Why are there so many apparitions of Mary, but not of Christ himself?

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I’ll admit I need to do more research on this, but why do there not seem to be as many apparitions of Christ as there are of Mary, at least in terms of official apparitions? The only one I can think of is the Divine Mercy and Saint Faustina (which is why I have a great devotion to it, because it puts emphasis on Christ and his passion).

Are there any other apparitions of Jesus? and if so why do Marian apparitions get so much more attention and devotion. I know she is the Mother of God and deserves honor, but you’d think Jesus would be seen just as much. Even with unofficial apparitions so many seem to be of Mary, yet few deal with Christ.
 
Mary appears to turn the hearts of her children to her Son Jesus! Like John the Baptist prepared the way to the Lord. The mama doesn’t want her Son to have died in vain. She wants us in Heaven. 👍

Some people may be more responsive/trusting of an inspired messege from a woman. I believe She is just doing her part to prepare us for the Kingdom of Heaven. I hope I get in! :yup:
 
It is not time for Jesus to reappear in the world yet - the Father will send Jesus in His time! 👍

Keep waiting in joyful anticipation, hope and prayer for His return! 😉

Much Peace!

Mike 🙂
 
I’ll admit I need to do more research on this, but why do there not seem to be as many apparitions of Christ as there are of Mary, at least in terms of official apparitions? The only one I can think of is the Divine Mercy and Saint Faustina (which is why I have a great devotion to it, because it puts emphasis on Christ and his passion).

Are there any other apparitions of Jesus? and if so why do Marian apparitions get so much more attention and devotion. I know she is the Mother of God and deserves honor, but you’d think Jesus would be seen just as much. Even with unofficial apparitions so many seem to be of Mary, yet few deal with Christ.
Well…if Jesus keeps appearing…then it may cause wild panic…as everyone would think it is the 2nd coming…🤷

And if it is Mary…we all know who she is…she is human…and we expect messages from her from Jesus.
 
There are many apparitions of Jesus… you might be interested in the book “Way of Divine Love”, if you like Divine Mercy 🙂 it tells of the visions that Sr Josefa Menendez had of Jesus… it has the Nihil Obstat/Imprimatur and is published by TAN publishers. It came before Divine Mercy and sort of leads to it in a way, they seem related ? Mary appears to her too.

There are also Saints who have seen Jesus like St Gemma Galgani (wonderful Saint to read about btw), St Margaret Mary had the revelations about the Sacred Heart devotion (book about it called “the Devotion to the Sacred Heart of Jesus” by her priest).

I think there are apparitions of Mary because she leads us to her Son 🙂 and this glorifies God too.

God bless
 
I’ll admit I need to do more research on this, but why do there not seem to be as many apparitions of Christ as there are of Mary, at least in terms of official apparitions? The only one I can think of is the Divine Mercy and Saint Faustina (which is why I have a great devotion to it, because it puts emphasis on Christ and his passion).

Are there any other apparitions of Jesus? and if so why do Marian apparitions get so much more attention and devotion. I know she is the Mother of God and deserves honor, but you’d think Jesus would be seen just as much. Even with unofficial apparitions so many seem to be of Mary, yet few deal with Christ.
I’m not sure why there are more apparitions of Mary than Jesus, though I never really thought that it should be otherwise.

But given that every time Mary appears it is to direct us towards Christ, and given that she only appears by the power of God, why does it seem to you that Christ should appear more than Mary?

This is a genuine question. I ask because to me the fact that Mary appears more often just seems natural to me, and I’m still trying to figure out why this is before I try to wrap words around it. Perhaps examining why it is that you tend to think it should be the other way around would help shed light on the whole issue.
 
I’m not sure why there are more apparitions of Mary than Jesus, though I never really thought that it should be otherwise.

But given that every time Mary appears it is to direct us towards Christ, and given that she only appears by the power of God, why does it seem to you that Christ should appear more than Mary?

This is a genuine question. I ask because to me the fact that Mary appears more often just seems natural to me, and I’m still trying to figure out why this is before I try to wrap words around it. Perhaps examining why it is that you tend to think it should be the other way around would help shed light on the whole issue.
I guess I see it the other way because to me Jesus is God, and God is above all else. I fully agree Mary is the Queen of Heaven and I do think that many of the apparitions do lead to Christ.

That being said, I guess I worry that a lot of “Mary Worship” goes on. I don’t know why I do, but it bugs me. I don’t like it when people say things like “Mary is easier to pray to” or “Mary is essential to our salvation (in a sense she is since she is the Mother of God, but Jesus saved us through his death on a cross. Mary, however important she may be is not the reason I am able to be saved)”

I also feel that with Marian apparitions some people (probably not the majority) are more into Mary than Jesus. Granted I think most Catholics make the distinction between worship and honor, but it still worries me.

