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I am a scupulous Catholic. I have not seen a single movie in the last few years (apart from LOTR for the most part) which I have felt comfortable watching in lieu of my Catholic Faith.

Pls give me a couple of good inspiring films to watch
 
John of Woking:
I am a scupulous Catholic. I have not seen a single movie in the last few years (apart from LOTR for the most part) which I have felt comfortable watching in lieu of my Catholic Faith.

Pls give me a couple of good inspiring films to watch
“The Passion” is of course a good bet. There was also a film about St. Therese of Lisieux (The Little Flower) that was supposed to be really good. I think it was called “Therese.”

Those would probably be the most inspiring.
 
Life is Beautiful
Pay It Forward
Wide Awake

Then there are the old ones

Song of Bernadette
Sound of Music

Also recently released on DVD:

The King of Kings (1927 silent) The ROADSHOW version…its restored and uncut and also includes the scene where the demons are driven from Mary M.

I also like:

The Ghost & Mrs Muir
 
Little known, very catholic film called The Maldonado Miracle. I stumbled across it accidentally, and my whole family loved it. I reccommended it to my inlaws, who are devout cradle Catholics(I am just coming in), and they loved it, as well. Enjoy.

Sherilo
 
You might check out Babette’s Feast. It’s not about Catholics, but is about Christians and selfless giving. Lovely movie.

'thann
 
I saw one last night that was much better than I would have thought – Disney’s “Ice Princess,” which has a G rating. The plot is a bit of a stretch, but the dialogue and Michelle Trachtenberg’s acting keeps it interesting enough to make the suspension of belief enjoyable.

Trachtenberg plays a brainy, socially awkward teenager who loves ice skating. She begins analyzing the physics behind the movements made by competitive skaters who go to her high school, and manages to improve her own skating as well. This might well have been a plot for an ABC after-school special, if they still made those, but it ends up being a lot better than it sounds. I only rented it because the video store had a scene from the film playing while I was there, and it looked interesting. It’s a good, safe family film.
 
John of Woking:
I am a scupulous Catholic. I have not seen a single movie in the last few years (apart from LOTR for the most part) which I have felt comfortable watching in lieu of my Catholic Faith.

Pls give me a couple of good inspiring films to watch
John,

Did you mean that you are trying to overcome your scrupulousness? I couldn’t tell…

Here are some beautiful movies that won’t shock your system too much along the way:
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Nights of Cabiria
Julien Po
The Straight Story
The Elephant Man*

If you want to joyfully jump right in and get rid of your scrupulosity once and for all:

anything by Fellini
anything by David Lynch
anything by Lars von Trier
The Reflecting Skin
The Passion of Darkly Noon
Looking for Mr. Goodbar


You can trust the first three directors above with your soul. They will take you to a good place.
 
If you don’t mind a war movie, with realistic war violence, I would highly recommend Mel Gibson’s “We Were Soldiers Once, and Young” that was the book, I think the movie Title is simply “We Were Soldiers.” This movie is quite realistic about real soldiers who sacrificed themselves in Viet Nam. Mel Gibson’s character is refreshingly Catholic. His faith is an extremely important part of his character’s life and it shows him kneeling in prayer with his children. It shows the families at home waiting for their men. If you like the war genre this is a great one to watch.

If you like a suspense/Thriller, I enjoyed M. Night Syamalan’s "Signs" Mel Gibson’s performance is fantastic in this movie. It isn’t violent or gorey, but relies on suspense and the main theme is about a minister who struggles with his faith in God because of the death of his wife. It is about God’s providence and everything happening for a reason in God’s plan.

If you would like to order Terese, it is finally available on DVD and can be ordered easily and relatively inexpensively through a website that someone posted on a thread I started a few days ago.

If you like Fantasy, The Lord of the Rings Trilogy is Catholic -friendly. Many of the themes are symbolic of Catholicism. There are books available on this topic, and you might enjoy reading them along with the books.

