Who here in the US is actively pro-life?

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Father Peter West from Priests for life has been at our Parish this weekend and it was over and beyond our expectations:clapping: How many here are interested in finding out more?:hmmm:
 
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Lisa4Catholics:
Father Peter West from Priests for life has been at our Parish this weekend and it was over and beyond our expectations:clapping: How many here are interested in finding out more?:hmmm:
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**OK, I’ll bite.😃 **
 
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Oh it was wonderful:clapping: He spoke to students at three different schools Friday! He Presided over Benediction for first Friday.Saturday he gave an all day retreat from the unborn to euthanasia where he went into the Terri Schiavo case and told the TRUTH and told us what Terri went through and what Father Pavone witnessed and he said in all the years Father Pavone has been a priest he has never witnessed something so horrible and he will never forget the HORROR in Terris face as she was in her death throws:mad: Father west said we must NEVER let this happen again!!! He did the Homilies at all the Masses, and was confronted by a physician that deals with end of life issues and he told him that other priests said that it was fine to remove that tube and he eloquantly told him what POPE JOHN PAUL II said and he shut up!!!I would recommend that all involved in pro-life get one of the Priest to come to your parish:clapping:
 
Right after the deaths of Terri Schiavo and Pope John Paul II, and before the election of Pope Benedict XVI, the priest at my parish said something in a homily which led me to point out after Mass what the Church actually teaches.

The priest started out by commenting on how bad it makes us feel if we run over a squirrel by accident. From there, he made an astonishing leap to the statement that “Terri Schiavo’s situation leaves us in a quandary about what to do in such cases.”

On hearing this, I felt that in good conscience I could not leave the church premises without stating, calmly and quietly but very much in public, what the Catholic Church’s stand actually is.

So as the priest stood shaking hands just outside the church door after Mass, I uttered three simple sentences to him: “The Vatican being pro-life has taken the position of defending Terri Schiavo’s right to life. Pope John Paul II clearly stated that Terri should continue to be provided with nutrition and hydration through a feeding tube. There is no quandary.”

It was all the priest could do to smile and nod nervously while saying shortly, "Yes … yes … yes … " to acknowledge the truth of my … er, the Catholic Church’s … statements.

~~ the phoenix
 
:clapping: Good for you Phoenix!! I applaud your moxy! When I encounter such bad homilies I usually find that I am unable to approach the priest. The situation has gotten so out of hand at our parish that we are leaving!

I can’t wait until Fr. Pavone gets his new order started!! I hope he saturates the US and the whole world with genuine, orthodox, Pro-Life Priests!!
 
the phoenix:
Right after the deaths of Terri Schiavo and Pope John Paul II, and before the election of Pope Benedict XVI, the priest at my parish said something in a homily which led me to point out after Mass what the Church actually teaches.

The priest started out by commenting on how bad it makes us feel if we run over a squirrel by accident. From there, he made an astonishing leap to the statement that “Terri Schiavo’s situation leaves us in a quandary about what to do in such cases.”

On hearing this, I felt that in good conscience I could not leave the church premises without stating, calmly and quietly but very much in public, what the Catholic Church’s stand actually is.

So as the priest stood shaking hands just outside the church door after Mass, I uttered three simple sentences to him: “The Vatican being pro-life has taken the position of defending Terri Schiavo’s right to life. Pope John Paul II clearly stated that Terri should continue to be provided with nutrition and hydration through a feeding tube. There is no quandary.”

It was all the priest could do to smile and nod nervously while saying shortly, "Yes … yes … yes … " to acknowledge the truth of my … er, the Catholic Church’s … statements.

~~ the phoenix
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legeorge said:
:clapping: Good for you Phoenix!! I applaud your moxy! When I encounter such bad homilies I usually find that I am unable to approach the priest. The situation has gotten so out of hand at our parish that we are leaving!

I can’t wait until Fr. Pavone gets his new order started!! I hope he saturates the US and the whole world with genuine, orthodox, Pro-Life Priests!!
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Priests for life will ALSO be training lay people across the country to assist them.
 
Thank you both, Lori and Lisa!

In normal life I’m quite the introvert, but when it comes to speaking out to defend life, those who intend to flame me will find that as a phoenix, what they will accomplish instead is to provide me with a strengthening fuel.

In fact, after I approached the priest, an old couple overhearing me and wishing perhaps to shame me into silence by peer pressure, one said to the other, “What’s that about, dear?” and the other replied, "I dunno, I think she was saying something to the priest … " using a tone of voice meant to convey disparagement and disapproval of my behavior.

So I took two steps over to that couple and said to them, “Yes, I was defending Terri Schiavo’s right to life.” That left them speechless, and with that, I left them on their way and went on out to my car in the parking lot.

I am also seeking a new parish in NE Ohio, for a combination of reasons.

~~ the phoenix
 
the phoenix:
Thank you both, Lori and Lisa!

In normal life I’m quite the introvert, but when it comes to speaking out to defend life, those who intend to flame me will find that as a phoenix, what they will accomplish instead is to provide me with a strengthening fuel.

