Why did G-d create Man and the Universe?

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Probably none of us knows for sure the answer to this question. But for those of us who believe in G-d, I think it’s an important question to ask. The answer is often that G-d doesn’t need the universe since He is self-sufficient and existed before His creation. Therefore, He created us and the whole universe out of His divine love. Others (Judaism and, I believe, Catholicism) have said that G-d created the universe partially incomplete so that Man can–through his works of kindness–complete it. What do you think? Does Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or any other religion discuss this?
 
Probably none of us knows for sure the answer to this question. But for those of us who believe in G-d, I think it’s an important question to ask. The answer is often that G-d doesn’t need the universe since He is self-sufficient and existed before His creation. Therefore, He created us and the whole universe out of His divine love. Others (Judaism and, I believe, Catholicism) have said that G-d created the universe partially incomplete so that Man can–through his works of kindness–complete it. What do you think? Does Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or any other religion discuss this?
Hey,

In this video, Fr. Robert Barron discusses “The God who Doesn’t Need us”, the concept you talked about where God is perfect and complete in and of Himself.
The God Who Doesn’t Need Us

Catholicism, historically, understands creation as being perfect prior to the fall of Adam. But God, in His graciousness, redeems humanity to give us access to an existence even better than before. This you’ll see referenced in the Easter Vigil Mass when the line “O Happy Fault of Adam” is proclaimed.

-Prophesy
 
This question cannot be answered in time. I feel the answer will include the creation of the universe and man are a natural expression of the love that is God. The essence of the question involves the mind of God. In an unfolding timeless eternity all of your questions will joyfully be revealed.

peace
 
This question cannot be answered in time. I feel the answer will include the creation of the universe and man are a natural expression of the love that is God. The essence of the question involves the mind of God. In an unfolding timeless eternity all of your questions will joyfully be revealed.

peace
Yes, I think you’ve stated it very well!
 
In “The Mystical City of God” by Ven. Mary of Agreda, it talks about it a bit in the first few chapters of v. 1. I can try to summarize the high points later when I’ve got extra time.

“City of God” hasn’t been without its controversies-- you can read about its history at:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mystical_City_of_God
– and I have some issues with some truly medieval errors it makes (ie, re: ensoulment), but greater saints have made the same mistakes.

We’re permitted to believe her revelations, but not commanded to-- but they make for interesting trains of thought to pursue.
 
Probably none of us knows for sure the answer to this question. But for those of us who believe in G-d, I think it’s an important question to ask. The answer is often that G-d doesn’t need the universe since He is self-sufficient and existed before His creation. Therefore, He created us and the whole universe out of His divine love. Others (Judaism and, I believe, Catholicism) have said that G-d created the universe partially incomplete so that Man can–through his works of kindness–complete it. What do you think? Does Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or any other religion discuss this?
Meltzerboy

Excellent question:

In all respect, why would the Lord G-d not want us to know and understand? The sense of incomplete might be of interest. If you consider Adam and Eve, where they complete? Or incomplete? When G-d made them. And is there a necessity in G-d’s view that mankind need be restored to what Adam and Eve where before they ate of the tree? If you think about it, G-d said all was good very good when He completed His Work in six days.

As we know, His Word is fulfilled, and He sees to it that His Word is fulfilled, but to be fulfilled in mankind might be the real question.
 
Probably none of us knows for sure the answer to this question. But for those of us who believe in G-d, I think it’s an important question to ask. The answer is often that G-d doesn’t need the universe since He is self-sufficient and existed before His creation. Therefore, He created us and the whole universe out of His divine love. Others (Judaism and, I believe, Catholicism) have said that G-d created the universe partially incomplete so that Man can–through his works of kindness–complete it. What do you think? Does Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or any other religion discuss this?
A short answer is that God is love, and love by its nature seeks to include more “persons.” God created the universe (with humans as the pinnacle) so that he would have more persons with which to exchange love. That’s us, his children. And BTW - for us to love God back requires that we have a choice “not to love” - since true love is not forced.