If you want a true story that is inspiring, and you, again, can tolerate realistic violence, Hotel Rwanda is amazing. The bonus features with interviews of the real man whom the movie was closely based on is also inspiring. This is a movie that shows how God can work through one individual to make a difference even in the midst of unspeakable evil.
 
New movies that are acceptable are hard to come by. Luckily for all of us, old movies are often better.

I just watched Bringing Up Baby the other night, fantastic Cary Grant, Audrey Hepburn movie.

Pirates of the Carribean didn’t offend me. It was mindless, but it was fun.

The Birdge On the River Kwai is one of the greatest movies of all time. Along with Lawrence of Arabia, Casablanca… any of the truly classic films.

Then there are great classic movies from abroad too like The Seven Samurai or Yojimbo by Akira Kurosawa.

And then there are animated films. Don’t write these off as kid movies just because they’re animated. I think adults have more fun watching most Pixar movies than kids do. The Incredibles was a fantastic movie and you’re not human if your eyes don’t tear up during Finding Nemo.

Or you could always watch Spirited Away by Hayao Miyazaki, one of the most beautiful animated movies of all time.

But there’s really nothing in the theatres right now that I would pay money to see.
 
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And then there are animated films. Don’t write these off as kid movies just because they’re animated. I think adults have more fun watching most Pixar movies than kids do. The Incredibles was a fantastic movie and you’re not human if your eyes don’t tear up during Finding Nemo.

Or you could always watch Spirited Away by Hayao Miyazaki, one of the most beautiful animated movies of all time.

But there’s really nothing in the theatres right now that I would pay money to see.
I enjoyed Spirited Away, we have the DVD, but it scared the pants off my little kids. They won’t watch it again! Just to let you know, it’s a great movie, but based on Japanese folklore about spirits etc. If it will bother you to watch a movie that doesn’t fit entirely with Catholic theology, then you might not be able to get past that. I consider myself a devout Catholic and am able to enjoy stories from other cultures. If you like it there are some others I could recommend by Miyazaki:

Graveyard of the Fireflies is jawdropping
**Castle in the Sky **

Some of his other films Tortoro and Kiki’s great adventure are a little more childlike.
 
Graveyard of the Firefiles isn’t by Miyazaki. It was made by the other cofunder of studio Ghibli, Isao Takahata. It is also not child friendly, but still a great movie (about two children who wind up orphaned after the many firebombings of Japan during WWII, it’s a really tragic movie whereas Miyazaki’s stuff is usually much more heartwarming like My Nieghbor Totoro which is about two little kids whose mother is in the hospital, but they find a way to get through it all thanks to an adorably cute nature spirit (it is never established whether the spirit is real or a figment of their imaginiation, but either way, it’s really heartwarming)).

Miyazaki’s work is inspired by Japanese spiritual tradition in much the same that Van Helsing was a movie about Catholicism. The imagery is very Japanese (Shinto), but he never really expressly uses any specific religious doctrine or tradition to explain the fantasies in his movies. It’s really fantasy, but it’s an Asian fantasy.
 
Any of the Pixar animated films (Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles) are great fun to watch. They are not just kid movies - I think adults appreciate the depth of humor and animated detail more than the kiddos.

An older film that I absolutely LOVE is Chariots of Fire. The story of two British chmapion runners at the Paris Olympics in the 1920’s, it never fails to dazzle me. It is also a very inspiring story about following your dreams and sticking to your faith in God, even when other people mock it.
There are lots of other good, non-offensive sports movies out there too - Hoosiers and *Remember the Titians * are examples.

Of course, older, black and white movies CAN be perfectley clean and entertaining. This doesn’t mean that everything made in “the good old days” was family-friendly, but there is generally a higher standard of decency. Old classic musicals like Singin’ in the Rain or *White Christmas are tons of fun *.
 
Genesis315 said:
“The Passion” is of course a good bet. There was also a film about St. Therese of Lisieux (The Little Flower) that was supposed to be really good. I think it was called “Therese.”

Those would probably be the most inspiring.

It was really good…
 
John of Woking, I’m very glad I’ve visited your thread, I’m 16 and very conservatively catholic. I wish to be a filmmaker when I grow older, shed some light in holloywood hopefully, but it’s still a dream and yet to make it reality.

