Where can I get help ~ conversion?

[Rocks_91]

I didn’t find a specific forum section for this, so don’t know what’s the best area to post this in. But I want help in becoming a Catholic immediately. I did write before about how the priests at my church behaved in an abusive manner towards me, denying me conversion because they didn’t like my personality, in common words, they probably found me to be an annoying prick. I haven’t done anything criminal, maybe it’s just my manner of talking, which confounds me because I try my best to be mild-mannered in dealings with strangers. Since these incidence, I’m being burned up with a severe rage since years towards Catholic people. There was this girl wearing a headband I saw once, and I now have hateful thoughts that people like the choirboy, people like the new Pope, probably lust after her and she in return. Irrational, I know, but the incidence of the priests denying me conversion is making me hate all Catholics. I suffer from a severe grief disorder and rage disorder that causes me mental instability, which is partly involved in this. But I’m quite capable of making choices and my mother has no objections in my becoming a Catholic. It’s only the priests at church who are blocking my path, because they don’t like my personality.

I love Jesus wholeheartedly and it gives me grief that I can’t be receiving him in communion. I’m also currently in compliance with my psychiatric treatment. How can I force the priests to let me partake in the sacraments and conversion? There must be someone higher up who can help me. I contacted the archdiocese and they gave no reply, maybe they are do-nothings who just eat meat and relax all day. I want to convert on my own terms. Jesus doesn’t force mentally ill people. I was fine and loved going to church every daily mass and all, but now because of the behaviour of these priests, I feel afraid and uncomfortable to go to church. I want to convert and take lessons at home, where I’m safe with my family, not alone with bad priests. I also do not want to be among people like that girl who is all beautiful and all, but because people tell me sexual attraction is a good and healthy appetite, I will not be among them. They can exercise their sexual appetite among themselves. I want to be with Jesus only. I hope someone can advise, I’m on the verge of tears.

 

[PaulfromIowa]

You need to find someone, perhaps a Christian doctor, priest, or religious; who has experience with treatment of mental illness who can advocate for you.

 

[Linusthe2nd]

I didn’t find a specific forum section for this, so don’t know what’s the best area to post this in. But I want help in becoming a Catholic immediately. I did write before about how the priests at my church behaved in an abusive manner towards me, denying me conversion because they didn’t like my personality, in common words, they probably found me to be an annoying prick. I haven’t done anything criminal, maybe it’s just my manner of talking, which confounds me because I try my best to be mild-mannered in dealings with strangers. Since these incidence, I’m being burned up with a severe rage since years towards Catholic people. There was this girl wearing a headband I saw once, and I now have hateful thoughts that people like the choirboy, people like the new Pope, probably lust after her and she in return. Irrational, I know, but the incidence of the priests denying me conversion is making me hate all Catholics. I suffer from a severe grief disorder and rage disorder that causes me mental instability, which is partly involved in this. But I’m quite capable of making choices and my mother has no objections in my becoming a Catholic. It’s only the priests at church who are blocking my path, because they don’t like my personality.

I love Jesus wholeheartedly and it gives me grief that I can’t be receiving him in communion. I’m also currently in compliance with my psychiatric treatment. How can I force the priests to let me partake in the sacraments and conversion? There must be someone higher up who can help me. I contacted the archdiocese and they gave no reply, maybe they are do-nothings who just eat meat and relax all day. I want to convert on my own terms. Jesus doesn’t force mentally ill people. I was fine and loved going to church every daily mass and all, but now because of the behaviour of these priests, I feel afraid and uncomfortable to go to church. I want to convert and take lessons at home, where I’m safe with my family, not alone with bad priests. I also do not want to be among people like that girl who is all beautiful and all, but because people tell me sexual attraction is a good and healthy appetite, I will not be among them. They can exercise their sexual appetite among themselves. I want to be with Jesus only. I hope someone can advise, I’m on the verge of tears.

You realize you are asking us to choose between your veracity and the action of this priest? We are not qualified to do that. I would suggest that you get some psychological help dealing with your uncontrollable feelings. Hatered is never good, we cannot claim to love God, Jesus, if we hate anyone. And you are engaging in a lot of rash judgment. How do you know what other people ( the Pope, etc ) are thinking about anyone? I think you must have conveyed your unjust thoughts to this priest some how. I think you are going to have to amend your life in some major ways before this priest will consider you a candidate to become Catholic. Catholics of course are sinners the same as anyone else but we don’t come into the Church with bags of hatered, nor with sins we aren’t truly sorry for. And we must always be striving to be better each day. The same would apply to you.