I’ve never heard that we were created solely so that we could complete the universe. Certainly we are called to create the kingdom of God here on earth.
 
God created Man and the Universe because both spiritual and physical existence are immensely valuable. Life is an opportunity for development, enjoyment and fulfilment, the highest form of which is attained through love.
 
Back again.

So, according to “City of God”–

The universe was created because God is infinite. God is perfectly aware of his own infinite attributes and perfections. Likewise, he has an inclination to communicate himself outwardly. So it naturally follows that an infinite being would want to give himself the opportunity to infinitely share himself and all that he possesses. And rather than diminishing his own gifts and graces, it merely serves to further increase them by giving himself an outlet for something that’s already inexhaustible. God is ready to overwhelm all of creation with his love and gifts, and the only thing that can hold that back is sin.

Regarding humanity, I thought about paraphrasing but decided to just quote part of it. “[Next] was decreed the creation of a people and congregation of men for Christ, who was already formed in the divine mind and will, and according to whose image and likeness man was to be made, in order, that the incarnate Word might find bretheren, similar but inferior to Himself and a people of his own nature, of whom He might be the Head.”

Anywhoo… it seems reasonable enough to imagine that a God who had infinite love, and infinite graces, and infinite treasure would want to create something to channel that love, channel those graces, and channel that treasure so that he wouldn’t be the only one who benefited from it. When you’ve got something fabulous, you want to share it with others… God just has the option of actually creating others to share it with. 🙂 And likewise, you like others to know where, exactly, those fabulous things come from. The Incarnation would have occurred whether there was Original Sin to save us from or not, because Christ not only redeemed us through his sufferings, but also used his ministry to bring us closer to God and give us a clearer idea of God’s expectations of us. So man was created not only to benefit from God’s generosity, but also to be a people for Christ.

But it also follows— if we were created to benefit from God’s generosity, how well have we used the gifts we’ve received? Are we the wheat on fertile ground that gives back a hundredfold, or have we given God interest on his talents of silver, or are we good and fruitful trees in his vineyard? If we were created to be a people for Christ, how well are we doing in our efforts to be Christlike? In such circumstances, what are our responsibilities and obligations to God? And to our fellow man?

Good food for thought.
 
A short answer is that God is love, and love by its nature seeks to include more “persons.” God created the universe (with humans as the pinnacle) so that he would have more persons with which to exchange love. That’s us, his children. And BTW - for us to love God back requires that we have a choice “not to love” - since true love is not forced.

I’ve never heard that we were created solely so that we could complete the universe. Certainly we are called to create the kingdom of God here on earth.
No, not solely; but it is said, in Judaism, that G-d–perfect as He is–purposely created the Universe with “something” missing so that Man might strive to complete the missing part. And, given Man’s free will, not an easy task either. This is not, to my knowledge, official doctrine.
 
Probably none of us knows for sure the answer to this question. But for those of us who believe in G-d, I think it’s an important question to ask. The answer is often that G-d doesn’t need the universe since He is self-sufficient and existed before His creation. Therefore, He created us and the whole universe out of His divine love. Others (Judaism and, I believe, Catholicism) have said that G-d created the universe partially incomplete so that Man can–through his works of kindness–complete it. What do you think? Does Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, or any other religion discuss this?
My dear friend ,

It’s a good question. My own thoughs on this in brief are : using the concept of something and nothing , that God is something and not nothing as nothing cannot exist , if nothing exists then nothing is no longer nothing but having existence it has become something. So something must exist and that something can have no nothing / ness in it and thus must be the most infinitely perfect something that can possibly be. If there was any nothing / ness in this something it would mean nothing / ness exists but nothing / ness cannot exist as said. The nature of something s that it must do something , only nothing does nothing, but nothing cannot exist. So if something by its very nature must do something then something must be what we call creative , and lacking no infinite perfection at all this creativity must be infinite. Hence God who is something must exist and must be infinitely creative by His very nature. God has created infinite worlds in my opinion , based on His nature. Hope his helps.

God bless and Love you 👍🙂

John
 
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