Where could one go to become a very conservative diocesan priest?

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I reword the question. Where could one go to become a very conservative diocesan priest?
 
Let me reword this. Where could one go to become a very conservative diocesan priest?
 
As (name removed by moderator) said, diocesan priests do not belong to religious orders. Some dioceses (or more specifically, some bishops) are more conservative than others. The problem with trying to choose a diocese based on the bishop is that bishops either move around, retire, or die, so in time there will be someone else in his place.
 
With the rewording of the OP – I think what he is asking about – is a very conservative seminary.
 
If you wish to consider the diocesan (secular) priesthood, you should contact your diocese’s office of formation. If they determine you are a candidate for the seminary, they, not you, will decide where to send you.

All diocesan priests are expected to say the ordinary form of the Mass – in the U.S., that would be in English.

God bless!
 
AnnArbor said:
If you wish to consider the diocesan (secular) priesthood, you should contact your diocese’s office of formation. If they determine you are a candidate for the seminary, they, not you, will decide where to send you.

All diocesan priests are expected to say the ordinary form of the Mass – in the U.S., that would be in English.

God bless!
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I am willing to move to be in a conservative diocesan before joining. I don’t want to be in a Liberal seminary.
 
I have heard that the Diocese of Lincoln Nebraska is conservative. As an earlier poster has
stated, I don’t know if you are allowed to choose where you want to go.
 
The FSSP looks like a great conservative religious order.
 
jaimeleglise said:
I have heard that the Diocese of Lincoln Nebraska is conservative. As an earlier poster has
stated, I don’t know if you are allowed to choose where you want to go.
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I don’t think you can chose but nothing would stop you from moving to a conservative diocese before joining.
 
trad_1 said:
Yes a very conservative seminary that says Mass in English.
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I think you need to define for us what you are considering conservative vs liberal. Those terms in it of themselves are not religious terms but political ones. Instead of using the term conservative do you mean orthodox or true to the Catholic magisterium and teaching and practice? I think from reading your question and answers to others here that you are making lines in the sand or have a rather narrow view of what is or isn’t “conservative” or “liberal”. I think you first should drop these things and focus on if you are called to the priesthood, work with a spiritual director and then focus on what seminar would be best for you.
 
AnnArbor said:
All diocesan priests are expected to say the ordinary form of the Mass – in the U.S., that would be in English.
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To be fair many parishes in the US have Mass in multiple languages every week. The whole of the Ordinary Form could be said in Latin and still be perfectly acceptable for a US diocesan priest. Just because the OF Mass is *allowed *to be in the vernacular does not mean it has to be.
 
robwar said:
I think you need to define for us what you are considering conservative vs liberal. Those terms in it of themselves are not religious terms but political ones. Instead of using the term conservative do you mean orthodox or true to the Catholic magisterium and teaching and practice? I think from reading your question and answers to others here that you are making lines in the sand or have a rather narrow view of what is or isn’t “conservative” or “liberal”. I think you first should drop these things and focus on if you are called to the priesthood, work with a spiritual director and then focus on what seminar would be best for you.
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Very true. I also know several priest that went to less traditional seminaries that are still fairly traditional in their approach.
 
By definition, though, a man desiring to be a conservative priest would go wherever his bishop sends him to.

Since the placement of seminarians is a right and prerogative of the bishop, a conservative should respect and embrace it.

Yes, the seminary might be somewhat less than desirable, but that should not impact what kind of priest you want to be.

If anything, penitential suffering is a traditional value too 😉
 
If by “conservative” you mean “orthodox” (small “o”)/faithful to the Magisterium, you might consider the Diocese of Pittsburgh. More seminarians every year, and they are very good and I think show a lot of promise to be good and holy priests. I also know of one seminarian there who is not from Pittsburgh originally who came from a diocese often considered to be more “liberal.” There is also at least one seminarian who came from a Latin Mass community parish.

Edit: After seeing SuscipeMeDomine’s post below, I should clarify that the seminarian from another diocese did not move there first, but was able to directly apply to the Pittsburgh seminary while residing in his home diocese. I am not sure how common this is, but it would be something to look into. The OP might not “have to” move at all.
 
Annie39 said:
You might want to research Phoenix, AZ.
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I don’t know where the OP lives, but I hope he would give great thought to the idea of moving to Nebraska, Arizona, or anyplace else. Leaving family and friends behind to move cross country because you like the bishop of that place is fine. But what happens when there is a new bishop and you are possibly dissatisfied with changes that arise? It’s not like you can decide to move on someplace else. In the meantime you’re living in a new(ish) place without the support network you might have in your home diocese.

I hope the OP will contact his own diocese and check things out. His local vocation director would seem like the most reasonable place to start.
 
Usige said:
To be fair many parishes in the US have Mass in multiple languages every week. The whole of the Ordinary Form could be said in Latin and still be perfectly acceptable for a US diocesan priest. Just because the OF Mass is *allowed *to be in the vernacular does not mean it has to be.
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Yes, but someone studying for the diocesan priesthood in a U.S. seminary will be taught to say the ordinary form of the Mass in English. They may also learn it in Latin, but they will be expected to be able to say Mass in the vernacular.
 
SuscipeMeDomine said:
I don’t know where the OP lives, but I hope he would give great thought to the idea of moving to Nebraska, Arizona, or anyplace else. Leaving family and friends behind to move cross country because you like the bishop of that place is fine. But what happens when there is a new bishop and you are possibly dissatisfied with changes that arise? It’s not like you can decide to move on someplace else. In the meantime you’re living in a new(ish) place without the support network you might have in your home diocese.

I hope the OP will contact his own diocese and check things out. His local vocation director would seem like the most reasonable place to start.
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This. The climate of a diocese changes with its bishop. I would not move simply because I liked the bishop – he may not be there for long.
 
I understand everyone trying to “correct” and “clarify” his question. We do need to learn how to say these things better. But come 'on, we know what he’s meaning. This is in the “traditional” section. These clarifications would be better asked if he had posted in the “vocations” section.

As for the original post, I’ve been dealing with this for a lot of years now. Since at least 2005. Looking back I’ve wasted a lot of years. I kept trying to go to the so called “traditional” orders, ones that just said the EF Mass and ones that said both. But in the back of my head I knew I was called to discern with a certain diocese but I kept refusing it because it’s not as “traditional” as I want it. Now I’m entering seminary for this diocese and I’m finally at peace, a peace I’ve never had because I kept fighting. The priest that keeps helping me, and has all the past years (he is a diocesan priest here), said for me to keep quiet, go where they tell me to, pray at all times, learn what they want me to learn. Then you’ll be a priest and you’ll know what they want you know and can do as you’d like.
 
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