Why Are So Many Girls Rejecting Womanhood?

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My first response when I saw this thread was, “Because their fathers are not around, or lack the skills to father their children, especially their daughters.”

My second response is, “Because they have been sexually abused by men, and in many cases, have deeply suppressed the abuse, with the consequence that they are attempting to ‘become a male in an attempt to negate their abuse at the hands of a male.’ '”

My third response is, “Because they have been allowed to receive most of their upbringing and training from day-care providers, teachers, peers, and online (entertainment and social platforms like twitter, instagram, etc.) rather than from their parents.”

This last response is offered with great trepidation, as I know that many parents have done the very best they can to provide their daughters with an outstanding childhood. But as a working woman (since my girls were in school and not when they were birth - age 5), I see my peers dropping their babies and small children off at a day care as early as 6:00 a.m, and picking them up as late as 5:00 p.m., and putting them to bed as early as 7:00 p.m.–to me, it seems that their children are much more influenced by secular paid care-givers and as they get older, online role models, than their parents.
 
What does this have to do with the topic? Please, stop using every post as an opportunity to plug your site. It is annoying to read a post and find it has nothing to do with the OP.
 
The only person you appear to be “helping” is yourself. Please, we all know you have a forum.
 
Dude, it’s fine to promote your forum in the threads where people are asking about which new forums to go to when this one closes. Also fine to make one thread inviting everyone to your new forum. However, it’s NOT fine to post in every thread promoting your forum. This forum has rules forbidding off-topic posts, spam/ adverts, and agenda posting. You’re breaking those rules and you’re getting flagged for it.
 
It’s not somehow okay for you to break this forum’s rules because you’re running a dating site. Like I said, you are spamming the forum and drawing flags. I’ll let the moderators take it from here.
 
Ok, I’m just trying to save people from paying, it’s not like I am copying and pasting something over and over. It had to do with the post.
 
Catholic Around The World has absolutely nothing to do with this thread. Please respect the OP and don’t post things that are off-topic.

My first thought when I read the thread title was about puberty. A lot of girls struggle when their body changes and for many it can be uncomfortable or unwanted. I suspect a lot of social issues come into play at the same time, maybe boys (or even grown men, yuck) making sexual comments or inappropriate looks, perhaps also a social pressure to move away from ‘kid things’ to ‘teen things’, when many girls just aren’t ready to do it. And I’m sure social media hasn’t helped, particularly when it’s so easy to go online and feel inadequate (even when pictures online have been edited and distorted so much they don’t even look like the original person).
 
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Derailing a thread to make off-topic agenda posts is not helpful, especially when you haven’t read the article the OP was posting about. Please make your own thread about CATW if that’s what you want to discuss. As I and others have said, it’s disrespectful to the OP and other posters on this thread, and it’s against the rules.
 
No, you are thinking about yourself. Everyone here has heard you drone on about the site ad nauseum. We have told you it’s against forum rules, inappropriate and annoying. Just stop already.
 
If no one responded to it, it wouldn’t be an issue, just ignore the comment and I probably would have forgot about it. Its just one comment, that might be able to help someone if they saw it. It really shouldn’t bother you that much to write nasty comments at me.
 
Maybe because they are the only ones interested. But believe me, everyone has read about your site.
 
@CATW I was suspicious of your site from the beginning. Now, based on your rude interactions on this thread, I would never recommend or go to your forum.

Have Nice Day!
 
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My first thought when I read the thread title was about puberty. A lot of girls struggle when their body changes and for many it can be uncomfortable or unwanted. I suspect a lot of social issues come into play at the same time, maybe boys (or even grown men, yuck) making sexual comments or inappropriate looks, perhaps also a social pressure to move away from ‘kid things’ to ‘teen things’, when many girls just aren’t ready to do it. And I’m sure social media hasn’t helped, particularly when it’s so easy to go online and feel inadequate (even when pictures online have been edited and distorted so much they don’t even look like the original person).
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Sticking with the topic here–I think your response makes sense.

I went through what you are describing when I hit puberty (and I was an early bloomer, around age 10–not fun!).

But way back in the olden days (the 1960s!) when I and my friends/peers were going through puberty, there was plenty of positive support from the media (the teen magazines like 17 and “Teen”) and our schools. As embarrassing as those “sex ed” classes were, they did answer questions, and they did give us little books to read about what was happening, and these books were written with a very positive point-of-view about growing up and becoming a woman.

Also, when I was a teen, my Evangelical Protestant church, along with a lot of other Evangelical Protestant churches, was starting to do a lot of ministry to pre-teen boys and girls to help us prepare for puberty and adulthood–and it was a fun time, with good teachers (women role models for me, whom I grew to love like second mothers!).

Finally, most of my peers were positive about growing up and I think we helped each other through it. We all talked about boys and having a boyfriend some day, and most of us had at least one “crush” by the time we were 13-14 years old–and all of this made growing up easier and adventurous.

But now…the media is sooooo messed up–it’s almost as if they WANT girls to suffer through puberty and both girls and boys to do a lot of soul-searching to see if perhaps, they are gay or bi or something new! We never would have dreamed of this back then!
I’m sure that there were kids that did have the sense that they were not like all the others, but most of us moved through the phases of puberty with a lot of positive support.

The internet really feeds fears, worries, and does not necessarily answer questions, but just casts doubt and mystery over everything for teens.

And it is awful that all the movie stars, musicians, and online celebrities have no clue that telling 13 year-olds that they might be gay or trans or whatever is just not something that is any of their durn business! They don’t even KNOW the kids they are addressing online, but somehow, because they are famous, they think they have more wisdom than a teen’s parents!
 
I can’t speak to those girls growing up in Generation Z, but I know growing up as a millennial, my personal experience (which may be different from other millennial women) seemed to emphasize the positives and respectability of being a tomboy, and seemed to equate femininity with ditziness or vanity.

It was cool to be a girl who liked to climb trees or wanted to be an astronaut. It wasn’t cool to wear a dress or (the unspeakable) be a homemaker.

If I had to guess, I might guess that Generation Z are being told that “womanhood” is an artificial social construct that means “house slave breeder”, and when they reject womanhood they’re rejecting that. Or thereabouts.
 
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