Who told you that you were naked?

[mark_a]

I’m unsure how the above fits with the rest of the fall. I’m particularly intrigued by the bold parts below. Any ideas?

5 1 No, God knows well that the moment you eat of it your eyes will be opened and you will be like gods who know what is good and what is bad." 6 The woman saw that the tree was good for food, pleasing to the eyes, and desirable for gaining wisdom. So she took some of its fruit and ate it; and she also gave some to her husband, who was with her, and he ate it. 7 Then the eyes of both of them were opened, and they realized that they were naked; so they sewed fig leaves together and made loincloths for themselves. 8 2 When they heard the sound of the LORD God moving about in the garden at the breezy time of the day, the man and his wife hid themselves from the LORD God among the trees of the garden. 9 The LORD God then called to the man and asked him, “Where are you?” 10 He answered, “I heard you in the garden; but I was afraid, because I was naked, so I hid myself.” 11 Then he asked, "Who told you that you were naked? You have eaten, then, from the tree of which I had forbidden you to eat!"

 

[Fergal]

I have exactly what you are looking for but I will leave this to the one who has revealed to us the Theology of the Body!

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Meaning of Original Human Experiences
Pope John Paul II
GENERAL AUDIENCE OF 12 DECEMBER In the General Audience of 12 December the Holy Father resumed his catechesis on the Book of Genesis in the following discourse.

Click on ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/jp2tb11.htm for the document.

 

[mark_a]

I have exactly what you are looking for but I will leave this to the one who has revealed to us the Theology of the Body!

Meaning of Original Human Experiences
Pope John Paul II
GENERAL AUDIENCE OF 12 DECEMBER In the General Audience of 12 December the Holy Father resumed his catechesis on the Book of Genesis in the following discourse.

Click on ewtn.com/library/PAPALDOC/jp2tb11.htm for the document.

Thank you for the link. Its very deep stuff and I will need to read it another 20 or 30 times.

 

[Brian_Millar]

That makes sense, it’s the correlation between the two states of conciecness, where it originally explains how man was naked yet not ashamed, it clearly shows the state of mind man was in, then the post state of mind where he was ashamed of his nakedness, clearly shows his state has changed obviously and thus condemmed for having transgressed.

The original context makes no real sense without the secondary one, this is what I derrived from that link so am putting it in laymens terms.

 

[mark_a]

That makes sense, it’s the correlation between the two states of conciecness, where it originally explains how man was naked yet not ashamed, it clearly shows the state of mind man was in, then the post state of mind where he was ashamed of his nakedness, clearly shows his state has changed obviously and thus condemmed for having transgressed.

The original context makes no real sense without the secondary one, this is what I derrived from that link so am putting it in laymens terms.

I’m curious about the “who” in “who told you that you were naked?” Is the “who” part of the statement important?

Would the meaning change if God had asked one of the following:

Why are you naked?
What makes you think you’re naked?
How did you become naked?
When did you become naked?
Where exactly are you naked?

 

[Brian_Millar]

Who could mean that he knew full well the serpent was to do this thing, but I think it likley means that he’s referencing Adam’s statement, knowing full well, Adam was now aware of the fact that he was naked and now is expressing it, it was they who said they were naked revealing the truth as to what happened.

What I find interesting here, it seems that God knew full well exactly when this happened, that his questioning was to see if they would continue to transgress and try to cover up their shame with a lie.

Now, here is something I gotta ponder, they covered up their bodies with garmets made of fig leaves, if this is the case, then they were not actually naked, and maby this is not talking about the physical form of nakedness, but the spiritual one.

 

[v3orb]

Literally I think that since they lost their concupiscence at the fall they now could be tempted by the flesh and not just by the devil or pride, so they realized their nakedness in a fully sexual way…

 

[SpiritMeadow]

It suggests the following to me:

Humans, when they keep their eyes fixed on God, live in God and view the world as God does, and in a manner that God finds pleasing. When humans lose that focus, they view the world as humans do. Nakedness was not sinful of course to God. Yet it is to us now. We should understand that when our eyes are focused on the world, then we lose that all important focus on God alone. The consequences, we are warned, can be heavy and hard. I believer the writer used a wonderful way to illustrate this deeply meaningful statement about God.