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Hi, i’m new and i was just wondering, how many diffrent types of Catholic parts are there(roman, ect). What are the major diffrences, if someone could please give me an answer, it would be appriciated, well God bless, bye.
 

I saved this from another forum; I hope it helps. Someone more knowledgeable than I will have to address the differences. Perhaps if we keep the discussion civil, it can become a FAQ.​

There is more to the Catholic Church than the Latin (Roman) Church. In fact, there are 22 different Churches that make up the Catholic Church; see the list below. Each of the Churches is a full member of the Catholic Church; each recognizes the pope as head of the institutional Church. This is what it means to be in “full communion.” Non-Latin (non-Roman) Catholics are governed by special rules, have their own patriarchs (the pope is the Roman patriarch), liturgies, theologies and spiritualities. They are every bit as Catholic as the Roman Catholics, just different.
The twenty-two Catholic Churches listed by rite:
• ROMAN RITE
  1. Latin Church
    • ARMENIAN RITE
  2. Armenian Church
    • BYZANTINE RITE
  3. Italo-Albanian Church
  4. Melkite Church
  5. Ukrainian Church
  6. Ruthenian Church
  7. Romanian Church
  8. Greek Church (in Greece)
  9. Greek Church of Former Yugoslavia
  10. Bulgarian Church
  11. Slovak Church
  12. Hungarian Church
  13. Russian Church
  14. Belarusan Church
  15. Albanian Church
    • COPTIC RITE
  16. Coptic Church (in many lists the Ethiopian Church is also placed here)
    • MARONITE RITE
  17. Maronite Church
    • EAST SYRIAN RITE
  18. Chaldean Church
  19. Syro-Malabar Church
    • WEST SYRIAN RITE
  20. Syro-Malankara Church
  21. Syrian Church
    • ETHIOPIAN RITE
  22. Ethiopian Church (often listed under the Coptic Rite)

Another way of looking at the Catholic Communion, or the universal Catholic Church, is:
The WEST (#1) The Roman Catholic Church (Latins); and
The EAST: (#s 2 to 22).
Eastern (and Oriental) Catholics number aroung 20 million worldwide.​

 
The above response is excellent.

I think many (non-Catholics) attempt to characterise the entire Catholic Church as the “Roman Catholic Church” in the hopes of keeping a space open at the table for their chosen ecclesial group.

For example, more than a few Anglican Protestants try to sell themselves as “Anglo-Catholics.” If they were serious about actually being part of the Catholic Church, they have the option of joining a parish with the Anglican Use provision within the Latin Rite.
 
Also, within the Latin or Roman Church, there is more than one rite. This is the opposite of the eastern side of the Church. Colin Donovan of EWTN lists the rites within the Latin Church as:

Roman - The overwhelming majority of Latin Catholics and of Catholics in general. Patriarch of this and the other Roman Rites is the Bishop of Rome. The current Roman Rite is that of the 1969 Missale Romanum, to be published in a third edition in 2001.
  • Missal of 1962 **(Tridentine Mass) **- Some institutes within the Roman Rite, such as the Priestly Fraternity of St. Peter, have the faculty to celebrate the sacramental rites according to the forms in use prior to the Second Vatican Council. This faculty can also be obtained by individual priests from their bishop or from the Pontifical Council Ecclesia Dei.
  • Anglican Use - Since the 1980s the Holy See has granted some former Anglican and Episcopal clergy converting with their parishes the faculty of celebrating the sacramental rites according to Anglican forms, doctrinally corrected.
• Mozarabic - The Rite of the Iberian peninsula (Spain and Portugal) known from at least the 6th century, but probably with roots to the original evangelization. Beginning in the 11th century it was generally replaced by the Roman Rite, although it has remained the Rite of the Cathedral of the Archdiocese of Toledo, Spain, and six parishes which sought permission to adhere to it. Its celebration today is generally semi-private.

• Ambrosian - The Rite of the Archdiocese of Milan, Italy, thought to be of early origin and probably consolidated, but not originated, by St. Ambrose. Pope Paul VI was from this Roman Rite. It continues to be celebrated in Milan, though not by all parishes.

• Bragan - Rite of the Archdiocese of Braga, the Primatial See of Portugal, it derives from the 12th century or earlier. It continues to be of occasional use.

• Dominican - Rite of the Order of Friars Preacher (OP), founded by St. Dominic in 1215.

• Carmelite - Rite of the Order of Carmel, whose modern foundation was by St. Berthold c.1154.

• Carthusian - Rite of the Carthusian Order founded by St. Bruno in 1084.
 
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Crusader:
The above response is excellent.

I think many (non-Catholics) attempt to characterise the entire Catholic Church as the “Roman Catholic Church” in the hopes of keeping a space open at the table for their chosen ecclesial group.

For example, more than a few Anglican Protestants try to sell themselves as “Anglo-Catholics.” If they were serious about actually being part of the Catholic Church, they have the option of joining a parish with the Anglican Use provision within the Latin Rite.
Anglican Use parishes are too rare, there are only 5 of them in the United States and most of them are in Texas.
 