Have you read the Catechism? Why not do that prayerfully and just rest a bit?

Linus2nd

 

[tawny]

You realize you are asking us to choose between your veracity and the action of this priest? We are not qualified to do that. I would suggest that you get some psychological help dealing with your uncontrollable feelings. Hatered is never good, we cannot claim to love God, Jesus, if we hate anyone. And you are engaging in a lot of rash judgment. How do you know what other people ( the Pope, etc ) are thinking about anyone? I think you must have conveyed your unjust thoughts to this priest some how. I think you are going to have to amend your life in some major ways before this priest will consider you a candidate to become Catholic. Catholics of course are sinners the same as anyone else but we don’t come into the Church with bags of hatered, nor with sins we aren’t truly sorry for. And we must always be striving to be better each day. The same would apply to you.

Have you read the Catechism? Why not do that prayerfully and just rest a bit?

Linus2nd

Well stated.

 

[808Catholic]

I didn’t find a specific forum section for this, so don’t know what’s the best area to post this in. But I want help in becoming a Catholic immediately. I did write before about how the priests at my church behaved in an abusive manner towards me, denying me conversion because they didn’t like my personality, in common words, they probably found me to be an annoying prick. I haven’t done anything criminal, maybe it’s just my manner of talking, which confounds me because I try my best to be mild-mannered in dealings with strangers. Since these incidence, I’m being burned up with a severe rage since years towards Catholic people. There was this girl wearing a headband I saw once, and I now have hateful thoughts that people like the choirboy, people like the new Pope, probably lust after her and she in return. Irrational, I know, but the incidence of the priests denying me conversion is making me hate all Catholics. I suffer from a severe grief disorder and rage disorder that causes me mental instability, which is partly involved in this. But I’m quite capable of making choices and my mother has no objections in my becoming a Catholic. It’s only the priests at church who are blocking my path, because they don’t like my personality.

I love Jesus wholeheartedly and it gives me grief that I can’t be receiving him in communion. I’m also currently in compliance with my psychiatric treatment. How can I force the priests to let me partake in the sacraments and conversion? There must be someone higher up who can help me. I contacted the archdiocese and they gave no reply, maybe they are do-nothings who just eat meat and relax all day. I want to convert on my own terms. Jesus doesn’t force mentally ill people. I was fine and loved going to church every daily mass and all, but now because of the behaviour of these priests, I feel afraid and uncomfortable to go to church. I want to convert and take lessons at home, where I’m safe with my family, not alone with bad priests. I also do not want to be among people like that girl who is all beautiful and all, but because people tell me sexual attraction is a good and healthy appetite, I will not be among them. They can exercise their sexual appetite among themselves. I want to be with Jesus only. I hope someone can advise, I’m on the verge of tears.

There may be reasons why your parish priests are deliberating your petition to become a Catholic. I don’t know the reasons and I wouldn’t be so bold as to second guess their reasons or authority. One of the ways Catholics are unique in the galaxy of Christian denominations is our patience and obedience. Although the Catholic Church is over 2,000 years old, we are thoughtful and deliberate in our decisions and actions. I pray that God grants you more patience and that you can find it in yourself to submit to God’s Will and His Time. In the end, God knows better than any and all of us so trust in Him. God Bless you.

 

[Rocks_91]

You realize you are asking us to choose between your veracity and the action of this priest? We are not qualified to do that. I would suggest that you get some psychological help dealing with your uncontrollable feelings. Hatered is never good, we cannot claim to love God, Jesus, if we hate anyone. And you are engaging in a lot of rash judgment. How do you know what other people ( the Pope, etc ) are thinking about anyone? I think you must have conveyed your unjust thoughts to this priest some how. I think you are going to have to amend your life in some major ways before this priest will consider you a candidate to become Catholic. Catholics of course are sinners the same as anyone else but we don’t come into the Church with bags of hatered, nor with sins we aren’t truly sorry for. And we must always be striving to be better each day. The same would apply to you.

