Where do you start if you wanna be a logician?or learn reasoning `_`

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Please forgive the idiomatic pseudo-word of “wanna” in the title please 😃 but the idea excites me enough to wanna say it in a way that’s closer to my idiolect

Okay for the schlack given to how “useless” philosophy is this is one of those rare examples (like linguistics) of stuff that dates back to ancient philosophy that can’t be readily disparaged and this time there’s a defination mathematical basis to not “diss it”;logic.

There’s been two big developed schools of Western philosophy^1 Post-Neitzche that I’ve heard of which took me a few years to find out about.On mainland Europe is the big on cultural studies,critical theory and consciousness school of “continental philosophy” and throughout the Anglosphere is analytic philosophy which is big on language and reason.Hence the emphasis on logic,with it’s methodicalness making it important in math,jurisprudence,language,cognitive sci and obviously developing computer related stuff.

To my mixed feelings one of the first ppl who come to mind when I think of modern logic is Bertrand Russel^3 and Karl Popper.As far Western^4 logic goes you can go back to pre-Platonic stuff like Pythagoras…

u you know it’s just so interesting how for all my passing familarity with the history of philosophy I’ve ignored this branch of it b/c of the rigid vibe I get from it and how it’s suppose to be intuitive.I know that if I would like a more Christian feel to logic their’s Anselm of Canterbury and (can only non-Catholics study him b/c he got excommunicated - ?) William of Ockham

… but ‘_’ honestly where do you start when you want to be learning about logic?.Would it be that far apart/exclusive from learning about reasoning?.

^1 Though I’m not to sure if there going to be “discontinued” anytime soon as I once heard that lately human and environmental rights are the “biggest thing” lately ‘~’

^2 I actually used to think that Neitzche sorta made things go “kaput” and existentialism with Satre and such was only a continuing derivative of what was left from the late 1800’s

^3…’~’ hmm…now who else does that remind me of who recently is an assertively firm atheist,says there’s a scientific basis to what he thinks of religions,British and has been called a figure of a contemporary wave of atheism (minus the info spreading of the internet) .Dx cough Richard Dawkins cough

^4 You know how it sometimes hard for ppl for readily talk about Eastern philosophy b/c it’s so deeply interconnected with regional religions.Well believe it or not despite all the stuff that comes to our minds about those religions like an epistemology big on pheneomology,experience,perception and deontology all based on mental stuff…except logic and reason :rolleyes:

WELL LOOKY HERE 👍 !

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_logic

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_logic

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhist_logic

and if you still want a Abrahamic twang to things

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logic_in_Islamic_philosophy
 
Pick up a logic textbook. If you think in a slightly mathematical way, formal logic should not be too difficult.

Other than that, reading philosophers in the analytic tradition is helpful to see how logic is applied in arguments.
 
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