In fact, after I approached the priest, an old couple overhearing me and wishing perhaps to shame me into silence by peer pressure, one said to the other, “What’s that about, dear?” and the other replied, "I dunno, I think she was saying something to the priest … " using a tone of voice meant to convey disparagement and disapproval of my behavior.

So I took two steps over to that couple and said to them, “Yes, I was defending Terri Schiavo’s right to life.” That left them speechless, and with that, I left them on their way and went on out to my car in the parking lot.

I am also seeking a new parish in NE Ohio, for a combination of reasons.

~~ the phoenix
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I encountered something similar in my old parish, when I complained to one of the nuns (a principal in the Catholic grammar school) about the weekly bulletin having all kinds of coverage of the social justice committee but nothing ever about the pro-life activities which to me seemed all about human rights and social justice. She disagreed, saying nothing untoward was intended by the fact that the bulletin never had pro-life info and said that there is an active pro life committee in the parish that I could get in touch with. I said how would anyone know it exists if the weekly bulletin said nothing about it. She kept defending the practice in response to my concerns that the parish wasn’t serious about being pro-life (since I never heard a sermon on topic in 5 years at the parish) and an older nun who was behind her and out of her sight shook her head in agreement. Coincidentally, a few weeks after that and thereafter, the weekly bulletin contained a blurb on the pro-life committee together with contact numbers.
 
the phoenix:
I am also seeking a new parish in NE Ohio, for a combination of reasons.

~~ the phoenix
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We are so discouraged by the lukewarmness around here, we are probably going to end up at a Traditional Latin parish @ 20 minutes away. I really want my kids to have a good religious education, and I am afraid I just don’t trust most catholic churches around here anymore. I know I shouldn’t feel that way, and I feel bad about it, but I can’t make myself trust another parish that I feel will end up just like the last one. I need a serious change and the only solutions I feel like I have are the traditional latin parish or the Maronite. Neither is ideal, but I feel I have limited choices where we live. We are unfamiliar with the Latin, and my husband doesn’t want to switch rites (that would be my first choice though). So, no matter what we do, it will be a compromise. I wish I didn’t have to feel this way. I wish I could walk into any local parish and know that they were orthodox and true to the teachings of the church, without a doubt. Then I wouldn’t have to “church shop” like some protestant (no offense to protestants).
 
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swampfox:
I encountered something similar in my old parish, when I complained to one of the nuns (a principal in the Catholic grammar school) about the weekly bulletin having all kinds of coverage of the social justice committee but nothing ever about the pro-life activities which to me seemed all about human rights and social justice. She disagreed, saying nothing untoward was intended by the fact that the bulletin never had pro-life info and said that there is an active pro life committee in the parish that I could get in touch with. I said how would anyone know it exists if the weekly bulletin said nothing about it. She kept defending the practice in response to my concerns that the parish wasn’t serious about being pro-life (since I never heard a sermon on topic in 5 years at the parish) and an older nun who was behind her and out of her sight shook her head in agreement. Coincidentally, a few weeks after that and thereafter, the weekly bulletin contained a blurb on the pro-life committee together with contact numbers.
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:clapping: Good for you too!! If it wasn’t for my kids, I would try to stay at our current parish and try to be a catalyst for change! Keep up the good work!
 
Yay, swampfox!

Go team!! 🙂

There will always be opposition to doing the right thing. It’s heartening to hear that you’re fighting the good fight, and in fact being blessed by seeing some concrete results!

We used to have an awesome pastor at my church. When President Clinton was coming to town and was going to be speaking at a college diagonally across the street, here’s part of the homily that was given:

"Our parish, being pro-life, will respond to Clinton’s visit in several ways:
  1. There will be a display of crosses commemorating the aborted unborn set up on the front lawn of the parish.
  2. From the moment of Clinton’s arrival and during the entire length of his stay, we shall toll the funeral bell in memory of the unborn.
  3. Our school children, instead of attending classes during the morning of Clinton’s visit, shall instead attend a special Mass where they will all be encouraged to pray for Clinton’s conversion … as all of us attending this Mass are encouraged to pray for the same intention."
What an awesome priest we were blessed with back then! He’s now retired, and in poor health. Any prayers anyone here would like to send his way would be a fitting reward.

~~ the phoenix
 
Dear Lori,

I live within @ a 40-minute drive from a parish with an indult Latin Mass fully approved by the bishop and the Vatican. Depending on how bad the snowstorms are and whether the highway is closed for repairs over the weekend (this is Northeast Ohio after all, and this has actually happened) … I find that church downtown a wonderfully spiritual haven. They used to alternate High Mass with Low Mass, but after 9/11, every Sunday is a Latin High Mass.

When it comes to the Pope, I am like (though nowhere near as perfectly of course!) the Fatima seer Jacinta in my childlike obedience, respectful loyalty, and loving affection for him. I really hope that your new parish will be faithful to Rome and not a Traditional one not in full communion with the Vatican!

