Why 1 in 10 new priests in the US come from homeschooling families

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I personally know of two religious communities in which the majority of sisters were homeschooled. I don’t mean to apply this to all communities, but rather to show that a lot of homeschoolers are answering the call.
 
Homeschoolers make up around 3-5% of students by state.

That would mean that they are only twice as likely to enter the seminary than the ordinary public or private student.

The article is incredibly demeaning. NH has nearly no rules for homeschooling so it’s a homeschooling heavy state. I have friends in NH. There are cities where homeschooling is so prevalent that the libraries and community centers are basically overrun by homeschoolers from noon to around 4. State orgs, private tutoring centers, etc. One subscription to an area homeschool group and there is literally so much to do for homeschoolers from sunrise to sun set you could do these activities all day and never touch a textbook. My friend was a homeschooler in NH and did a few state-park programs for homeschoolers. They opened SIX sessions (50 participants a pop) as they kept filling within days. She’s in Mass now and she said while it’s similar it’s not quite as “bad”

New England, in general, is pretty homeschool friendly.

Isolation tends to happen more in homeschool unfriendly states like California where parents are not allowed public resources (like schools and testing) and seen as pariahs. They tend to become insular because they feel persecuted.

Quite frankly the tone of the article is disgusting. You’d have to take great pains not to be active in the homeschooling world today. Homeschooling for most children is a complete misnomer as they do field trips, co-ops, take classes in art and gym during elementary school in public schools and math, science, etc in upper grades.
 
I’d have to disagree. While some of that may exist, in my Catholic homeschooling circle, almost everyone is enrolled in a program and must submit homework, quizzes, tests, projects, etc. Families cannot be going hither and yon and expect to complete the program. It’s simply impossible. Those who aren’t enrolled chose that because they wanted to be more vigorous in certain subjects, such as Latin or the classics. We took one field trip this year to see the solar eclipse. Just because a homeschool group offers a lot of choices doesn’t mean that a homeschooling family is attending each event. Standardized tests shows there’s more learning going on in homeschools than there are in public and even private schools.
 
I’d have to disagree. While some of that may exist, in my Catholic homeschooling circle, almost everyone is enrolled in a program and must submit homework, quizzes, tests, projects, etc. Families cannot be going hither and yon and expect to complete the program. It’s simply impossible. Those who aren’t enrolled chose that because they wanted to be more vigorous in certain subjects, such as Latin or the classics. We took one field trip this year to see the solar eclipse. Just because a homeschool group offers a lot of choices doesn’t mean that a homeschooling family is attending each event. Standardized tests shows there’s more learning going on in homeschools than there are in public and even private schools.
I’ve homeschooled using Seton with a middle schooler. It’s intense but no reason not to get out and do things. We went to a monthly science class, 2 weekly library game meetups (one with other homeschoolers, another with a mixed group). She did a lunch’n’learn co-op as well as a day-long trip every month.

It’s not impossible and my niece even had learning disabilities. I had two other non-school-aged children at the time.

There’s just no excuse for sequestering a child at home. We met plenty of other curriculum users who were also Catholic. From Seton to Mother of Divine Grace to Kolbe and quite a few Chrisitian A-Becka and Sun-Rise.

It’s too bad you can’t do that for your family but being active isn’t uncommon.
 
There’s a connection between doctrine and vocations. The parochial schools my kids attended were very weak on doctrinal content. Nothing was said to be definitely true or false, right or wrong. Everything is subjective, or relative. A few teachers did sneak in some doctrine here and there, almost on the sly.

We started a classical Catholic high school, and we already are seeing a few vocations. We are very similar to the home schooling group. They have vocations too

Our bishop is good, encouraged us and the home schoolers. But the liberals have a stranglehold on the local official Catholic schools. They won’t change. They have few vocations.
 
Depends on where you live, though.
Could not be more true.

In the Northeast US, Northwest US and in major cities in the southwest, the schools tend to be fairly good. In all cases, you tend to need not to be inner city or first nations.

ANY school tends to only be as good as the parents involved.
 