**Have you read the Catechism? Why not do that prayerfully and just rest a bit? **

Linus2nd

I’m not asking you to judge the truth of what I write, and if you thought so, then my question is who is responsible and qualified, so I can go to that person, someone higher-up as I said? What use is a Pope who lives in a separate state and not walk among the common people? It sounds like you are saying that people as opposed to God have the right to consider who is eligible to be a Catholic and who is not. Mentally ill people do not need God, right?

I will not read the Catechism. If anyone pushes me aside as a candidate for the reason that I’m ill or I have an unloveable personality, then their laws can’t apply to me either. I don’t need doctrine to understand what it means to love Jesus Christ. He himself said that I was hungry but you gave me no food. The people of the Crusades travelled a very long distance, losing all their wealth and their families to bloodshed, to help their brothers in need. From the tone of your post, I detect no Christian love here.

 

[ccmcmg]

I’m not asking you to judge the truth of what I write, and if you thought so, then my question is who is responsible and qualified, so I can go to that person, someone higher-up as I said? What use is a Pope who lives in a separate state and not walk among the common people? It sounds like you are saying that people as opposed to God have the right to consider who is eligible to be a Catholic and who is not. Mentally ill people do not need God, right?

I will not read the Catechism. If anyone pushes me aside as a candidate for the reason that I’m ill or I have an unloveable personality, then their laws can’t apply to me either. I don’t need doctrine to understand what it means to love Jesus Christ. He himself said that I was hungry but you gave me no food. The people of the Crusades travelled a very long distance, losing all their wealth and their families to bloodshed, to help their brothers in need. From the tone of your post, I detect no Christian love here.

In the meantime, perhaps you can examine why you want to become Catholic; what about the Faith is calling out to you, and what your disagreements are with Her.

Why won’t you read the Catechism? I am not saying you need doctrine to love Jesus Christ bbhn/bow, but in order to be Catholic, one must understand the teaching of the Church, of the Faith. You MUST know what you are getting yourself into, what you are agreeing to, what the Church professes as Her Faith, and as a Catholic, what you are professing.

Our Pope has to live somewhere. The Catholic Church is the world over, not in any one country. He does walk among the people, probably more than his handlers would like.

I sense great frustration and anger within you. You can be frustrated, but not angry or hateful, towards the Faith. I know I must be missing the back story behind what you say is abuse by the priests because of your personality, but there are steps that must be taken. This is not to protect the Church. This is to help and protect you, the potential Catholic, and the Faith.

God bless you.

 

[Dennis_III]

If you are seeking Salvation; you do not need a priest, or attendance in a religious organization. What you need to do first is read the Word of God. In the Bible you will learn about the laws of God. You will also find out that you’ve broken many of His laws. You must then confess your guilt and repent of your sins directly to the Lord. Only the Lord Jesus Christ can absolve you of your sins. The Lord is the ultimate authority.

“Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” (John 14:6)

“For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;” (1 Timothy 2:5)

We are brethren. Brethren do not usurp authority over each other. We have only one Master and one Father. And we don’t give those flattering titles to our brethren.

“But be not ye called Rabbi: for one is your Master, even Christ; and all ye are brethren. - And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your Father, which is in heaven. - Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.” (Matthew 23:8-10)

"Let me not, I pray you, accept any man’s person, neither let me give flattering titles unto man. (Job 32:21)

Christ paid the once and for all Sacrifice. There is no more offering for Sin. No “communion” needed.

“By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all. - And every priest standeth daily ministering and offering oftentimes the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins: - But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God; - From henceforth expecting till his enemies be made his footstool. - For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified. - Whereof the Holy Ghost also is a witness to us: for after that he had said before, - This is the covenant that I will make with them after those days, saith the Lord, I will put my laws into their hearts, and in their minds will I write them; - And their sins and iniquities will I remember no more. - Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.” (Hebrews 10:10-18)

You do not need to attend a special building,

“God that made the world and all things therein, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, dwelleth not in temples made with hands; - Neither is worshipped with men’s hands, as though he needed any thing, seeing he giveth to all life, and breath, and all things; - And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation; - That they should seek the Lord, if haply they might feel after him, and find him, though he be not far from every one of us:” (Acts 17:24-27)

“God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.” (John 4:24)

You do not need to repeat special prayers over and over. This does nothing.

“But when ye pray, use not vain repetitions, as the heathen do: for they think that they shall be heard for their much speaking.” (Matthew 6:7)

I pray that you learn the Truth of God’s Word, repent of your sins to the Lord, and live in faith through Jesus Christ. Have patience. If you need more information. Please feel free to message me. I am happy to help.