Perhaps the greatest Catholic film of all time, and one of my top five ‘A Man For All Seasons’. It’s about Saint Thomas More, and you’ll remember paul scholfield’s thomas more next time you’re in a debate, because in this he is the master of debating, he’s always arguing with heretics and those out to get him, and just when you think they got him cornered, he makes the greatest of comebacks. A must see.

Another film I really liked was The Mission, winner of the Palm D’or for 1986, starring Jeremy Irons and Robert Deniro, along with liam neeson, and by the same writer of ‘a man for all seasons’!
Jeremy Iron’s character is just inspiring as thomas more was portayed, and he’ll live long in your memory when your feeling down, he’s a missionary priest in the jungles of South America, and he converts all these tribes and Robert Deniro’s character, who is a criminal, but then gets his life changed for the better by this priest and becomes a priest himself, from what I could tell.
However some people didn’t like how the church was portrayed, because they got in the way of all his missionary work, I know where they’re coming from, but Jeremy Iron’s character represents the true intentions of the church and is very Christ-like.
Another problem might be the tribal nudity.

They’re the best catholic films in my view, now for another beautiful movie, and my favorite of all time! LIFE IS BEAUTIFUL!
Co-written, directed and starring Roberto Begnini, this film was best foreign film at the oscars plus the best actor oscar for Roberto! His character’s joy will put joy in your life and when times are bad in your life you’ll remeber this guy and feel happy.
Becuase this film is about this guy who’s a jew (relax, catholic friendly) and he arrives in this town in italy and all this comedic stuff happens I won’t tell you, but it’s set during WW2. He is a very happy person does everything he can to make others feel great, even in the worst of times- even when he and his family are captured by the nazis and put in a concentration camp!
The film is extremely powerful as well funny, and it doesn’t poke fun at the holocost, it examines it’s horror. I get shivers just writing about the movie, it’s a masterpiece.

Another great film is Napolean Dynamite, it’s a comedy about this nerd, and it’s much better you think, it’s one of the greatest of all time, it has elememnts of perfection, believe me, plus it’s recent.

Plus there’s always Ben Hur, the sound of music, casablanca, mrs miniver, singing in the rain.

Another one though, and one of my favorites, is dancer in the dark, winner of the Palm D’or for 2000, it’s about this refugee in America who does all she can for her son. It’s devestatingly powerful, and it’s written and directed by Lars Von Trier, one of the directors Pace i believe said was very trustworthy along with David Lynch and Fellini.

David Lynch’s elephant man is awesome, it’s his most moral film, however I doubt I’d trust him with my soul. Mullholland Drive contained lesbianism, and thats a film by him, although critically it’s really good, most of his other works are morally corrupt, including Wild at Heart. I loved Blue Velvet however, but that was still immoral.

Fellini, as if I’d trust him, His most acclaimed movie La Dolce Vita was a film that the Vatican tried to ban, and one which in my view presents Fatima negatively. All his films have a sense of rebelion toward the church, and that annoys me.

Lars Von Trier, very talented man but half his works are very immoral. The idiots perhaps being the worst, a lot of unnecessary nudity and sex in that. However I really liked Dogville, and that I believe is moral like Dancer in the Dark.

MEP I think recommended Spirited Away. It’s one of my favorite movies in a critical sense, however spiritually it’s got quite a bit wrong with it. It’s very new age and delves into the ‘spiritual’, hence it’s title, it has the message that there are spirits everywhere, even in non-living things, so be careful with that one, still very enjoyable if able to discern.

MEP was correct in metioning the incredibles though, it’s the bomb, everyone will love it and strengthens the family and is perhaps the greatest animated film both critcally and spiritually.

Another of my favorites is Grave of the Fireflies, another anime film but it’s a realistic film, not where all these stupid pointless action ocuurs. Its set in Japan when it was being bombed, and it’s the tale of a brother and his younger sister who do all they can to get food. It’s mesmorizingly powerful.