Ineteresting. People say that here too. They are not. The results are awful, but for those kids who have parent that take an interest, and do their work, they actually do really well. Where I live my children did quite well, in the public schools and then college. We worked at it. Hard.
 
There’s a connection between doctrine and vocations. The parochial schools my kids attended were very weak on doctrinal content. Nothing was said to be definitely true or false, right or wrong. Everything is subjective, or relative. A few teachers did sneak in some doctrine here and there, almost on the sly.

We started a classical Catholic high school, and we already are seeing a few vocations. We are very similar to the home schooling group. They have vocations too

Our bishop is good, encouraged us and the home schoolers. But the liberals have a stranglehold on the local official Catholic schools. They won’t change. They have few vocations.
But again given all that 1 in 10 is not that great when this article is from a state where 1 in 20 (about 5%) of children are homeschooled. That’s simply twice the number of typical vocations. Given that Christian homeschoolers make up the majority of homeschoolers in New England but believers tend to be a minority in society, the demographics are in favor of vocations from such a self-selecting group.
 
Oh, I get it! I thought you were saying homeschoolers were so busy that there is no schooling happening. We don’t get out for field trips or other educational events, however, we are very involved in the parish, so we are social.

Still, twice the rate is significant. One would hope that we could see a percentage closer to what was once considered normal. However, I think that in the next generation of homeschoolers, we will see this rate continue to increase.

I think homeschooling is only one part of the equation, however, and I think that a healthy parish environment is absolutely essential. In our little Latin Mass community of 80 people, we have had a vocation a year (this year two!) for the past 5 years. That’s a pretty big percentage. Where you have Adoration, processions and devout Masses, there will be vocations.
 
Oh, I get it! I thought you were saying homeschoolers were so busy that there is no schooling happening. We don’t get out for field trips or other educational events, however, we are very involved in the parish, so we are social.

Still, twice the rate is significant. One would hope that we could see a percentage closer to what was once considered normal. However, I think that in the next generation of homeschoolers, we will see this rate continue to increase.

I think homeschooling is only one part of the equation, however, and I think that a healthy parish environment is absolutely essential. In our little Latin Mass community of 80 people, we have had a vocation a year (this year two!) for the past 5 years. That’s a pretty big percentage. Where you have Adoration, processions and devout Masses, there will be vocations.
Well, it’d be incorrect to say that using every opportunity would have no learning. I have a background in education and could quite easily put together a complete curriculum-based solely around activities. Now, this wouldn’t fit our needs, but it is possible. Just the monthly science/ecology class alone would have been more than enough to turn into an entire years’ worth of middle school learning.

It’s funny because in Boston–where I know Seminarians-- everyone under 30 who was raised in America had been active in Lifeteen. So you’re right. Community is important. Latin–not so much.

I think the more traditionalists tend to go to non-diocesan vocations.

I’m saying that twice is not that surprising given all other factors… a high number of homeschoolers in the state/area, a high number of Christians and Catholics among homeschoolers (far higher than in general society) and actively participating, parents. Given all of these factors, I’d actually expect much better rate.

Non-diocesan Catholic schools also seem to be cranking out the vocations, too.
 
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Yes, traditionalists do tend to enter orders rather than being ordained for a diocese, so their numbers don’t show up in this article. I just used that as an example of the parish environment being so important in men and women pursuing vocations. Homeschooling just reinforces what happens in the parish; we don’t live in a vacuum.
 
Yes, traditionalists do tend to enter orders rather than being ordained for a diocese, so their numbers don’t show up in this article. I just used that as an example of the parish environment being so important in men and women pursuing vocations. Homeschooling just reinforces what happens in the parish; we don’t live in a vacuum.
The parish is important, but my point is that:

Homeschooled in the state in the article is nearing or above 5%. This is a significant portion of the population.

Self-identifying Catholocism in the state is at about 20% ( but practicing Catholics defined as weekly Mass attendance) is very, very low sub 5% of that 20% according to CARA studies.

Vocational behavior, however, is a tradition (from Shakers to protestant preachers) in New England.

Homeschoolers in New England are 4 times as likely to follow an organized religion than the general population. Keep in mind that this is one of the biggest divergent populations in the nation besides pockets of California.