 

[esieffe]

Believe me there were several rainy, cold Sunday mornings when I just wanted to stay under the covers * but that is just they way it is done, and it has been done that way for quite a long time.

I don’t regret a minute of it either. There are many important rites that you must attend before first communion that are mandatory to attend. The end results are worth it. You end up with a community of dedicated people who are almost sure to play an active part in the church and know exactly what is expected of them to live as and call themselves Catholic.

It is not easy to become a Catholic and it is not always easy to LIVE as a Catholic, but the rewards are endless. In my church near the end of the process, you are interviewed and they go over why you want to be Catholic and ask if you agree with the church and her teachings.

Right or wrong, there are no home courses. If you are confined to a wheelchair, you must attend classes. There are always people around to help, and to talk to.

I am just going to tell you right here and now, with the very best of intentions meant towards you and for you that there are no shortcuts, rubber stamps, or customer service desks you can pound your fists on to get through. But isn’t anything, really, really, worthwhile worth the effort? It is not just about the end result, because the end result is all about the journey. If you were some how able to sidestep the journey the rest of us converts took, it would not be the same when you took your first sip from the silver cup of God.

Best wishes,
esieffe*

 

[esieffe]

. Catholics of course are sinners the same as anyone else but we don’t come into the Church with bags of hatred, nor with sins we aren’t truly sorry for. And we must always be striving to be better each day. The same would apply to you.

Have you read the Catechism? Why not do that prayerfully and just rest a bit?

Linus2nd

 

[ynotzap]

You can always try the direct approach to Jesus. Open your mind and heart the best you can and make your desire known. Ask Jesus to heal you body and soul and to embrace you, He loves all that He created. Ask Him to remove all anti-Christ from you and give you His Spirit of Peace and healing. He came for people like you and me, we are all sinners, but He died for us while we were still in sin. When He cried “Father why have you abandoned me!” He thought of all the souls that would not take advantage of His saving, redemptive sacrifice, this hurt Him the most because He loved all that He created. Don’t hurt Him and let Him know you want Him and to redeem your situation. He can do anything and will not refuse your sincere wish. Don’t hate, this is the devil influencing you, you can not hate anyone and say you love God. I’ll pray for you and your healing and so will others. Read Holy Scriptures as advised, it is the word of God,it will enlighten and guide you.
Conversion is turning from sin and turning to Jesus. No priest can convert you only Christ.

 

[WilT]

You need to find someone, perhaps a Christian doctor, priest, or religious; who has experience with treatment of mental illness who can advocate for you.

 

[WilT]

You realize you are asking us to choose between your veracity and the action of this priest? We are not qualified to do that. I would suggest that you get some psychological help dealing with your uncontrollable feelings. Hatered is never good, we cannot claim to love God, Jesus, if we hate anyone. And you are engaging in a lot of rash judgment. How do you know what other people ( the Pope, etc ) are thinking about anyone?

 

[fred_conty]

I truely sorry you are having so much difficulty. But any parish priest must have some reassurance that those who they baptise will be able to carry out their baptismal promises. And it isn’t just for the person being baptised but also the example they will give to others. For it seems to me more people are driven away from the church by bad example than by doctrine.

So my suggestion would be to seek help with your problem, and when it seems that this is being addressed and under better control, then I feel sure this would make the difference in your receiving instruction in the faith. And in the meantime, there is nothing to prevent you from praying for God’s mercy and love.

May God bless and keep you. May God’s face shine on you. May God be kind to you and give you peace.

 

[janiruchan]

I didn’t find a specific forum section for this, so don’t know what’s the best area to post this in. But I want help in becoming a Catholic immediately. I did write before about how the priests at my church behaved in an abusive manner towards me, denying me conversion because they didn’t like my personality, in common words, they probably found me to be an annoying prick. I haven’t done anything criminal, maybe it’s just my manner of talking, which confounds me because I try my best to be mild-mannered in dealings with strangers. Since these incidence, I’m being burned up with a severe rage since years towards Catholic people. There was this girl wearing a headband I saw once, and I now have hateful thoughts that people like the choirboy, people like the new Pope, probably lust after her and she in return. Irrational, I know, but the incidence of the priests denying me conversion is making me hate all Catholics. I suffer from a severe grief disorder and rage disorder that causes me mental instability, which is partly involved in this. But I’m quite capable of making choices and my mother has no objections in my becoming a Catholic. It’s only the priests at church who are blocking my path, because they don’t like my personality.

