Where does goodness and badness derive from?

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(First off, I know the theological explanation, so I would like to focus on the natural philosophic angle)

What makes certain actions good or bad? Where does this goodness or badness derive from? Is it intrinisic to the action itself? Or is it a result of the effect of that action?

Any opinions?
 
I think it’s the effect of the action - if it hurts you or someone else for no good reason or is dishonest. For example, killing in self-defense is done for a good reason.
 
From the movie, “Caddyshack”.

Judge Smailes: "What do you stand for, Danny? Goodness…or Badness?

Sorry, couldn’t resist. 😉
 
(First off, I know the theological explanation, so I would like to focus on the natural philosophic angle)

What makes certain actions good or bad? Where does this goodness or badness derive from? Is it intrinisic to the action itself? Or is it a result of the effect of that action?

Any opinions?
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morality derives from the nature of creation, created things, creatures, especially of course of people. Created things must–and all science supports this–work according to their nature. the law of gravity applies on earth, so if you jump from a tall building, you will go splat.

It is the nature of individual organisms and species to work toward filling intrinsic needs, the most basic of which is survival (as evolutionists love to point out), so anything that militates agains survival of the organism or species is inherently evil, although there are situations where individuals will sacrifice themselves under some conditions to insure survival of the species.

the 10 commandments describe the proper workings of natural law among individuals and communities, and it is no accident that they had to be engraved in stone at the time in history when organized functional families and wider communities based on them had become the basis for civilization and hence, survival, and had, through this same course of social organization, been disobeyed on such a mammoth scale.

Immorality derives both from the nature of the action and the actor, and its results, perceived, short term and long term. It takes a more highly evolved individual and society to conceive real evil, evil that can have global effects.

The propensity to choose evil over good is the product of original sin, the lack of complete sense and vision that we inherit from our first parents.
 
(First off, I know the theological explanation, so I would like to focus on the natural philosophic angle)

What makes certain actions good or bad? Where does this goodness or badness derive from? Is it intrinisic to the action itself? Or is it a result of the effect of that action?

Any opinions?
Because there is law.

Andy
 
(First off, I know the theological explanation, so I would like to focus on the natural philosophic angle)

What makes certain actions good or bad? Where does this goodness or badness derive from? Is it intriisic to the action itself? Or is it a result of the effect of that action?

Any opinions?
If I understand the question correctly I would say that if you removed any theological explanation { which may be impossible, considering that God is control of everything} . There is such a thing as the natural law…in other words we know that we should not steal from another or hurt or kill another because we know how such actions would effect us and how it would make us feel if we experienced the same. So we do good and expect good from others because it is in our nature. I assume if you are my friend you will not harm me and will be an ally in times of difficulty and I will do the same…The way of humans…👍 .
 
I think it’s the effect of the action - if it hurts you or someone else for no good reason or is dishonest. For example, killing in self-defense is done for a good reason.
But this just pushes the question back a step. What is a “good” reason? That presupposes that we must already have a conception of the good, in order to decide what might be a “good” reason for doing what would not otherwise be good.

Saying that “good” is what does not hurt is a negative definition and not very helpful, in my opinion.

Edwin
 
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