Who gave the world the Bible?

[ricko]

Cherry-picking bible thumper, “All I need to be saved is to believe in the Lord, the bible says ‘Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved’ I need nothing else”

Catholic guy, "You need to read the whole bible in context as the Catholic Church teaches because the bible ALSO says ‘NOT everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved but he who does the WILL of the Father.’ "

 

[placido]

Cherry-picking bible thumper, “All I need to be saved is to believe in the Lord, the bible says ‘Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved’ I need nothing else”

I do agree with you. Sola fide is a false teaching. By an analogy, it is like saying “all I need to be able to drive a car is a driver’s license, I need nothing else”. But in practice that is false. You need to obey traffic rules, not over-speed, not over-load, drive on the right side of the road, be sober and - most importantly - don’t drive a stolen or an unlicensed vehicle.

placido.

 

[PJM]

=Christalone;5324483]Both Roman Catholic and Greek Orthodox church leaders make the identical claim that they gave the world the Bible. If both the Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches make the same claim they gave the world the Bible, why do they have different books in each of their Bibles? Whose “church authority” shall we believe? Whose tradition is the one we should follow?

This is a NO BRAINER!

The Bible is Older than The GO Church, BUT NOT OLDER than what we call the Catholic Church; Same Bible! I recon that makes it God’s Catholic Bible

The Greeks that contributed to the bibles authorship were at the time, what we call today Catholic!

 

[holy_moly]

Evidently not or there would have been no break away.

It is a fallacy to presume that those that ‘break away’ are correct. So now, which one of the over 30,000 protestant sects/denominations is correct?

Christianity Today - General Statistics and Facts of Christianity …
Number of Christian Denominations. There are approximately 38000 Christian denominations in the world. Gordon-Conwell Theological Seminary (2006) …
christianity.about.com/od/denominations/p/christia…

Shalom,
Jim

 

[christopherdere]

It isn’t a “claim” it is historical fact. The split between the Orthodox and the Roman Catholic church occured because of a dispute over where the Chair of St. Peter would be. The Orthodox church still claims to be decended from St. Peter, to St. Linus, etc… until Constantine allowed the Orthodox church to establish their Holy See in Constantinople while the Roman Church remained in Rome and then Vatican City. The separation was not over what books were included in the Bible. The separation started well after the canon of the Bible was established and historically wasn’t a complete separation until 1052 AD with the canon of the Eastern Orthodox Bible being finalized in 1672 with the addition of the following:

Orthodox: Prayer of Manasseh · 1 Esdras · 2 Esdras · Orthodox: 3 Maccabees · 4 Maccabees · Odes · Psalm 151 · Syriac Peshitta only: 2 Baruch · Psalms 152–155 · Ethiopian Orthodox only: 4 Baruch · Enoch · Jubilees · 1-3 Meqabyan

The Protestant canon was established in the mid 1500’s which removed 5 books of the Old Testament and almost removed Revelation and several of the Epistles.

This is historical fact.

Thanks for the valuable information sharing.

 

[Memaw]

This is a NO BRAINER!

The Bible is Older than The GO Church, BUT NOT OLDER than what we call the Catholic Church; Same Bible! I recon that makes it God’s Catholic Bible

The Greeks that contributed to the bibles authorship were at the time, what we call today Catholic!

And the Christians were called Catholic before the year 107 AD. We have it in writing as early as that from St. Ignatius Bishop of Antioch. In 110, he wrote, in a Letter to the Smyrnaeans, “Wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the Catholic Church.”
He also wrote, in a Letter to the Romans, in 110, “I have no taste for corruptible food nor for pleasures of this life. I desire the Bread of God, which is the Flesh of Jesus Christ, who is the seed of David; and for drink, I desire His Blood, which is Love incorruptible.” Read the "Faith of the Early Fathers, 3 Vol. set, by William A. Jurgens.
The word Catholic means Universal. And what other Church teaches the same doctrine all over the world with the successor of Peter as its leader. God Bless, Memaw