Nearly all vocations stem from children who had involved parents who sought out religious and educational opportunities.
 
“Nearly all vocations stem from children who had involved parents who sought out religious and educational opportunities.”"
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I agree parents are a big factor, but so is curriculum. Lots of very involved parents sent their kids to schools with liberal religious education programs, and there were few vocations.

I suspect if home schoolers had been using Sadlier, Silver Burdette, Benzinger, or the other cotton candy religious education programs my kids had in school, you would have seen few vocations from home schoolers, too.
 
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I agree parents are a big factor, but so is curriculum. Lots of very involved parents sent their kids to schools with liberal religious education programs, and there were few vocations.

I suspect if home schoolers had been using Sadlier, Silver Burdette, Benzinger, or the other cotton candy religious education programs my kids had in school, you would have seen few vocations from home schoolers, too.
I’m just about to turn 40. I was not Catholic as a child, but evangelical Protestant (entered the Church as an adult). As a result, I had some intense Sunday School and VBS and Wednesday Bible studies etc. I can tell you that the quality of the religious education I received as an evangelical child was far beyond the quality of the religious education my cradle-Catholic friends were receiving at the time. My best friend, who’s the same age as me, recently found her 2nd grade 1st Communion prep book. And it’s terrible. Doesn’t even talk about the Real Presence one bit. It’s all just, sharing in Communion is how we show that we are all God’s children, it’s a community meal, etc. etc. In 6th or 7th grade CCD this same friend was taught about reincarnation – although at least that wasn’t in the diocesan-approved book…
 
“Nearly all vocations stem from children who had involved parents who sought out religious and educational opportunities.”"
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I agree parents are a big factor, but so is curriculum. Lots of very involved parents sent their kids to schools with liberal religious education programs, and there were few vocations.

I suspect if home schoolers had been using Sadlier, Silver Burdette, Benzinger, or the other cotton candy religious education programs my kids had in school, you would have seen few vocations from home schoolers, too.
It isn’t about the curriculum.

You can sit down with Baltimore Chatecism and come up with funny ideas. Children need guidance.

Lifeteen is not a vocations funnel but it’s a major source of vocations today. Why? Because adults take a vested interest in helping teens learn. They give them leaping off points. They discuss points of interest and help them unfold.

You can’t just slap a solid curriculum in the hands of a teacher who has a classroom of 25 disinterested kids a dozen times a year and get good results.
 
Homeschooling for most children is a complete misnomer as they do field trips, co-ops, take classes in art and gym during elementary school in public schools and math, science, etc in upper grades.
The homeschooled children I see standout so much they are kinda easy to spot. They are well behaved. They are more engaged in whatever situation I see them. They follow the conversations, they respond, they have interesting comments. They are more mature, more able to participate in an adult setting. These are still kids, but they already possess more of the traits we expect to see in an educated person.

And, in part it is because of what you said. These are the children who have had more, not less, involvement in the outside world and different learning situations. A family-based fully comprehensive education is becoming easier for parents to provide their children.

I support the movement as much as I can.
 
Non-diocesan Catholic schools also seem to be cranking out the vocations, too.
I was dissatisfied with the standard religious programs in our Phoenix diocesan schools. My kids have been to three different diocese schools. BUT, I will say that the first diocese school they were in also included an added Atrium program. This program had a teacher who specialized in Atrium RE and taught all of the grades. This had a major influence on my children’s knowledge and interest in their faith, and I am eternally thankful for that teacher and the program.

I’ve noticed that many of my fellow alumni from my diocesan high school have rebelled against their faith. If catechism is weak, and doesn’t take a stand, the effects are worse than no catechesis at all, I believe. As Fulton Sheen said, “If you want your children to fight for their faith, send them to public school. If you want them to lose their faith, send them to Catholic school.” Of course, I believe intimate parental dialogue on the faith, especially in the teen years, is SO essential.
 
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Are Catholic schools really that bad today? My parish’s school produced four students who are now newly ordained priests and two of whom are deacons. One of whom has been assigned as parochial vicar of the parish.
 
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