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Iohannes:
Anglican Use parishes are too rare, there are only 5 of them in the United States and most of them are in Texas.
Whoa. I live in Texas and I have never heard of the Anglican Use in my entire life until just now. I didn’t even know Anglicans/Episcopalians were big over here.
 
Archbishop 10-K:
Whoa. I live in Texas and I have never heard of the Anglican Use in my entire life until just now. I didn’t even know Anglicans/Episcopalians were big over here.
For more information go here:

pastoralprovision.org/

Here is the first Anglican Use Parish in Texas:
atonementonline.com/

The only problerm is that many bishops are afraid of the Anglican Use liturgy because they are almost like traditionalist without Latin.

I was wrong, there are 7 parishes instead of 5.
 
Melman,

I recognize the list you posted, but can’t remember from where it originated. It’s close, but not fully accurate; it doesn’t include the Georgian Church, uses an obsolete name (Greeks in former Yugoslavia) for the Croatian Church, doesn’t employ the full name of the Italo-Greico-Albanian Church, and assigns the Ethiopian Church to a Rite of its own.

Ryan,

There are 23 Churches *sui iuris *(“of their own law” or self-governing). They are also described in some documents as autonomous Particular Churches.

By the term “Western Church” is meant the Latin or Roman Catholic Church. Collectively, the other 22 Churches are generally referred to as the Eastern Catholic Churches or, sometimes, as the Oriental Catholic Churches. Strictly speaking, the 14 Churches which utilize the Byzantine Rite are the Eastern Catholic Churches; the other 8 Churches are the Oriental Catholic Churches. This distinction reflects that which is made among the counterpart or Sister (Orthodox) Churches, where Eastern Orthodox and Oriental Orthodox Churches are also distinguished by the Rite that each uses.

For a long time, each group of Eastern Catholics was referred to by their name (usually relective of their historical national identity or ethnic origin), followed by the word “Rite”. Thus, you would hear references to someone being of the “Ukrainian Rite” or to “Melkite Rite Catholics”. At the urging of the Eastern Catholic hierarchs participating in Vatican II, particularly His Beatitude Maximos IV Saigh, Patriarch of Antioch & All the East, of Alexandria and of Jerusalem of the Melkites, of blessed memory, the Church recognized the status of the Churches as *sui iuris *ecclesial entities, each of which uses a particular Rite.

A Rite is the collected liturgical patrimony or heritage by which a group of persons conduct their religious life. It is more than just differences in language, culture, and vesture, although those are often among the most immediately obvious distinctions. It’s often thought of as strictly applicable to their liturgical worship service; it actually includes the totality of a people’s religious expression, including their sacraments, sacramentals, prayers, music and even aspects of their religious artistic expression and ecclesial architecture.

Originally, there were 3 Rites - Latin, Alexandrean, and Antiochene; the Byzantine Rite was added shortly thereafter. These Rites arose from the customs and style of worship in what were then the 4 most important Christian centers. The differences among them sprung from the fact that uniformity of worship and liturgical practice was difficult to maintain over time, as the number of clergy increased, local cultures and customs began to be woven into the rituals used, and both travel and communication was hampered by geography and the limited means available to make and maintain contact between churches and clerics.

Over time, the 4 were modified or developed further in new regions. Some variations were so distinctive as to be deemed separate Rites. Here, I’m referring to the Maronite and Armenian Rites, both of which developed in relative isolation because of geography. The result is that most authorities would term Maronite as a Rite unto itself; while a minority would either place it within the West Syrian Tradition of the Antiochene Rite, where it originated. As to the Armenian, it is almost invariably deemed a separate Rite; it is uncommon to see it categorized within the Byzantine Rite, where it originated. The Latin, Armenian, and Maronite Rites are each used by only a single Church sui iuris; the others are all used by two or more such Churches.

“Traditions” are breakdowns within a Rite that principally reflect variations of culture or ecclesial language. Within some Traditions, there are also what are styled “Rescensions”; Rescensions occur where there has been further defining of the form of worship by characteristics unique to one or more of the Churches in a Tradition. “Usage” is a term of recent origin that ordinarily denotes limited, localized differences within a Church itself (as opposed to Rescensions, which occur within a Tradition).

The breakout, then, is:

Rite
*Traditions
***Rescensions
****Churches
*****Usages

Within the Italo-Greco-Albanian, Russian, and Ruthenian Catholic Churches, there are also separate canonical jurisdictions that, technically, each constitute a separate Church sui iuris since there is no formal canonical relationship between or among the jurisdictions and none of the hierarchs are singularly designated as the Church’s principal hierarch.

