Why are they fighting in Syria?

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I did debate on where to ask this question. I hope I picked the correct place. As I am not posting a news story, I figured my question did belong in “World News.” I’m guessing that the Syrians are fighting for social justice, so I thought I’d post my question here.

I understand why the people of the Middle East have a battle going on with the western world, but I’m at a total loss of why Syria is fighting itself.

Without being political, could someone please tell me why they are fighting in Syria?

Also, if you don’t mind. what is the Arab Spring?
 
They are fighting for the same reasons that we have groups like WBC, Chick, the KKK, NOI, and other religions that do not agree with any one else and tell the other groups that they are going to hell. It is that we are usually a bit less violent about it. 🤷 😛
 
Basically, it boils down to the populace being tired of the greedy “crony capitalist” leadership, demanding his resignation, being branded traitors, protesting, then resisting when the military were sent to disperse the protests.
 
In 1971 Hafez Al Assad seized power in Syria. He was the leader of Syria from 1971 to 2000. In 2000 his son Bashar Al Assad became the leader of Syrian. The Al Assad family is of the Alawite branch of Islam while Syria is a Sunni Muslim Country. The Alawite Muslims of Syria are favored over the Sunni majority. In 1981 the Sunnis revolted against Hafez Al Assad and he had the military carry out a massacre on the Sunnis that participated in the revolt.

Syria is a dictatorship with 90% of the population are treated like second class citizens. The people of Syria want democracy and they wanted to be led by a Sunni lead government as opposed to being lead by the minority. There has been a lot of blood shed and loss of human life. What is truly unfortunate is that even if the people of Syria are successful in overthrowing Bashar Al Assad it is not clear if the people of Syria will have democracy or another dictatorship to replace the Al Assad family and the Alawites. :confused:
 
Thanks for the feedback, especially yours wllmjoseph.. I know I shouldn’t be, but I’m stunned that this is a religious issue. When I see this on the news and people are in the street rioting, I just wonder how they know who their enemy is. How sad.
 
A news anchor described it as “Alien vs. Predator”. They’re both bad. Unfortunately, with all the children and innocent people being killed, we almost have to take sides just to stop the bloodshed.
 
**Instigated. America is funding and training the rebels, along with GB and the EU, but chiefly, the US, because we are controlled. Notice Putin is directly opposing our government on this and other related issues, and, he is correct. I can’t go into the reasons because I want to retain my ability to be a part of this website. Our funds are sent, and our young men and women are sent, to die or be horrendously mutiliated in yet another country if they do enter Syria. We are not serving our own interests, and Syria is merely a stepping stone. Until you ‘get’ how bad things really are, in our own country, and can accept a lot of things that you cannot accept now, you will not get the truth of Syria.

An easy way to get the situation into clearer focus without doing a lot of reading and listening is this. Search for videos from **‘syrian girl’ **easy to find on yt- she is from a high ranking family in Syria, now in the US. She tells the truth, and is very beautiful as she does it. It is all very sad of course, but so were Libya, Egypt, Tunisia.

Assad is not the villian here, though of course he isn’t ‘perfect.’ I won’t be posting again on this thread but I do gently implore people not to accept things at face value.

This has been planned for a long time. Our foreign policy is not serving America, and this is nothing new and extends into the reason we entered WWII when we were finally brought to heel. Pearl Harbor was known in advance, but the effect of it was to make the US enter WWII, and therefore, because of the control of our highest ranking public ‘servants’ we did enter the war. This is not unrelated to Syria. Everything does tie together once the motivations are understood, and respect for truth exists. As a result of WWII and the Balfour Declaration… well, research the Balfour Declaration. :)**
 
Nandarani, you missed this part of my post…
Without being political, could someone please tell me why they are fighting in Syria?
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wllmjoseph said:
In 1971 Hafez Al Assad seized power in Syria. He was the leader of Syria from 1971 to 2000. In 2000 his son Bashar Al Assad became the leader of Syrian. The Al Assad family is of the Alawite branch of Islam while Syria is a Sunni Muslim Country. The Alawite Muslims of Syria are favored over the Sunni majority. In 1981 the Sunnis revolted against Hafez Al Assad and he had the military carry out a massacre on the Sunnis that participated in the revolt.

Syria is a dictatorship with 90% of the population are treated like second class citizens. The people of Syria want democracy and they wanted to be led by a Sunni lead government as opposed to being lead by the minority. There has been a lot of blood shed and loss of human life. What is truly unfortunate is that even if the people of Syria are successful in overthrowing Bashar Al Assad it is not clear if the people of Syria will have democracy or another dictatorship to replace the Al Assad family and the Alawites. :confused:
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If the rebels are mad at the Alawites for treating them badly, why are they (rebels) slaughtering Christians?
 
The reason the rebels are killing the Christians of Syria is that they are using the uprising as an opportunity to persecute and kill the Christian minority in Syria. All around it is a horrible situation.
 
sweetcharity said:
I did debate on where to ask this question. I hope I picked the correct place. As I am not posting a news story, I figured my question did belong in “World News.” I’m guessing that the Syrians are fighting for social justice, so I thought I’d post my question here.

I understand why the people of the Middle East have a battle going on with the western world, but I’m at a total loss of why Syria is fighting itself.

Without being political, could someone please tell me why they are fighting in Syria?

Also, if you don’t mind. what is the Arab Spring?
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there are multiple different sides in this conflict:

There are those on Assad’s side, the Baathists. Baathism incorporates some elements of Islamism but is ultimately a version of National Socialism which believes that Arabs, rather than Germanic groups (as believed by the original National Socialists) are superior.

There are several Islamic groups states such as Hezbollah and Iran which support Assad and belong to Shia Islam (more on this later in the post).