That being said, I still honor her as Mother of God and do pray to her sometimes. I just have a stronger devotion to our Lord
 
Sometimes both Mary and Jesus appare togather, like at Knock, Ireland in the 1870’s. The Virgin Mary, St. Joesph, St. John (as the teacher), and the Lord Jesus, (as a Lamb upon a Altar) all were in the apparition. :):gopray::heaven:
 
I’ll admit I need to do more research on this, but why do there not seem to be as many apparitions of Christ as there are of Mary, at least in terms of official apparitions? The only one I can think of is the Divine Mercy and Saint Faustina (which is why I have a great devotion to it, because it puts emphasis on Christ and his passion).

Are there any other apparitions of Jesus? and if so why do Marian apparitions get so much more attention and devotion. I know she is the Mother of God and deserves honor, but you’d think Jesus would be seen just as much. Even with unofficial apparitions so many seem to be of Mary, yet few deal with Christ.
Here it is the end of Lent, but your question is more about Advent. The Advent of the Lord is the arriving of the Lord. His First Advent culminated in the Nativity, Christmas Day, when the Earth received her King, as the carol says. Before that, there was Mary, with Child by the power of the Holy Spirit. She it is who brought Christ into the world. Our Savior came to us through her, and without her, He did not come.

Saint Louis deMontfort expounds much about these things in his book, “True Devotion to Mary.” I highly recommend it.

At Fatima, Our Blessed Mother prophesied, “In the End, my Immaculate Heart will triumph.” Pope Leo XIII had a vision informing him that in the twentieth century, the decisive battle between Satan and Christ would be fought. Satan was given more power and a whole century to attempt to destroy Christ’s Church. It is not mere coincidence that the apparitions at Fatima took place near the beginning of the twentieth century.

In the Book of Revelation we read, “A great Sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, the moon at her feet, and a crown of twelve stars on her head.” The Woman is Mary, and also the Woman represents the Church; Mary is the perfect Model of the Church. The Woman clothed with the Sun is thus The Great Sign.

That Great Sign literally appeared in the sky at Fatima and elsewhere.

The Triumph of the Immaculate Heart of Mary is taking place now, in the hearts of those devoted to her through her Rosary, in accordance with her explicit requests at Fatima, and in accordance with what Saint Louis wrote in True Devotion to Mary.

It is her Time now. It is her Triumph. It is the Triumph of sinlessness as Victory over Satan and his legions of evil. God is now preparing His Bride for His return in glory, and included in that preparation is the entire human race, as there is no one who is not associated in some way with God’s Church; whether as faithful members, or strayed members, or objects of solicitude. God is now eliminating all sin from His entire world on Earth through the intercessory power of His Immaculate Mother and through her Rosary.

The task of preparing a place for Jesus to enter His World on Earth at the First Advent was assigned to the Holy Family. It is the same for His Second Advent, now. Saint Joseph is always with Our Blessed Mother, and God has assigned to her the task of preparing the world for His return in Glory. There is much to be done, but it all begins with her Rosary.

The Penitential Rosary Crusade Prayer specifically asks her for what it explicitly her will with her Rosary. It asks for more graces, of conversion from sin, of perseverance in praying rosary after rosary after rosary, and of her help in her spreading of her Rosary of penance for sin, diocese by diocese, throughout God’s entire world on Earth.
 
I guess I see it the other way because to me Jesus is God, and God is above all else. I fully agree Mary is the Queen of Heaven and I do think that many of the apparitions do lead to Christ.

That being said, I guess I worry that a lot of “Mary Worship” goes on. I don’t know why I do, but it bugs me. I don’t like it when people say things like “Mary is easier to pray to” or “Mary is essential to our salvation (in a sense she is since she is the Mother of God, but Jesus saved us through his death on a cross. Mary, however important she may be is not the reason I am able to be saved)”

I also feel that with Marian apparitions some people (probably not the majority) are more into Mary than Jesus. Granted I think most Catholics make the distinction between worship and honor, but it still worries me.

That being said, I still honor her as Mother of God and do pray to her sometimes. I just have a stronger devotion to our Lord
I cannot recommend Saint Louis’ book highly enough to match its merit. You need to read it!