(continued, because I know I’m going to exceed the character count)
 
This, then, is the break-out most frequently referenced:

Alexandrean Rite
*Coptic Tradition
****Coptic Catholic Church

**Ge’ez Tradition
****Ethiopian (& Eritrean) Catholic Church

Antiochene Rite

*East Syrian Tradition
****Chaldean Catholic Church
*****Arabic Usage

****Syro-Malabarese Catholic Church
*****Knanaya Usage

*West Syrian Tradition
****Syriac Catholic Church

****Syro-Malankarese Catholic Church

Armenian Rite

****Armenian Catholic Church

Byzantine Rite

*Byzantine-Greek Tradition
****Albanian Catholic Church
****Georgian Catholic Church
****Greek Catholic Church
****Italo-Greco-Albanian Catholic Church
********Italo-Greek Catholic Church - **Exarchic Abbey & Territorial Monastery of Santa Maria di Grottaferrata degli Italo-Grieco
********Italo-Albanian Catholic Church - **Eparchy of Lungro degli Italo-Albanesi in Calabria
********Italo-Albanian Catholic Church - **Eparchy of Piana in Sicily degli Albenisi
****Melkite Catholic Church

Byzantine Rite

*Byzantine-Slav Tradition
****Belarusan Catholic Church
****Bulgarian Catholic Church
****Croatian Catholic Church
****Hungarian Catholic Church
****Romanian Catholic Church
****Russian Catholic Church
******Russian Caholic Church - Apostolic Exarchate of Moscow
******Russian Catholic Church - Apostolic Exarchate of Harbin
****Ruthenian Catholic Church
******Ruthenian Metropolitan Catholic Church - Metropolitinate of Pittsburgh
******Ruthenian Eparchial Catholic Church - Eparchy of Mukachevo
****Slovakian Catholic Church
****Ukrainian Catholic Church

Maronite Rite

****Maronite Catholic Church

Latin Rite

****Roman Catholic Church
*****Ambrosian Usage
*****Anglican Usage
*****Bragan Usage
*****Mozarabic Usage
*****Usages of Religious Orders

Although Ambrosian, Bragan, Mozarabic, and Religious Order variants on the Latin Rite are usually termed “Rites”, each is, in reality, a “Usage” as we now think of such - a styling that wasn’t employed when they came into being.

Many years,

Neil

I’ll try and post tonight as to the jurisdictional differences (patriarchate, major archbishopric, etc) among the various Churches
 
Iohannes,

Thanks for the kind words.

Hmm, about 2 weeks ago I said I’d post the jurisdictional differences among the Churches. That kind of got lost in the shuffle, but I did essentially that on another thread in the interim, so I’ll link to that, instead of re-inventing the wheel here. See:

Patriarchal Churches

and the 3 or 4 posts immediately after the one to which I’ve linked.

Many years,

Neil
 
Well this leads me to a question. Since there are 23 sui iurius Churches, do they all have their own canon of law? If so, what are the main, or major, differences with Roman, or Latin, Canon Law?
 
Just imagine, I was thinking of posting reform, conservative and orthodox… 🙂

John
 
There are two Codes of Canon Law-one for the Latin Church, another for the Eastern Churches *en masse. *The Easter Code is a bit more vague, to allow each Church to determine her own norms and particular laws, persuant to the CCEO. For instance, according to the CCEO, the regulation of liturgical law is determined in patriarchal and metropolitan Churches by a synod of Bishops or a council of hierarchs (respectively). So the synod or council in codifying particular law, determines whether women can serve in the Altar, for instance (this is the only actual example i can cite at the moment, so i mention it). Does this answer the question?

In Christ,
Adam
 
Archbishop 10-K:
Whoa. I live in Texas and I have never heard of the Anglican Use in my entire life until just now. I didn’t even know Anglicans/Episcopalians were big over here.
There is one here in houston I know of, Our Lady of Walsingham. I go there sometimes because the Chesterton Society meets there often.
 
Neil,

That was very good. You put it together very clearly, so it can be comprehended without confusion. I know it is hard for me to keep it straight, so thanks again for the good job!

Pani Rose 👍
 
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Iohannes:
Anglican Use parishes are too rare, there are only 5 of them in the United States and most of them are in Texas.

And none in England 😦

 
22 different divisions of Catholicism in 2000 years vs. about 35,000 different Protestant denominations in 500 years. We must be doing something right!!! 😛
 
Well this leads me to a question. Since there are 23 sui iurius Churches, do they all have their own canon of law? If so, what are the main, or major, differences with Roman, or Latin, Canon Law?
Yes and no…

Rome has promulgated two codes of Canon Law:
CIC (Codex Iuris Canonici): Roman Church
CCEO (Codex canonum ecclesiarum orientalium): The other 22.

Each Sui Iuris church is allowed to enact further particular laws for that church sui iuris, provided they do not conflict with the CCEO, and metropolitans/archbishops and eparchs/bishops as well, but they hold no force of law without Roman approval.

Further, the CCEO requires defining certain elements, like which minor orders, and how they are ordered and conferred.

Note also: Roman church bishops may, as well, promulgate particular law. Again, it needs Roman approval.

Regional Synods as well are allowed to make particular law.
 
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