Why did god kill the 3 children of Fatima

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God is a loving god why would he kill them they all died exept one my Protestant sister brought this up to me when I was telling her about medjugorji and I’m hoping to find answer here she said she studied Fatima a lot when she was catholic and the suffering the children endured opened her eyes she said why would a loving god make them suffer she said god wouldn’t do that but the devil would please can someone answer this for me so I can show her
 
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God is a loving god why would he kill them they all died exept one
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Who says God killed them?

All people die. Some die young. That’s far from demonstrating that God kills.
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she said she studied Fatima a lot when she was catholic and the suffering the children endured opened her eyes she said why would a loving god make them suffer she said god wouldn’t do that but the devil would
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God allowed Jesus to suffer. Does that mean that God’s the devil? 🤔 😉
 
Two of the children died in the influenza pandemic of 1918. So did many more people, children included, not just those at Fatima. Death is a natural thing, not always a judgment, and it’s quite possible these children were in a state such that they went to Heaven immediately and are now with God (they are beatified, and they were told they would be in Heaven). Life and death are always in God’s hands, for everyone and everything, but saying God killed the children of Fatima suggests a supernatural death or striking down, which wasn’t the case. It was natural, like so many others. That it was foretold doesn’t make it judgement. God already knows when each and every one of us will pass on.
 
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Everyone dies when our allotted lives are up.

That’s why murder and violence are so abhorrent throughout the world-- they cut short the natural lifespan.

That’s why abortion and euthanasia are so controversial-- they cut short the natural lifespan.

Within that natural lifespan, we have a certain amount of time to do the tasks God has given to us to perform. Each of us is like a puzzle piece, and we join together to make a complete picture. If a puzzle piece is missing, or if this piece doesn’t want to do its job, then the puzzle suffers for it.

I’ve known children who have died in infancy who have done amazing things, even before they were born. And I know adults who have had 70, 80 years-- and they’ve caused strife as far as the eye can see. Having a long lifespan does not equal being blessed (a la the Old Testament lifespans, where it was indicative of how close people were to God); or does not indicate that you’ve necessarily used your life well. 🙂 The books are full of saints who only made it into their teens or 20’s or 30’s-- and, having accomplished their tasks, they were allowed to exchange this existence for a better one with the God they loved in Heaven.

(5 Child Saints Who Totally Put All of Us Adults to Shame! Top 25 Saints Under 25! Heaven Has No Age Limit! 30 Under 30: Saints! 25 Martyrs Younger Than You!

How many saints yearned to be finished with their work on earth, so they could get to the good stuff?

All three children were involved in the Fatima apparitions, and all three children were involved in prayer, Eucharistic devotions, sacrifice, and making atonements. Lucia’s job was to stick around on earth and keep working for the conversion of sinners. But Jacinta and Francisco had a different path.

If they were pleased to use the merits of their own sufferings to unite them with those of Christ’s (like Paul), and if they were anxious enough to be in heaven (which they’d already seen) that 9yo Francisco refused hospital treatment, and if Jacinta knew when and how she was going to die, and was perfectly fine with God’s will— why would any of us second-guess their paths, when we have enough trouble with our own? 🙂

“Why would a just God allow bad things to happen to good people” has been debated forever. The first answer that comes to mind is, “What did a just God allow to happen to the most perfect Person who ever walked the earth, and what happened to all his best friends and followers?”

St. Therese once said–
In light of heaven, the worst suffering on earth will be seen to be no more serious than one night in an inconvenient hotel
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as well as–
If this is how You treat Your friends, no wonder why You have so few of them!
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So yes, your sister isn’t the first one to pick up on it, so you can’t be hard on her— but she has to think it all the way through, rather than stopping at Observation Mode. 😉
 
I told her everyone replied but she doesn’t wanna know 😪 she said “stop telling me things I already know I studied about it the children where perfectly healthy before they had those visions”
 
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“stop telling me things I already know I studied about it the children where perfectly healthy before they had those visions”
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Haha. I’m sorry to hear that visions make you vulnerable to influenza. 😉 If that was the case, we wouldn’t need the flu shot— because the only people who would come down with the flu are people who see apparitions! 😛
 
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she said “stop telling me things I already know I studied about it the children where perfectly healthy before they had those visions”
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You’re not going to be able to give any answer that she’ll listen to, if that’s how she thinks.
 