As for finding trustworthy religious training for your children, there are definitely options worth seeking out. In my case, my mother pulled me out of the Catholic school system in the 6th grade. I was transferred to a public school, while mom taught me the Catholic Faith herself, including all the required preparation so that I could be confirmed along with the other students learning religion in Catholic schools or CCD programs.

To bring this post back to the pro-life theme of this thread in a way that encompasses us at whatever age we are in life, Jesus came so we might have life, and have it more abundantly. It is this gift of Himself to us in Holy Communion that enables me most abundantly to stand firm on Peter’s Rock in the midst of lukewarm waters.

May the Lord bring you soon to a safe harbor, 🙂

~~ the phoenix
 
Phoenix, I am also very loyal to the Pope. I consider myself part of the JPII generation! And I was ecstatic when Pope Benedict was named. The Traditional parish we are considering is in full communion with the Pope. I know of an SSPX chapel nearby and know people who go there. They are part of my prayer group in front of the abortion clinic. They are always trying to get me to see things their way, but I just could never do that.

It sounds like you had a wonderful ex-priest. I wish I could have known him. I will remember him in my prayers. As long as we are praying for priests, could everyone please keep a Fr. Witt in their prayers? He began the prayer group I belong to which prays in front of the abortion clinic twice a week. He went to Florida during the Terri Schaivo ordeal and wore himself out with standing out in the hot sun for hours on end and extreme fasting. His health has not improved, even after a lengthy hospital stay, and we are afraid he is not going to get better. He is a pro-life rock!
 
Hi Lisa,

Thanks for the info. I have gone to the abortion mill every Saturday for 2 years now.

Father Pavone will be in Charlotte on Oct. 13. I met him once and am really looking forward to his visit.

Please keep inspiring us.

Chris
 
You know, Lori,

There’s a good chance we’re neighbors. Either that, or it’s just a coincidence about two Ohioans like us being close to a Vatican-approved Latin Mass, an SSPX chapel, and a prayer group in front of an abortion clinic.

Thanks for remembering my retired pastor (Fr. Costello) in your prayers … am happy to return the favor and pray for Fr. Witt, who from your testimony has done his utmost to defend innocent life.

~~ the phoenix
 
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swampfox:
I encountered something similar in my old parish, when I complained to one of the nuns (a principal in the Catholic grammar school) about the weekly bulletin having all kinds of coverage of the social justice committee but nothing ever about the pro-life activities which to me seemed all about human rights and social justice. She disagreed, saying nothing untoward was intended by the fact that the bulletin never had pro-life info and said that there is an active pro life committee in the parish that I could get in touch with. I said how would anyone know it exists if the weekly bulletin said nothing about it. She kept defending the practice in response to my concerns that the parish wasn’t serious about being pro-life (since I never heard a sermon on topic in 5 years at the parish) and an older nun who was behind her and out of her sight shook her head in agreement. Coincidentally, a few weeks after that and thereafter, the weekly bulletin contained a blurb on the pro-life committee together with contact numbers.
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Way to go Swampfox!:clapping:
 
I ask your prayers for our Priest and our Bishop, this was sent to one of our Respect life committee members.One week after Father Peter West there was an insert put in our bulletin from 1997 that contradicts what our late Holy Father said about food and hydration not being extra ordinary means:mad: The writer was rightly disturbed about this, he teaches at a Catholic College here and knows full well what Pope John Paul II said. Now, our priest allowed us to give out CA’s voters guides and a lawyer at our parish raised cain with the Bishop and banned the voters guide and made him give out the Mary Knoll voters guide(AKA SMOKESCREEN GUIDE)! A doctor confronted Father West about what he said about Terri and I have a feeling something similar is going on here!:mad: Any comments the Vatican has made as well as what the Pope said regarding feeding tubes and food and hydration would be helpful, it looks like we are being sabbataged!:mad: :banghead:I have the link of the talk the Pope gave any more recent statements would be helpful, there is going to be confusion about the Church teaching on this!!!
 
the phoenix:
You know, Lori,

There’s a good chance we’re neighbors. Either that, or it’s just a coincidence about two Ohioans like us being close to a Vatican-approved Latin Mass, an SSPX chapel, and a prayer group in front of an abortion clinic.

Thanks for remembering my retired pastor (Fr. Costello) in your prayers … am happy to return the favor and pray for Fr. Witt, who from your testimony has done his utmost to defend innocent life.

~~ the phoenix
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Well, I live in Trumbull County and belong to the Diocese of Youngstown. We attend Mass at the Shrine of Our Lady of Lebanon almost every Sunday now that we are “in between” parishes. Sound any bells?? I love to meet neighbors on here! Especially since, in this part of the country, being a faithful Catholic can put you in the extreme minority and make for some lonesome times.
 
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legeorge:
Well, I live in Trumbull County and belong to the Diocese of Youngstown. We attend Mass at the Shrine of Our Lady of Lebanon almost every Sunday now that we are “in between” parishes. Sound any bells?? I love to meet neighbors on here! Especially since, in this part of the country, being a faithful Catholic can put you in the extreme minority and make for some lonesome times.
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Yes indeed.
 
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