Where did Jesus shed His blood?

[Fiat]

Dear Brothers and Sisters:

A fundamentalist asked me whether Christ shed his blood for the first time on the Cross at Calvary or at the Last Supper. I honestly did not know how to answer the question. Clearly, the Church teaches that the Sacrament of the Eucharist was instituted at the Last Supper and that the sacrament truly is the Body and Blood of Our Lord. This seems to suggest that in fact Christ’s blood was shed for the first time at the Last Supper. Yet, is this truly what the Church teaches? I have heard Catholic apologists state that Christ shed His blood for the first time on the Cross and because the Cross stands outside of time, it relates back to the past as well as looks forward to the future. It seems to me as though the Catholic explanation hinges on the understanding that the Cross is, in fact, outside of time. I’m having a difficult time explaining this concept to my fundamentalist friend. Can anyone help me out?
In Jesus and Mary

Fiat

 

[metal1633]

Fiat:

Dear Brothers and Sisters:

A fundamentalist asked me whether Christ shed his blood for the first time on the Cross at Calvary or at the Last Supper. I honestly did not know how to answer the question. Clearly, the Church teaches that the Sacrament of the Eucharist was instituted at the Last Supper and that the sacrament truly is the Body and Blood of Our Lord. This seems to suggest that in fact Christ’s blood was shed for the first time at the Last Supper. Yet, is this truly what the Church teaches? I have heard Catholic apologists state that Christ shed His blood for the first time on the Cross and because the Cross stands outside of time, it relates back to the past as well as looks forward to the future. It seems to me as though the Catholic explanation hinges on the understanding that the Cross is, in fact, outside of time. I’m having a difficult time explaining this concept to my fundamentalist friend. Can anyone help me out?
In Jesus and Mary

Fiat

Jesus is the “Lamb slain from the foundations of the world”.His blood is shed from all eternity.

 

[Malachi4U]

The Body and Blood of Christ were in the last supper. His blood was shed for us on the cross. The mass is a remembrance of His sacrafice for us(continuing since it is timeless - not another sacrifice just the same one). There was no shedding of blood at the last supper but rather a sharing ‘of’ His Blood.

There is no conflict in Catholic teaching, just an attempt at confussion by a fundamentalist.

 

[Joe_Kelley]

I think His Bood was first shed at His Circumcision.

That’s why we used to celebrate that as a Feast.

 

[mercygate]

Joe Kelley:

I think His Bood was first shed at His Circumcision.

That’s why we used to celebrate that as a Feast.

Indeed. Blood of the old Covenant.

 

[Huiou_Theou]

Joe Kelley:

I think His Bood was first shed at His Circumcision.

That’s why we used to celebrate that as a Feast.

Yes , but here’s a thought also.
It is at the circumcision that the name Jesus is actually given to him corporially. Jesus means God Saves, and he did it through the shedding of blood. Lk 2:21
I would also point out that Jesus would have had an umbilical cord, with HIS blood in it. However, the virgin Mary’s giving birth did not violate her virginity, and hence the umbilical cord is likely not an issue.

 

[puzzleannie]

The Paschal Mystery, the event we commemorate each year as the Easter Triddum and celebrate continually in every Mass throughout the world is ONE saving event, the Last Supper, agony, suffering, death and resurrection of the Lord, where His Body and Blood were sacrificed for us to save us from sin and death.

 

[Huiou_Theou]

Jesus is the “Lamb slain from the foundations of the world”.His blood is shed from all eternity.

From eternity is kind of hard to grasp, for eternity is not a ‘when’.
When his blood is shed, is from the cross. The cross stands in history, at a particular year, day, hour …
The Eucharist is also celebrated in time, but has a joining to the resurected Jesus in eternity. The Eucharist is the body, blood, soul and divinty of Jesus. I am thinking that the blood in christ, in eternety, is also that which was shed, for Jesus entered heaven with his own blood.
Perhaps the lamb slain might just be a reference to the sacraficial nature of creation. We are held in existence by God, such that he must always keep us in his mind. Should he forget we would cease to exist.

 

[JimG]

Jesus shed His blood on the Cross.

At the Last Supper, that event, yet to happen in time, was made present to the Apostles, as it is made present to us today.

The Eucharist takes this unique historical event and makes it present at all times and in all places where the Eucharist is celebrated—including the Last Supper.