fewer than three separate people accused me of forcing my religion or only having religious excuses when I hadn’t referenced religion a single time.

It’s maddening and absurd.
 
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Now for all I know, he goes home and tells his partner that I’m crazy as a loon and I drive him up a tree with my God talk, but he doesn’t say it to my face,
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I doubt he does…at least I never feel that way. I just try to understand how and why someone believes what they do an I fully accept that faith and the Holy Spirit must be involved somehow as I don’t have that faith or HS that guides me. So something had to be different between a believer and non believer.

I know many people of both faith and atheism that don’t understand my interest. I just find it fascinating!
 
I can relate to your experience. We have to pray for discernment, for some people are instruments of the devil to try and make us stumble by their arguing.
 
In fact, everyone who wants to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted.

[2 Timothy 3:12]
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Jesus said we would be persecuted for following him. We need to pray that we will be strong in our faith. If they persecute us for living in the truth then we are on the right path. We should be joyful about that.
 
Blessed are you when men hate you because of me…be glad and rejoice.
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