Which Catholic bible includes the most complete Apocrypha (14 books)?

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This is what I meant:
  1. 1 Esdras (Vulgate 3 Esdras)
  2. 2 Esdras (Vulgate 4 Esdras)
  3. Tobit
  4. Judith (“Judeth” in Geneva)
  5. Rest of Esther (Vulgate Esther 10:4 – 16:24)
  6. Wisdom
  7. Ecclesiasticus (also known as Sirach)
  8. Baruch and the Epistle of Jeremy (“Jeremiah” in Geneva) (all part of Vulgate Baruch)
  9. Song of the Three Children (Vulgate Daniel 3:24–90)
  10. Story of Susanna (Vulgate Daniel 13)
  11. The Idol Bel and the Dragon (Vulgate Daniel 14)
  12. Prayer of Manasses (Daniel)
  13. 1 Maccabees
  14. 2 Maccabees
Is there any Catholic Bible edition that includes the above books ?
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Strictly speaking, there are only seven deuterocanonical books: Nos. 3, 4, 6, 7, 8, 13, and 14 on your list.
Nos. 9, 10, and 11 are parts of the book of Daniel in its longer version found in Catholic Bibles.
No. 5 is part of Esther in its longer verson.
Nos. 1, 2, and 12 are considered apocryphal by the Catholic Church as well as by the Protestant churches.
 
The renaming/renumbering of the original four books of Esdras can be misleading.
The old 1 Esdras is now Ezra and the old 2 Esdras is now Nehemiah.
The old 3 Esdras is now 1 Esdras and the old 4 Esdras is now 2 Esdras.
 
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VacareDeo said:
This is what I meant:
  1. 1 Esdras (Vulgate 3 Esdras)
  2. 2 Esdras (Vulgate 4 Esdras)
  3. Tobit
  4. Judith (“Judeth” in Geneva)
  5. Rest of Esther (Vulgate Esther 10:4 – 16:24)
  6. Wisdom
  7. Ecclesiasticus (also known as Sirach)
  8. Baruch and the Epistle of Jeremy (“Jeremiah” in Geneva) (all part of Vulgate Baruch)
  9. Song of the Three Children (Vulgate Daniel 3:24–90)
  10. Story of Susanna (Vulgate Daniel 13)
  11. The Idol Bel and the Dragon (Vulgate Daniel 14)
  12. Prayer of Manasses (Daniel)
  13. 1 Maccabees
  14. 2 Maccabees
Is there any Catholic Bible edition that includes the above books ?
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Catholic Bibles deal with these books as follows:
  1. 1 Esdras (Vulgate 3 Esdras) - not included in Catholic Bibles
  2. 2 Esdras (Vulgate 4 Esdras) - not included in Catholic Bibles
  3. Tobit - Included
  4. Judith (“Judeth” in Geneva) - included
  5. Rest of Esther (Vulgate Esther 10:4 – 16:24) - Included as part of Esther, either as chapters 10-16 or A-F
  6. Wisdom - Included
  7. Ecclesiasticus (also known as Sirach) - Included
  8. Baruch and the Epistle of Jeremy (“Jeremiah” in Geneva) (all part of Vulgate Baruch) - both included as one book: the book of Baruch.
  9. Song of the Three Children (Vulgate Daniel 3:24–90) - included as part of Daniel.
  10. Story of Susanna (Vulgate Daniel 13) - Included as part of Daniel.
  11. The Idol Bel and the Dragon (Vulgate Daniel 14) - included as part of Daniel
  12. Prayer of Manasses (Daniel) - not included
  13. 1 Maccabees - included
  14. 2 Maccabees - included
Since you mention some books not included in the Catholic canon, you may be looking for a “common Bible” rather than a Catholic Bible. Such Bibles will usually have the Deuterocanonicals+Apocrypha “sandwiched” between the two testaments.

Example of this in NRSV: The New Revised Standard Version Bible with Apocrypha - Hardcover - NRSV Bible Translation Committee - Oxford University Press

And ESV: Amazon.ca

The RSV also had such an edition, but might be difficult to find now, outside, possibly, of the New Oxford Annotated Bible, RSV edition.
 
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You may want to consider the Oxford Annotated Study Bilble (NRSV) 4th Edition from Amazon. It has all of the Apocrypha books you are looking for.
 
The Oxford one is great. That’s the one we used in my religion classes in college. I had a big read hardback one. I wish I knew for sure what happened to it.
 
VacareDeo said:
Does it means that it will never be included in any of the Catholic bible for some reason ?
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Of the fourteen books you listed, eleven appear in all Catholic Bibles – seven of them as separate books and the other four as parts of the longer versions of Esther and Daniel, as indicated. These last three books – the Prayer of Manasses (Manasseh) and the two books of Esdras – are normally omitted, but “normally” doesn’t mean “invariably”. They are not part of the OT canon recognized by the Catholic Church. If the publishers of a Catholic Bible wanted to include them, my guess is that they would be placed in a separate middle section between the OT and the NT, labeled the Apocrypha. But that’s just my guess.
 
VacareDeo said:
Does it means that it will never be included in any of the Catholic bible for some reason ?
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No, but if I recall correctly, I think Eastern Orthodox bibles may include them.
 
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Kei said:
All Catholic Bibles should include all actual apocrypha.
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Apocrypha means books that are not inspired…there is no apocrypha making up part of the canon…there are deuterocanonical books…Protestants refer to the deuterocanonical books as apocrypha.
 
Hi VacareDeo,

This is the one. I’d check Amazon to see how much a good used one costs. Enjoy!

Stuart
 
Thanks guys.

After looking at the samples of Didache: hxxps://www.ignatius.com/Assets/SamplePages/DidacheBible.pdf
somehow it does not shows the Apocrypha anymore.

Hence so far, The New Oxford Annotated Bible with Apocrypha: New Revised Standard Version 5th Edition is the most complete that I have seen to date.
 
The Didache Bible will not show the Apocrypha because it is a Catholic Bible.
It will include the Deuterocannonical books.
 
Yes, that does make sense people.
Thanks for the clarification and suggestion in this matter.
 
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