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valentino
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Your soul stays right where its at.Just like when you go to sleep at night.Although you farther under when you go into surgery.
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jochoa
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I hope recovery is as quick and painless as possible.This immediately worried me because shouldn’t she have some consciousness at all times??? If she does have a soul, where did it go during the hour or so she was under? Please understand, I’m not an atheist, but merely a hopeful nonbeliever. If I could find the answers to these questions, it would relieve a great amount of fear. Thank you!
Here are a couple of concepts I encourage you to deeply consider regarding your questions:
- What is the Soul? I personally like the definition: An Immaterial Essence. This is my understanding: It could be referred to as the Being or the Nature. This Exact Essence of one can be found in the Mind, Body, and Interactions with other Beings.
Therefore, during the surgery, your mom’s soul, could have been many different places. It was definitely in her body and in the minds of those who prayed for her or reminisced about interactions with her. - As you live life striving to find peace, happiness, and energy, keep in mind that, “Being patient and kind for God, according to Scripture as Jesus did, through the Church” reveals the best method:
When you want peace, learn patience. When you want happiness, learn kindness. When you want energy, be motivated by God, who is inexhaustible and fully considerate of the self, others, authority, and material. When you want knowledge, learn the Bible. When you want a role model, follow Jesus. When you want understanding and practice, learn the Church.
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TheHolyTrinity
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I am sorry to hear about the loss of your sibling.
When a person has general surgery, anaesthetic medication is used to inhibit the nerve transmission of the sensory, motor and sympathetic nerves between the brain and the body. General anaesthesia results in the person becoming unconscious and not feeling pain.
So the aim of general anaesthetic is to produce the following effects on the body:
There are reports of general anaesthesia awareness where the patient has not been given enough anaesthetic. There are two types of awareness when this occurs, where the patient will respond to commands and have no recall of those events. The other is where a patient can recall events of the operation but not respond to commands. Occurrences of this has been well documented and described by researchers and patients.
There is also many accounts of patients who have survived a near-death experience while under general surgery. Where patients have recorded accurately who, what was in the room, what was said, what was done etc. Many report floating around in the operating room and watching the doctors performing the operation or working hard to revive their body.
These events are memorable and significant to the experiencer, and may be proof to you that the soul does exist.
Have a look at this website where people write about their near death experiences - not all related to surgery - nderf.org/NDERF_NDEs.htm
near-death.com/evidence.html#a2
Hope this is of some help to you.
When a person has general surgery, anaesthetic medication is used to inhibit the nerve transmission of the sensory, motor and sympathetic nerves between the brain and the body. General anaesthesia results in the person becoming unconscious and not feeling pain.
So the aim of general anaesthetic is to produce the following effects on the body:
- Loss of response to pain
- Amnesia: loss of memory
- Immobility: loss of motor reflexes
- Hypnosis: loss of consciousness
- Skeletal muscle relaxation
There are reports of general anaesthesia awareness where the patient has not been given enough anaesthetic. There are two types of awareness when this occurs, where the patient will respond to commands and have no recall of those events. The other is where a patient can recall events of the operation but not respond to commands. Occurrences of this has been well documented and described by researchers and patients.
There is also many accounts of patients who have survived a near-death experience while under general surgery. Where patients have recorded accurately who, what was in the room, what was said, what was done etc. Many report floating around in the operating room and watching the doctors performing the operation or working hard to revive their body.
These events are memorable and significant to the experiencer, and may be proof to you that the soul does exist.
Have a look at this website where people write about their near death experiences - not all related to surgery - nderf.org/NDERF_NDEs.htm
near-death.com/evidence.html#a2
Hope this is of some help to you.
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valentino
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If you are saying death is just an eternal dream(like being nowhere with no thoughts)your wrong.God tells us what death is all about.I don’t mean to prod, but who’s to say death isn’t like those moments when you’re under during surgery?
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cpsusie
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About consciousness after death. I think when our souls cease to animate our bodies because of death, only God knows what kind of consciousness we will have or if or to what degree the awareness that we will have resemble living consciousness. As humans, we are designed to be spirit together with flesh, so we will not be whole after death.
Now at the Second Coming when our bodies will be raised and rejoined with our souls and we go on to our eternal destinations as whole beings, I’d venture that we’ll have something like consciousness. As to whether we’ll sleep in our glorified bodies in heaven, somehow I doubt it, but who knows? I haven’t been there!
Now at the Second Coming when our bodies will be raised and rejoined with our souls and we go on to our eternal destinations as whole beings, I’d venture that we’ll have something like consciousness. As to whether we’ll sleep in our glorified bodies in heaven, somehow I doubt it, but who knows? I haven’t been there!
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GEddie
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As PuzzleAnnie pointed out, the soul is not consciousness, but life. Consciousness requires the expression of that life through a body, or soma. In your human body, the mechanism that maintains your consciousness is the brain stem. If it’s operation is disturbed you become unconscious.About consciousness after death. I think when our souls cease to animate our bodies because of death, only God knows what kind of consciousness we will have or if or to what degree the awareness that we will have resemble living consciousness. As humans, we are designed to be spirit together with flesh, so we will not be whole after death.
Now at the Second Coming when our bodies will be raised and rejoined with our souls and we go on to our eternal destinations as whole beings, I’d venture that we’ll have something like consciousness. As to whether we’ll sleep in our glorified bodies in heaven, somehow I doubt it, but who knows? I haven’t been there!
When it stops working altogther, unconsciousness becomes death. However, the admittedly sparse record of human eschatology in Scripture describes dead human beings experiencing consciousness at least as good as our own: Luke 16:19ff; Rv 6:9, etc.
The key is what Saint Paul calls pneumatikon soma; spiritual body. After you suffer death, your pneumatikon soma takes over the task of maintaining your consciousness. This enables the saints in Rv 6 to remember their life and even their death; Lazarus and Abraham to know each other (although they never knew each other alive) and the Rich Man to remember his living brothers; etc.
There is no waiting through time for your consciousness to be regained (although we will presumably die unconscious). Time results from the entropy of your body’s material. It is not a factor in your next life.
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