Devotion to Mary Never detracts from Jesus. It is in no way possible to be “too much” devoted to her. Your worrying about it is literally from Satan. I’m not accusing you of any malice, I am simply stating the fact that Satan hates devotion to Mary, on the account that devotion to Mary infallibly leads to salvation. Devotion to Jesus and Devotion to Mary are inseparable. So the idea that one could “have a stronger devotion to Our Lord,” as if to say one prefers Jesus to Mary, is absurd. The angel said, “The Lord is with thee.” Jesus is with her. To be devoted to Mary IS to be devoted to Jesus. It is impossible to displease Jesus by having too great of a devotion to His Immaculate Mother. Satan and his legions of evil enter glee whenever anyone implies the least separation between Jesus and Mary, because they know that they can play on that error and cause souls to worry that their devotion to Mary is “too much.” If they are wholly successful, they will essentially produce another Protestant.

Don’t fall prey to their wiles! Don’t believe their lies. Don’t buy into the wedge they wish to drive between Jesus and Mary. Jesus and Mary are inseparable. The degree to which they succeed in your mind in driving a wedge between Jesus and Mary is the degree to which they have successfully driven a wedge between you and Jesus.

You should not pray to her “sometimes.” You should pray to her continually. Jesus said, “pray without ceasing.” You should pray the rosary without ceasing.

O.K., getting down from the soapbox now.
 
I guess I see it the other way because to me Jesus is God, and God is above all else. I fully agree Mary is the Queen of Heaven and I do think that many of the apparitions do lead to Christ.

That being said, I guess I worry that a lot of “Mary Worship” goes on. I don’t know why I do, but it bugs me. I don’t like it when people say things like “Mary is easier to pray to” or “Mary is essential to our salvation (in a sense she is since she is the Mother of God, but Jesus saved us through his death on a cross. Mary, however important she may be is not the reason I am able to be saved)”

I also feel that with Marian apparitions some people (probably not the majority) are more into Mary than Jesus. Granted I think most Catholics make the distinction between worship and honor, but it still worries me.

That being said, I still honor her as Mother of God and do pray to her sometimes. I just have a stronger devotion to our Lord
I have a lifelong devotion to Mammon Mary and the rosary and I can tell you from intensely personal experience that she ALWAYS and unerringly points me to Jesus. I do not “worship” Mary, I pray for her intercession. I’ve been to Lourdes and I’m going to Fatima in less than a week. There is powerful intention on her part to lead us directly to her Son and that’s what happens if we are open to it.
 
WildCatholic, I understand what you are saying. I have also met people who only want to discuss apparitions, messages, secrets, and prophecy. They say it points them towards Jesus, but it seems to me that Jesus has to take the back seat to all the other. I know some ladies who go to daily Mass, but then spend all their time reading volumes of messages. They also live for their next trip to the site of an apparition ( usually the ones that are not approved as worthy of belief). I once went to a women’s meeting at church and the discussion was going to be about Marion apparitions. They spent about 5 minutes talking about Fatima, then went on to unapproved apparitions and all of those messages. And if you express concern, they ignore you like the plague, and think you are a lost soul. It is a bit scary.
 
WildCatholic, I understand what you are saying. I have also met people who only want to discuss apparitions, messages, secrets, and prophecy. They say it points them towards Jesus, but it seems to me that Jesus has to take the back seat to all the other. I know some ladies who go to daily Mass, but then spend all their time reading volumes of messages. They also live for their next trip to the site of an apparition ( usually the ones that are not approved as worthy of belief). I once went to a women’s meeting at church and the discussion was going to be about Marion apparitions. They spent about 5 minutes talking about Fatima, then went on to unapproved apparitions and all of those messages. And if you express concern, they ignore you like the plague, and think you are a lost soul. It is a bit scary.
 
Well, we have an example in Saint Thomas Aquinas … he was levitated up to be face to face with Jesus on the cross at a church, where upon Jesus spoke to him … and he was given a view of Heaven … the experience for him was so profound that he attempted to burn his writings because he said they were “like straw” … utterly inadequate to reflect the actuality of the nature of God.

Most likely, if anyone witnesses an apparition of Jesus, he or she is so profoundly impacted that they would be almost paralyzed for life … and inclined to spent vast amounts of time kneeling … utterly overcome … and unlikely to ever speak about it … a true expression of “fear of the Lord” … awestruck in the ultimate …
 
WildCatholic, I understand what you are saying. I have also met people who only want to discuss apparitions, messages, secrets, and prophecy. They say it points them towards Jesus, but it seems to me that Jesus has to take the back seat to all the other. I know some ladies who go to daily Mass, but then spend all their time reading volumes of messages. They also live for their next trip to the site of an apparition ( usually the ones that are not approved as worthy of belief). I once went to a women’s meeting at church and the discussion was going to be about Marion apparitions. They spent about 5 minutes talking about Fatima, then went on to unapproved apparitions and all of those messages. And if you express concern, they ignore you like the plague, and think you are a lost soul. It is a bit scary.
What you describecis what bugs me. A lot of people who are especially into apparitions are into illicit ones. I even found out a friend of mine who happens to be disabled believes in some apparition that happened in NYC that was condemned and it disturbed me while looking it up.
However, I will say there are many who only agree with luxuries apparitions and are devoted to our Lord. Those people are my role models because everything they believe leads to Christ.
 
