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Who disputed that Joshua is part of Israel’s history?
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The works of Jesus are literal. Healings, raising the dead, driving out demons. The majority of questions like this involve the Old Testament. And Jesus referred to the Old Testament as well.
The Bible, both Old and New Testaments, were not just written for their time period and the culture in place at the time. Both the Old and New Testaments still instruct us today because human beings have not changed in 2,000 years. The OP’s question is too broad.
“Genesis does not contain purified myths.” Pontifical Biblical Commission, 1909.
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The Bible, both Old and New Testaments, were not just written for their time period and the culture in place at the time. Both the Old and New Testaments still instruct us today because human beings have not changed in 2,000 years. The OP’s question is too broad.
“Genesis does not contain purified myths.” Pontifical Biblical Commission, 1909.
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From the Catechism:
II. INSPIRATION AND TRUTH OF SACRED SCRIPTURE
"105 God is the author of Sacred Scripture. "The divinely revealed realities, which are contained and presented in the text of Sacred Scripture, have been written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit."69
"For Holy Mother Church, relying on the faith of the apostolic age, accepts as sacred and canonical the books of the Old and the New Testaments, whole and entire, with all their parts, on the grounds that, written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God as their author, and have been handed on as such to the Church herself."70
"106 God inspired the human authors of the sacred books. "To compose the sacred books, God chose certain men who, all the while he employed them in this task, made full use of their own faculties and powers so that, though he acted in them and by them, it was as true authors that they consigned to writing whatever he wanted written, and no more."71
"107 The inspired books teach the truth. "Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures."72
"108 Still, the Christian faith is not a “religion of the book.” Christianity is the religion of the “Word” of God, a word which is “not a written and mute word, but the Word is incarnate and living”.73 If the Scriptures are not to remain a dead letter, Christ, the eternal Word of the living God, must, through the Holy Spirit, "open [our] minds to understand the Scriptures."74
The assumption that the writers were little educated is not the issue. The complexity argument holds zero weight. Since God is the author, He could have used language that people at the time could plainly understand.
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II. INSPIRATION AND TRUTH OF SACRED SCRIPTURE
"105 God is the author of Sacred Scripture. "The divinely revealed realities, which are contained and presented in the text of Sacred Scripture, have been written down under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit."69
"For Holy Mother Church, relying on the faith of the apostolic age, accepts as sacred and canonical the books of the Old and the New Testaments, whole and entire, with all their parts, on the grounds that, written under the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, they have God as their author, and have been handed on as such to the Church herself."70
"106 God inspired the human authors of the sacred books. "To compose the sacred books, God chose certain men who, all the while he employed them in this task, made full use of their own faculties and powers so that, though he acted in them and by them, it was as true authors that they consigned to writing whatever he wanted written, and no more."71
"107 The inspired books teach the truth. "Since therefore all that the inspired authors or sacred writers affirm should be regarded as affirmed by the Holy Spirit, we must acknowledge that the books of Scripture firmly, faithfully, and without error teach that truth which God, for the sake of our salvation, wished to see confided to the Sacred Scriptures."72
"108 Still, the Christian faith is not a “religion of the book.” Christianity is the religion of the “Word” of God, a word which is “not a written and mute word, but the Word is incarnate and living”.73 If the Scriptures are not to remain a dead letter, Christ, the eternal Word of the living God, must, through the Holy Spirit, "open [our] minds to understand the Scriptures."74
The assumption that the writers were little educated is not the issue. The complexity argument holds zero weight. Since God is the author, He could have used language that people at the time could plainly understand.
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With all due respect to the Jewish people, God is the author of Scripture. For Catholics, the Church is the source of interpretation and clarification. Most questions about the Bible over the centuries have involved “what if” situations, which, in a few cases, were accepted for a time, like Arianism, which was later condemned.
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Strict instructions are given to Theologians regarding interpreting Scripture. Lay Catholic opinions, without references to authentic Catholic teaching, are just opinions which, like other opinions on the internet, can morph into facts without a solid foundation. The role of the Israelites is not ignored.
John 8:57
New International Version
“You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”
New Living Translation
The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?”
English Standard Version
So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?”
John 8:58
New International Version
“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
New Living Translation
Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!”
English Standard Version
Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
Berean Study Bible
“Truly, truly, I tell you,” Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
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John 8:57
New International Version
“You are not yet fifty years old,” they said to him, “and you have seen Abraham!”
New Living Translation
The people said, “You aren’t even fifty years old. How can you say you have seen Abraham?”
English Standard Version
So the Jews said to him, “You are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham?”
John 8:58
New International Version
“Very truly I tell you,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
New Living Translation
Jesus answered, “I tell you the truth, before Abraham was even born, I Am!”
English Standard Version
Jesus said to them, “Truly, truly, I say to you, before Abraham was, I am.”
Berean Study Bible
“Truly, truly, I tell you,” Jesus declared, “before Abraham was born, I am!”
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grannymh
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Answer to thread title.
First one has to learn what the biblical story is actually teaching. Some stories may be explaining history. Other stories may contain Divine truth such as a real first original human committing the Original Sin in the first three historical chapters of Genesis.
First one has to learn what the biblical story is actually teaching. Some stories may be explaining history. Other stories may contain Divine truth such as a real first original human committing the Original Sin in the first three historical chapters of Genesis.
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While the scribes were principally theologians, I do not believe we can dismiss them as being completely ahistorical. The inspired writers wrote at particular times in which contemporaries could and, presumably would, challenge historical errors in their writings about events occurring within living memory. Exegetes believe the Yahwist epic was compiled during the reign of Solomon or shortly thereafter (950-900 BC) and fixed in writing during the Babylonian Exile (586-539 BC). Scholars place the Elohists epic composition around 800 BC during the Divided Monarchies. Many years later, around 400 BC, scholars believe the priests and scribes brought these epics together in literary form that they call the Priestly tradition.Which stories/things/events/decisions in the Bible can a Catholic not accept as literal?
I hope that you have understood this question i m not extremely good at English
So, there is reason, I believe, to attach a scale of historicity to the Old Testament. The scale would have its highest rating for factual accuracy during the period of the Babylonian Captivity and the reigns of David and Solomon and would descend in accuracy as events moved back in time. Scholars note that in the stories of the Kings of Israel and Judah we find accounts that are much more like histories written by the Romans and Greeks.
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