There are several Islamic groups which figure prominently in the rebellion such as Hamas and Al Qaeda which belong to Sunni Islam. (more on this later in the post).

There is the FSA (Free Syrian Army) which is the major rebellion group which is composed largely, though not totally, of Islamic terrorists.

There are several other rebellion groups such as those representing the Kurds which are generally at least partially pro western and are opposed to both the FSA and Assad.

The civil war began with protests grown out of the Arab Spring in March of 2011. This were peaceful protests which demanded reform and transparency which were cracked down on by Assad’s government. Eventually rebel groups began forming militias such as the FSA and began actively fighting back against Assad. By 2012 terrorists flooded Syria and began to play a prominent role in the uprising. The Arab Spring is a term for the group of protests which occurred in the Arab world. In December 2010 protests which resulted in the overthrow of the Tunisian government began in Tunisia, and spread the following month to Egypt. After a few months another revolution occurred in Yemen and a civil war began in Libya. These protests were originally supported by those supporting liberty, however many of them were organized by far leftest groups and the organizing of protests eventually fell into the hands of Islamic groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood.

Shia vs. Sunni

As I said before I would get to this. Generally Hamas and Hezbollah fight together against Israel, or at least support each other, however when conflict emerges that doesn’t involve Israel that partnership generally breaks down. They belong to two opposing sects of Islam, the Shia sect and the Sunni sect. The differences between the two revolve around the successor to Muhammad. The Sunni believe that a successor was to be chosen by an election of the Ummah (the Muslim community) to lead the Caliphate. The Shia believe in a more monarchist like system in which leadership stayed among Muhammad’s relatives. Sunni Islam is generally believed to be the more Orthodox sect of Islam, with Shia being akin to sort of a Protestantism of Islam. For more information this is a good overview islam.about.com/cs/divisions/f/shia_sunni.htm
 
I’m guessing that in the end Syria may exchange the Assad dictatorship for a Muslim Brotherhood dictatorship, with the help of the U.S. Will a Muslim Brotherhood dictatorship be worse than Assad? For Christians, probably so.
 
Nandarandi, I appreciate what you say. Thanks for posting it.

We need more true civilian control over the military. Period.
 
The Syrian “rebels” are Islamic jihadists wanting to take control of Syria the way they did to Egypt and the way they want to do to the whole Middle East and North Africa region. That’s what the “Arab Spring” is about. To give you an idea of their character, these “rebels” have beheaded at least one Christian. There are no good guys in the fight. As we should know from the Muslim Brotherhood turning Egypt into a Sharia Law run Islamic dictatorship, President Assad isn’t as bad as what will replace him if the “rebels” take over. Assad has had a relatively secular form of government that has been relatively tolerant to Christians. If the “rebels” take over the government the Christians will be killed, persecuted, and forced to leave just as it happened in Egypt and in Iraq.
 
PaulinePresbytr said:
there are multiple different sides in this conflict:

There are those on Assad’s side, the Baathists. Baathism incorporates some elements of Islamism but is ultimately a version of National Socialism which believes that Arabs, rather than Germanic groups (as believed by the original National Socialists) are superior.

There are several Islamic groups states such as Hezbollah and Iran which support Assad and belong to Shia Islam (more on this later in the post).

There are several Islamic groups which figure prominently in the rebellion such as Hamas and Al Qaeda which belong to Sunni Islam. (more on this later in the post).

There is the FSA (Free Syrian Army) which is the major rebellion group which is composed largely, though not totally, of Islamic terrorists.

There are several other rebellion groups such as those representing the Kurds which are generally at least partially pro western and are opposed to both the FSA and Assad.

The civil war began with protests grown out of the Arab Spring in March of 2011. This were peaceful protests which demanded reform and transparency which were cracked down on by Assad’s government. Eventually rebel groups began forming militias such as the FSA and began actively fighting back against Assad. By 2012 terrorists flooded Syria and began to play a prominent role in the uprising. The Arab Spring is a term for the group of protests which occurred in the Arab world. In December 2010 protests which resulted in the overthrow of the Tunisian government began in Tunisia, and spread the following month to Egypt. After a few months another revolution occurred in Yemen and a civil war began in Libya. These protests were originally supported by those supporting liberty, however many of them were organized by far leftest groups and the organizing of protests eventually fell into the hands of Islamic groups such as the Muslim Brotherhood.

Shia vs. Sunni

As I said before I would get to this. Generally Hamas and Hezbollah fight together against Israel, or at least support each other, however when conflict emerges that doesn’t involve Israel that partnership generally breaks down. They belong to two opposing sects of Islam, the Shia sect and the Sunni sect. The differences between the two revolve around the successor to Muhammad. The Sunni believe that a successor was to be chosen by an election of the Ummah (the Muslim community) to lead the Caliphate. The Shia believe in a more monarchist like system in which leadership stayed among Muhammad’s relatives. Sunni Islam is generally believed to be the more Orthodox sect of Islam, with Shia being akin to sort of a Protestantism of Islam. For more information this is a good overview islam.about.com/cs/divisions/f/shia_sunni.htm
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Thanks Pauline for this very detailed reply to my question.

I still find this fascinating. With so many different players, without name tags, how do the people in the street know who to throw rocks at.🤷 This explanation makes me sad and angry.

In reading you response, I remembered an old Cheers episode in which Woody was going to break up with his girlfriend because he found out that she belonged to the American Lutheran church and he belonged to the Missouri Synod.

I also keep thinking about Rodney King’s famous ‘can’t we get along’.

Honestly, these people are part of the oldest know civilization. You would think that after 5000 years, they’d figure out how to get along with each other.
 
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