If you want more advice anytime send me an email at pattythebro@hotmail.com

God Bless You
 
What I don’t get is why Spirited Away is spiritually sketchy and Lord of the Rings isn’t. They’re both pure fantasy. As a student of Asian culture (and Japanese language and culture in particular) I can tell you there’s nothing truly religious in Spirited Away any more than there is in LOTR. It’s fantasy, pure and simple, a fairy tale. I think Americans are so unfamiliar with real Japanese spirituality that they can’t tell the difference between the fantasy and the religion. Spirited Away is simply a coming of age tale set in a fantastic world, and a brilliant one at that.
 
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David Lynch… I doubt I’d trust him with my soul. Mullholland Drive contained lesbianism, and thats a film by him, although critically it’s really good, most of his other works are morally corrupt, including Wild at Heart. I loved Blue Velvet however, but that was still immoral.
I think it’s great that you are so interested in movies, filmaker. Good luck to you in everything you do. I have some comments, though, on some of what you said:

Did Mulholland Drive contain lesbianism? Or was it rather something that looked like, or allowed itself to be perceived as, lesbianism? There is, of course, a major difference between the two. In other words, did these scenes lead to a greater redemption at the end of the movie than otherwise would have occured? We have to be very careful not to spread scandal about this type of thing, especially so the more it appears that sin is occuring. For instance, we might see a rape taking place in the upper window of a house and we might perceive it as two willing participants.

The same thing goes for the other Lynch films. Lynch allows sin in his films the same way that Fellini allowed it in his films; and it is the same way God allows/uses sin in this world. It is a very specific look into the mirror; sin used very specifically to acheive just enough of an effect for a look at oneself (in that state) to be repulsed by what one sees. This was what I meant by “entrusting one’s soul to them”. If you stay with the father/director and don’t abandon him, he will bring you to redemption; a redemption that is all the more beautiful for sin having occured.
Fellini… All his films have a sense of rebelion toward the church, and that annoys me.
There does seem to be a touch of this anti-clericalism in his films. Yet, he is still trustworthy in that he is so obviously honest about this. He had certain doubts about the Church at that time. And it appears that he may have been right.
Lars Von Trier, very talented man but half his works are very immoral. The idiots perhaps being the worst, a lot of unnecessary nudity and sex in that. However I really liked Dogville, and that I believe is moral like Dancer in the Dark.
If Lynch is God’s mercy, than von Trier is God’s justice. Like Lynch, von Trier only holds a mirror up to the world: If it is ugly, then that is our fault; our face even. How can we complain about our own face, thinking it is someone else’s?

Again, von Trier uses the immorality to show us the truth about what we are seeing and doing in our own lives. So I wouldn’t call it unnecessary, but very necessary. I will grant von Trier uses nudity less specifically than does Lynch and Fellini, so it is harder to tell. But then again, von Trier is justice…
 
Pace you’re very intelligent, I know what you’re saying, but I disagree.
Remeber when Jesus said if you look at someone in the wrong way then you’ve committed adultery within your heart, I don’t know the exact thing, but don’t you think in films such as the idiots viewers are much more vulnerable to committing what was said by Jesus?
There could be someone on the screen someone looks lustuflly at, but that person wasn’t meant to be for that use, like I might full lust after some hot chick in the background or some girl who passed by, that’s not the filmmaker’s intention, it was my fault.
However with the Idiots perhaps you could argue that lars von trier didn’t mean for it to be erotic, but one thing is for sure, when films show such a degree of nudity on screen, they’re opening everyone to an occassion of sin, and a lot of guys I know would watch that movie and get excited and you know what that leads to, no offence.
Whether it’s the intetion of those who made the movie, when there’s such sex scenes it becomes sinful because it’s leading everyone to sin in some way.
Such scenes work like pornography. there are always middle aged couples who watch such movies, with naked young people, wat does that do for a marriage, it poisons it most likely, whether drop by drop it still has a negative degree more than positive.

