Who is the One Jesus said is the ONLY true God?

[HarryStotle]

HarryStotle:

No mention of Jehovah in ancient texts,

Koine Grewek, at THAT time, didn’t have a version of God’s Name- so the Jews wrote it in Hebrew in this early Septuagint, the version Jesus read from.

Only a Trinitrarian would think he read “LORD” instead of “Jehovah/Yehovah”…

So your claim is that Jesus read in Koine Greek in the synagogue?

There is strong evidence that any liturgical use of the Old Testament was restricted to Hebrew, not Aramaic or Greek.

http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Jesus_Hebrew/jesus_hebrew.html

Are you claiming that the Greek version of Jehovah (Ιεχωβά) is found on that fragment or the Hebrew יְהֹוָה‬ ?

I don’t see either one.

Or what precisely is the black arrow pointing to?

Besides, looking at your image of the manuscript in higher resolution it appears to me that some manipulation has occurred. There are what looks to be some anomalies in the image which need to be looked at more closely.

(Please Note: This uploaded content is no longer available.)

Where did you get that digital copy and which original MSS scroll or papyrus was it from?

 

[theMadJW]

The Septuagint was in GREEK, God’s Name in ancient Hebrew characters.
Whether Jesus READ it as Greek, or translated it into Hebrew as he spoke is not specified.

 

[angelic06]

Yes, you choose to add your own definitions, I do not.

As do you, especially the one regarding death, either here or in the other thread you started.

 

[Fauken]

It doesn’t matter. This is a theological discussion. So I am naturally using theological terms.

 

[theMadJW]

TOPIC, anyone?

 

[Fauken]

Fair enough.

If you’re correct and Jesus is a creation, He cannot simultaneously have and not have a beginning. On what biblical basis do you base your definition of begotten? On what biblical basis do you claim begotten and made are synonyms?

 

[HarryStotle]

The Septuagint was in GREEK, God’s Name in ancient Hebrew characters.
Whether Jesus READ it as Greek, or translated it into Hebrew as he spoke is not specified.

I don’t see Hebrew there. Looks more like Greek with some indiscernible characters.

What, exactly are you proposing is being spelled out?

 

[Fauken]

I should also explain why there’s still a contradiction if begotten means birth like you say.

I’ll start with myself as an example. I am a child of my parents. I look and act a lot like my dad, but I still have traits from my mom. My parents both beget me. I share in their traits and my humanity is from them. Otherwise I wouldn’t be their child.

Do you see where I’m going?

Is it not my parents nature to be human?

Is it not God’s nature to be God?

But Jesus was apparently begotten from God without sharing anything from Him, or at least anything of God’s nature, which would not make sense. How could someone be begotten without sharing anything with their parent(s)? If Jesus then is truly begotten by God, then He shares in His divinity. If He does not, then He is not begotten by God.

 

[adf417]

adf417:

Makes one wonder why they give so much credence to the name Jehovah?

Peace!!!

I guess your boss shouldn’t sign HIS name on your check…

I guess you missed the part where i quoted from your own document - “Since certainity of pronunciation is not now attainable…”

But hey, its your conundrum. :man_shrugging:t3: