Why All Gays Should Be Pro-Life

[RyanL]

The typical Gay advocate I encounter these days usually insists that same sex attraction is a genetic predisposition over which they have no control, colloquially asserted as “the way God made them.”

There’s no science to support this, but that’s not the point. For this argument, I’ll readily concede the point.

Pre-Implantation Genetic Diagnosis (PGD) is a growing practice in the IVF community. Currently, it’s used to screen embryos with genetic anomalies like Down’s syndrome, but it’s also increasingly being used for sex selection. In fact, some IFV clinics make it a selling point. With more and more fertile couples seeking IVF in order to have increased control over their genetic progeny, it’s likely to become an even more widespread procedure in the near future.

Since the law currently holds that mothers have an absolute right over whether or not to terminate a pregnancy through abortion, there is no law in place to prevent aborting for any reason. If a mother’s mental health might be affected by carrying the pregnancy to term, no restriction may be placed on obtaining the abortion. (BTW, this is true all the way until delivery - see Planned Parenthood v. Casey). This would include the mental stress of having a potentially Gay child.

IF same sex attraction is found to be linked to a genetic difference (or even a detectable neurological condition) among affected individuals, there is nothing to stop the selective abortion of potentially “Gay” children. They can be “screened out”, just like every other genetically abnormal “potential child”.

The only thing to stop the* in vitro* genocide of “potential Gays” is for the GLBT community (and the rest of us) to take a hard-line stance on the personhood of an embryo/foetus, and immediately call for restrictions to be placed on abortion from the fertilization stage all the way through delivery. Naturally, this would entail an overruling of Roe v. Wade.

Has anyone in the GLBT community thought of this?

God Bless,
RyanL

 

[mattjtayl]

The typical Gay advocate I encounter these days usually insists that same sex attraction is a genetic predisposition over which they have no control, colloquially asserted as “the way God made them.”

While I do believe in some cases this may be the case, most people I think are somewhere between straight and gay. I believe many gays are also attracted to the opposite sex, even though they deny it. I think many of these in-between gays have a choice to make do they want to be straight or gay, this is a voluntarily decision that is not out of their control. I think most gay guys think if they find other guys attractive or sexy, then they are abnormal and they therefore must be gay. As a guy I often think “if I had a body like that imagine all the girls I would get.” I reconize the guy as being physically attractive and envey his sex appeal to the opposite sex, but I don’t think that means I am gay.

Some people enjoy being rejected in society, they want to be different than everyone else. So some choose to be gay just for the shock effect. They enjoy shocking people and enjoy all the attention, wether good or bad, they recieve from publically declaring they are gay.

If gays decided to have abortions in the United States I would be embarresed to be an American citizen; a little too whacky for me. Artificial incemination and gay pregnacies are not what nature intended.

Logically what would they come up with next? Artificially inceminating your dog or cat? Would a chemical imbalance in the brain justify the immoral act of having sex with animals?

 

[detrockcity3]

The typical Gay advocate I encounter these days usually insists that same sex attraction is a genetic predisposition over which they have no control, colloquially asserted as “the way God made them.”

There’s no science to support this, but that’s not the point. For this argument, I’ll readily concede the point.

Pre-Implantation Genetic Diagnosis (PGD) is a growing practice in the IVF community. Currently, it’s used to screen embryos with genetic anomalies like Down’s syndrome, but it’s also increasingly being used for sex selection. In fact, some IFV clinics make it a selling point. With more and more fertile couples seeking IVF in order to have increased control over their genetic progeny, it’s likely to become an even more widespread procedure in the near future.

Since the law currently holds that mothers have an absolute right over whether or not to terminate a pregnancy through abortion, there is no law in place to prevent aborting for any reason. If a mother’s mental health might be affected by carrying the pregnancy to term, no restriction may be placed on obtaining the abortion. (BTW, this is true all the way until delivery - see Planned Parenthood v. Casey). This would include the mental stress of having a potentially Gay child.

IF same sex attraction is found to be linked to a genetic difference (or even a detectable neurological condition) among affected individuals, there is nothing to stop the selective abortion of potentially “Gay” children. They can be “screened out”, just like every other genetically abnormal “potential child”.

The only thing to stop the* in vitro* genocide of “potential Gays” is for the GLBT community (and the rest of us) to take a hard-line stance on the personhood of an embryo/foetus, and immediately call for restrictions to be placed on abortion from the fertilization stage all the way through delivery. Naturally, this would entail an overruling of Roe v. Wade.

Has anyone in the GLBT community thought of this?

God Bless,
RyanL

I have wondered this as well. Something about homosexuality seems inherently selfish though, and I suspect getting the “right” to marry, etc. trumps protecting the future of their subculture.

 

[phantom]

. Naturally, this would entail an overruling of Roe v. Wade.

You must be a Republican, anyone who opposed abortion(rather than just using it as a political tool to get elected) would know that the only way it will ever be stopped in this country is with a constitutional amendment banning it. Which I would love to see happen, but as long as so many so called prolifers are willing to sell themselves to partisan operatives it will not happen.

 

[wjp984]

and exactly how are you going to get that amendment passed? 3/4 of the states have to ratify and amendment so it will never happen. At least if Roe V Wade gets overturned then the few states that are against abortion will have a right to make it illegal.

 

[Gottle_of_Geer]

The typical Gay advocate I encounter these days usually insists that same sex attraction is a genetic predisposition over which they have no control, colloquially asserted as “the way God made them.”

There’s no science to support this, but that’s not the point. For this argument, I’ll readily concede the point.

Pre-Implantation Genetic Diagnosis (PGD) is a growing practice in the IVF community. Currently, it’s used to screen embryos with genetic anomalies like Down’s syndrome, but it’s also increasingly being used for sex selection. In fact, some IFV clinics make it a selling point. With more and more fertile couples seeking IVF in order to have increased control over their genetic progeny, it’s likely to become an even more widespread procedure in the near future.

Since the law currently holds that mothers have an absolute right over whether or not to terminate a pregnancy through abortion, there is no law in place to prevent aborting for any reason. If a mother’s mental health might be affected by carrying the pregnancy to term, no restriction may be placed on obtaining the abortion. (BTW, this is true all the way until delivery - see Planned Parenthood v. Casey). This would include the mental stress of having a potentially Gay child.

IF same sex attraction is found to be linked to a genetic difference (or even a detectable neurological condition) among affected individuals, there is nothing to stop the selective abortion of potentially “Gay” children. They can be “screened out”, just like every other genetically abnormal “potential child”.

The only thing to stop the* in vitro* genocide of “potential Gays” is for the GLBT community (and the rest of us) to take a hard-line stance on the personhood of an embryo/foetus, and immediately call for restrictions to be placed on abortion from the fertilization stage all the way through delivery. Naturally, this would entail an overruling of Roe v. Wade.

Has anyone in the GLBT community thought of this?

God Bless,
RyanL

Have you heard of PLAGAL.org - the Pro-Life Alliance of Gays And Lesbians ?​

IM(N-E)O, people need formation in their sexual identity as much as in anything else (such as their identity as Christians) ##

 

[RyanL]

You must be a Republican…

Actually, no. I’m not affiliated with any party, as I can’t fully support any of the options on the table.

…anyone who opposed abortion(rather than just using it as a political tool to get elected) would know that the only way it will ever be stopped in this country is with a constitutional amendment banning it.

This is true. This is the only way to stop abortions in this country.

It’s worth noting in passing, however, that RvW has been largely overruled in Planned Parenthood v. Casey, though not in a pro-life favorable way. Read Scalia’s dissent in PPvC to see why RvW is not really good law anymore (link - for a brief synopsis, start at the paragraph which begins, “I am certainly not in a good position to dispute that the Court has saved the “central holding” of Roe…”)

God Bless,
RyanL

 

[RyanL]

Have you heard of PLAGAL.org - the Pro-Life Alliance of Gays And Lesbians ?​

No, I haven’t. I’ll have to check them out. Thanks for the info!

IM(N-E)O, people need formation in their sexual identity as much as in anything else (such as their identity as Christians) ##

The identity as a Christian is foremost, as everything else about yourself should be (and indeed can only properly be) viewed in light of God. Without a fixed point, there is no possible way to navigate. Therefore, a person’s identity as a Christian is foundational, and retains a primacy which a supposed “sexual identity” cannot match. Which is a long way of saying, “I beg to differ.”

God Bless,
RyanL