I’m not saying all the sex should be cut out, it’s open for discernment which film’s sex scenes are bad etc. but with the idiots i believe it was very sinful.
With mulholland drive, the two girls had two sex scenes together, that’s lesbian action, right there, and you can it probably leads to a greater moral or whatever, but would you set out to prove this sin is sinful by sinning? Of course not.

Sin on screen is fine when it leads to a greater moral, but everyone then thinks ok as long as it has a moral message.
With sex you can’t do that, because its an occassion of sin, and more is shown, the more harm it does. Snippets here and there are ok, but when you get to serious action happening, it’s sinful, it’s visual poison. Also the actors are engaging in sin, one of the reasons why there are so many marriage difficulties for married couples in hollywood is because when they act, they kiss other people for a part etc. eventually something happens, and snap.

What seperates sex from other sinful activity being displayed is that Jesus said that thing i mentioned earlier, and with sex, it has the potential for lust.
However with action scenes and violence, the actors aren’t sinning by pretending to do violence. Gotta be careful it’s not that influential on people’s mind and be moral about it, but in general it does put up a mirror.
Confronting the audience about an issue in general isn’t offensive, but confronting them with a potential and agreeable lure of lust is bad.

What if a priest watched such a film? He’d have more chance of images in his head, that’s all that needs to be said.

God Bless you
 
As a proofreader and an old-time movie buff, I just wanted to politely correct the person who mentioned “Bringing Up Baby”: that was Katherine, not Audrey, Hepburn.

As far as classic movies go, you can’t go wrong with Frank Capra, who did “It’s a Wonderful Life”, “It Happened One Night”, “Mr. Smith Goes to Washington” and “Pocketful of Miracles.” (I think Capra was Catholic.)

Also, surprisingly to some, Alfred Hitchcock was a practicing Catholic and did have Catholic themes in his movies. Watch “I Confess” (Montgomery Clift as a priest accused of a crime confessed to him in the confessional).

Also, Loretta Young was well known for being a practicing Catholic and refusing to play a role that in a film that wasn’t edifying.

On a more modern note: I just saw March of the Penguins – wonderful for the whole family. Very life affirming (and great on a hot summer day too!)
 
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Pace you’re very intelligent, I know what you’re saying, but I disagree.
Remeber when Jesus said if you look at someone in the wrong way then you’ve committed adultery within your heart, I don’t know the exact thing, but don’t you think in films such as the idiots viewers are much more vulnerable to committing what was said by Jesus?
My point is that God has worked/works through the three directors I mentioned. I agree that what you say about these things is true with nearly all other directors. So, if we sin…that’s not such a big deal. It’s the redemption that counts. Sometimes we need sin (the mirror). God sees this. He never wants us to sin - before, during or after - but he is willing to take that chance by presenting us with ‘opportunities’ to do so.

The two ‘sex scenes’ you mention from MD, aside from being objectively …barely sex at all (almost no carressing, groping, etc…everything is done in such a mechanical, ice-cold manner - except for the kissing), are so drenched in an atmosphere of dread and unhappiness that it would (and does) require quite an effort to find any glamourisation of sin there at all. This is God’s ‘pornography’. It is God in the disguise of pornography. It has the opposite effect of pornography. Have you heard that von Trier’s production company has been producing porn? They have even produced a gay porn film. A distributor who was considering buying this product (the gay porn) from von Trier’s company didn’t know what to make of it. He was very confused, because von Trier made guidelines as to how the porn was to be done: It had to show such and such emotions, or compassion, etc… …Well, the buyer didn’t know how his consumers would react to this kind of thing, being so different from the porn films they are used to.

This is God taking back the human body from the devil. John Paul was doing the same thing with his “Theology of the Body”.
 
Laura B:
As a proofreader and an old-time movie buff, I just wanted to politely correct the person who mentioned “Bringing Up Baby”: that was Katherine, not Audrey, Hepburn.
Oh my goodness! You are so right. I was thinking of Charade while I was typing that and Audrey came out instead of Katherine (btw, Charade is another great Cary Grant movie). I can’t believe I didn’t notice that myself, I’m usually so good about these things. My mom is so going to cream me the next time we play Scene It!: TCM Edition.
 
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