I love Jesus wholeheartedly and it gives me grief that I can’t be receiving him in communion. I’m also currently in compliance with my psychiatric treatment. How can I force the priests to let me partake in the sacraments and conversion? There must be someone higher up who can help me. I contacted the archdiocese and they gave no reply, maybe they are do-nothings who just eat meat and relax all day. I want to convert on my own terms. Jesus doesn’t force mentally ill people. I was fine and loved going to church every daily mass and all, but now because of the behaviour of these priests, I feel afraid and uncomfortable to go to church. I want to convert and take lessons at home, where I’m safe with my family, not alone with bad priests. I also do not want to be among people like that girl who is all beautiful and all, but because people tell me sexual attraction is a good and healthy appetite, I will not be among them. They can exercise their sexual appetite among themselves. I want to be with Jesus only. I hope someone can advise, I’m on the verge of tears.

I believe if Pope Francis would hear you…he will apologize…and I apologize as well, in behalf of the Christians who may have disappointed and hurt you. I also ask for forgiveness…I am glad that you love Jesus and the sacraments…I cant wait for you to be a Catholic—I mean to receive Jesus in His sacraments and to be one with His people.

I ask that you forgive…start there…forgiveness…you know if God really wanted you to be Catholic, it would be easy for Him to do that and intervene…but perhaps there is some part of you that needs to be worked on (especially your attitude towards this rejection—it’s not Christ like). Remember the Christians have always been persecuted. Jesus was rejected Himself, but this was not his attitude. On the contrary, he responded with love…So I hope you ask this grace from Jesus to change your attitude…to turn your hate into love, your rejections into acceptance…

I believe if you pass this test, you will receive so much more than you asked for. Your desire will lead you there…I see you want Him…so persevere! If only Catholics realized how precious the sacraments are like you do…see you have Jesus now even if you’re not yet fully immersed into the Church.

 

[Rocks_91]

I believe if Pope Francis would hear you…he will apologize…and I apologize as well, in behalf of the Christians who may have disappointed and hurt you. I also ask for forgiveness…I am glad that you love Jesus and the sacraments…I cant wait for you to be a Catholic—I mean to receive Jesus in His sacraments and to be one with His people.

I ask that you forgive…start there…forgiveness…you know if God really wanted you to be Catholic, it would be easy for Him to do that and intervene…but perhaps there is some part of you that needs to be worked on (especially your attitude towards this rejection—it’s not Christ like). Remember the Christians have always been persecuted. Jesus was rejected Himself, but this was not his attitude. On the contrary, he responded with love…So I hope you ask this grace from Jesus to change your attitude…to turn your hate into love, your rejections into acceptance…

I believe if you pass this test, you will receive so much more than you asked for. Your desire will lead you there…I see you want Him…so persevere! If only Catholics realized how precious the sacraments are like you do…see you have Jesus now even if you’re not yet fully immersed into the Church.

Thank you! I accept the Christian people’s apology. People cannot always be as you would have. But I don’t really see a way out of this conversion issue. I feel ignored. If priests don’t like you, and the diocese takes no notice of your petition, what can you do to convert? Being ill, it is not really possible for me to travel to a far-away parish and take lessons there. So it’s not an apology I’m seeking really, but somehow a miracle that someone with a good heart can help me become a Catholic. I guess I shouldn’t really have posted here as it’s not something that an online forum can help with. But I feel so frustrated with this issue. Sorry.

 

[janiruchan]

Thank you! I accept the Christian people’s apology. People cannot always be as you would have. But I don’t really see a way out of this conversion issue. I feel ignored. If priests don’t like you, and the diocese takes no notice of your petition, what can you do to convert? Being ill, it is not really possible for me to travel to a far-away parish and take lessons there. So it’s not an apology I’m seeking really, but somehow a miracle that someone with a good heart can help me become a Catholic. I guess I shouldn’t really have posted here as it’s not something that an online forum can help with. But I feel so frustrated with this issue. Sorry.

Well…you seem to have an option to go to another parish…but you have to take the extra mile… since your own parish wont approve of it. Ofcourse pray a lot.