Which Bishops are Right and Which are Wrong Regarding Giving Communion to Pro Abort Politicians

[etspiri2sanctus]

On another thread the question was asked if Joe Biden (or perhaps any other pro abort pols) should be excommunicated as they support snd spread the evil of abortion.

One answer was given that we must abide by the individual Bishops decisions as to whether the pols in their diocese should or should not receive communioin.

IF canon 915 is a decree of Objective Truth, then how can some Bishops condone giving communion to pro abort pols, while others say they will not do so as to allow it, as I understand it, desecrate the Holy Eucharist.

One Bishop even went so far to say the Eucharist may be a “teaching” tool for those not in the state of grace (ie. pro aborts), that it could somehow miraculously turn their ankles so they would turn in the opposite direction.

So which is is it., as I was always taught, that one should be willing to lay down one’s life before allowing desecration of the Eucharist, or the hope that a miracle will occur and convert the sinner?

If unrepentant sinners are allowed to receive the Body of Christ doesn’t this mean the host is only a piece of bread and a cup of ordinary wine to some?

 

[Theophorus]

St. Paul told us that those who eat and drink unworthy bring condemnation on themselves cf 1 Cor 11:29.

Cardinal Burke also has spoken often on this subject and I would be more likely to accept his understanding of canon law given his role in the Apostolic Signatura and his general Catholicity

So which is is it., as I was always taught, that one should be willing to lay down one’s life before allowing desecration of the Eucharist, or the hope that a miracle will occur and convert the sinner?

If one is in a state of Mortal Sin they should not receive the Eucharist, if one is objectively, obviously and publicly in a state of mortal sin such as pro-abort politicians then they should be barred from receiving the Holy Eucharist.

cf Cardinal Burke on Canon 915: therealpresence.org/eucharst/holycom/denial.htm

 

[Joe_5859]

Canon Law is not a collection of decrees of Objective Truth. Many, if not most, canons deal with disciplines that can change.

I would never assume that a bishop is not doing anything about it. It is quite probable that these bishops are in contact with these politicians and are attempting to bring them around. But it would be inappropriate for them to publicly broadcast that information.

 

[Theophorus]

Canon Law is not a collection of decrees of Objective Truth. Many, if not most, canons deal with disciplines that can change.

I would never assume that a bishop is not doing anything about it. It is quite probable that these bishops are in contact with these politicians and are attempting to bring them around. But it would be inappropriate for them to publicly broadcast that information.

Public dissent calls for public reprimand otherwise confusion among the rest of the lay faithful is likely to occur. St Ambrose of Milan (died AD397) publicly reprimanded the Roman emperor and barred him from the sacraments until he repented after he massacred innocent civilians during one of his campaigns.

 

[Joe_5859]

Public dissent calls for public reprimand otherwise confusion among the rest of the lay faithful is likely to occur. St Ambrose of Milan (died AD397) publicly reprimanded the Roman emperor and barred him from the sacraments until he repented after he massacred innocent civilians during one of his campaigns.

I’ll leave that to the bishops to decide.

Personally, I agree with Burke about canon 915, but you’ll notice that even Burke doesn’t name names or send open letters to Joe Biden, John Kerry, et al.

I think that public dissent calls for catechesis, not public reprimand, except as a last resort.

 

[Ignatius]

So which is is it., as I was always taught, that one should be willing to lay down one’s life before allowing desecration of the Eucharist,

You were taught right, We should lay down our life rather than see the sacralege of descecration of The Eucharist.