Why is it necessarily a bad thing that He took them earlier than average? As St. Paul says, “My desire is to depart and be with Christ, for that is far better.” (Phili. 1:23)
 
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Point out that everyone is perfectly healthy… until they get sick… which happens…

Why should getting a vision from God protect you from such things?
 
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she said she studied Fatima a lot when she was catholic
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I don’t know your sister, but this sounds a bit like a ‘new protestant’ hit job too, something that she got from someone else; so you might want to be very deliberate in your response.
 
Who said God killed any of them? Was it Adam and Eve who brought sin and death into the world, or was it God? Do we place the deaths of children from cancer at God’s feet, or do we recognize that death is the result of our sinful nature? Do we actually believe that God has the answer to sin and death in his son Jesus Christ, who will one day return and resurrect us all bodily, and that at this time sin and death will be destroyed forevermore?
 
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she said “stop telling me things I already know I studied about it the children where perfectly healthy before they had those visions”
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The apostles were perfectly healthy before they met Jesus… and they were all murdered! (Except one.) . Guess that means that Jesus killed them! 😮
 
Wikipedia.

Francisco preferred to pray alone, saying that this would “console Jesus for the sins of the world”. Jacinta said she was deeply affected by a terrifying vision of Hell shown to the children at the third apparition, and deeply convinced of the need to save sinners through penance and sacrifice as the Virgin had told the children to do. All three children, but particularly Francisco and Jacinta, practised stringent self-mortifications to this end.[3] The Congregation for the Causes of Saints, in the report that confirmed Jacinta as beatified, observed that she seemed to have “an insatiable hunger for immolation.”[4]

The siblings were victims of the great 1918 influenza epidemic that swept through Europe that year. In October 1918, Jacinta told Lucia that Mary had appeared to her and promised to take them to heaven soon.[6] Both lingered for many months, insisting on walking to church to make Eucharistic devotions and prostrating themselves to pray for hours, kneeling with their heads on the ground as they said the angel had instructed them to do.[5]


From left to right: Jacinta Marto, Lúcia dos Santos and Francisco Marto, holding their rosaries in 1917

Francisco declined hospital treatment on 3 April 1919, and died at home the next day. Jacinta was moved from one hospital to another in an attempt to save her life, which she insisted was futile. She developed purulent pleurisy and endured an operation in which two of her ribs were removed. Because of the condition of her heart, she could not be fully anesthetized, and suffered terrible pain, which she said would help to convert many sinners. On 19 February 1920, Jacinta asked the hospital chaplain who heard her confession to bring her Holy Communion and administer Extreme Unction because she was going to die “the next night”. He told her that her condition was not that serious and that he would return the next day. The next day Jacinta was dead; she had died, as she had often said she would, alone.[8]
 
The above two extracts from an online Encyclopedia refer to the suffering of the children. When I first read the full story of Fatima I too was horrified at the suffering of the two youngest children, and shocked.

This was an awful period in world history during the First World War of course and their suffering was used in some way to help save many souls at that time. They may well have died of influenza in any event but the whole miracle of Fatima, including the suffering of the two youngest, was a powerful message to us. They were great souls and are honoured in heaven for the souls they helped to save not just at that time but since too, because this story is still fresh and still has the power to save.
May God bless them forever and may we preserve the memory of their sacrifices in perpetuity.
 
Don’t know, I don’t worship a god, I worship God. Sorry, people not capitalising the word “God” is one of my pet peeves. To address the question: As C.S. Lewis famously said in the Weight of Glory: “One hundred per cent of us die, and the percentage cannot be increased”.
 
she said if they where so close to god then why didn’t god heal them then she said “why didn’t Mary heal them” I said Mary doesn’t have to power to heal then she said “then why didn’t she ask god” she said the poor kids must of been so pressured up with people constantly asking them questions
 
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she said if they where so close to god t
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Nobody was closer to the Father than Jesus, but He died anyway.

But in your sister’s defense, a lot of believers think that if they are close enough to God, bad things won’t happen to them.
 
And I said this to her but she said “they where murdered but dying of disease is different”
 
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