I left the Church once due to the fact that a Deacon proclaimed in church, “the only way to pray to Jesus is through Mary”. I had had enough. BUT…spending some time in a protestant church the next year, I found myself defending Catholicism at almost every comment made against it. Not in an antagonistic way, but in a way of “well, no this is why Rome does this…”

It got to the point that I felt it was time to make amends and go Home. Now, I have heard numerous priests state that as a practicing Catholic, Marian theology is up to the individual as far as how far one wants to take devotion, prayers, etc but that they all to ultimately reveal Christ. Or you can simply pray to Christ himself. They are all intercessors with Christ ALONE as the great mediator between God and man. I look at this way, the more prayers offered to Christ on my behalf certainly help and Hebrews 12 speaks of the validity of these clouds of witnesses.

So use them, use Mary, how ever you do it and how often you do it is is up to you, but remember, it ALL leads to Jesus Christ, our Saviour. Hope that helped a little.
 
I’ll admit I need to do more research on this, but why do there not seem to be as many apparitions of Christ as there are of Mary, at least in terms of official apparitions? The only one I can think of is the Divine Mercy and Saint Faustina (which is why I have a great devotion to it, because it puts emphasis on Christ and his passion).

Are there any other apparitions of Jesus? and if so why do Marian apparitions get so much more attention and devotion. I know she is the Mother of God and deserves honor, but you’d think Jesus would be seen just as much. Even with unofficial apparitions so many seem to be of Mary, yet few deal with Christ.
Great thread… I think maybe because Mary is human. Although Jesus was fully human and fully divine… (it is a mystery)… Mary is fully human. I love that about her. It’s so easy to comprehend and she’s so approachable and available. Besides, Jesus is busy.

I think Jesus’ visits are micro-bursts compared to Mary. Then again, there can be a melancholy with Mary that can just make you so sad. Jesus whacks you on the head. He shares his cross. It’s a lot more than heavy. Mary looks at you with those sad eyes that have seen our sins crucify her Son… day in and day out, over and over… no wonder she’s full of Grace and Blessed… she needs it to bear her grief… How lucky we are… It’s hard to imagine how little we appreciate… how lucky we are…
 
I guess I see it the other way because to me Jesus is God, and God is above all else. I fully agree Mary is the Queen of Heaven and I do think that many of the apparitions do lead to Christ.

That being said, I guess I worry that a lot of “Mary Worship” goes on. I don’t know why I do, but it bugs me. I don’t like it when people say things like “Mary is easier to pray to” or “Mary is essential to our salvation (in a sense she is since she is the Mother of God, but Jesus saved us through his death on a cross. Mary, however important she may be is not the reason I am able to be saved)”

I also feel that with Marian apparitions some people (probably not the majority) are more into Mary than Jesus. Granted I think most Catholics make the distinction between worship and honor, but it still worries me.

That being said, I still honor her as Mother of God and do pray to her sometimes. I just have a stronger devotion to our Lord
I can see where you’re coming from. I guess the reason why I would expect Mary to appear more often is because God may be a bit… intimidating. Not on purpose of course, but I at least would have a hard time paying attention if Jesus was standing in front of me. I think my mind would be repeatedly looping something to the effect of “God is standing in front of me. God is standing in front of me. God is…” Which of course He can and does get around when He appears, but it just seems to make sense to me that He’d often send His mother.

Which isn’t to say that the sinless virgin mother of God is not awe inspiring as well. Only that her appearances might be easier to handle. In short, it seems to me that she would appear precisely because she is less important.

Semi sort of but not really analogous to the difference between a visit from the head of state of a country where everyone is on their best behavior and just trying to appear polite so that they don’t inadvertently insult him, vs some diplomats working out some nitty gritty details in a back room.

(I also do not have a particularly strong Marian devotion, and the depth of the devotion that some people have to her at first glance seems odd to me, but on closer inspection of how it seems to work this devotion always seems to be a good thing, just a thing that I do not fully grasp at this time.)
 
Don’t forget the Sacred Heart! That has been connected with apparitions of Our Lord.
 
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