Why do we mock people who claim to have seen a dragon yet a person who claims to have seen an angel is never mocked?

[AdamStgg]

i mean they are both claims but one much more likely to get you publicly ridiculed than the other.

 

[Scottgun]

I don’t mock people who say they’ve seen a dragon. A good Catholic friend told me that his daughter said she saw a small dragon in her room and the dragon said his name was Juno (as in the pagan god). The girl is too young to be familiar with that name and does not have a habit of lying, so I am inclined to believe it.

I seem to recall that in some Old English annals they reported on one year, “a dragon appeared in the sky”. Now, I can’t say if it was actually a dragon or not, but it seems reasonable that they saw something that made them write that. What the heck was it?

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

I don’t mock people who say they’ve seen a dragon. A good Catholic friend told me that his daughter said she saw a small dragon in her room and the dragon said his name was Juno (as in the pagan god). The girl is too young to be familiar with that name and does not have a habit of lying, so I am inclined to believe it.

Bingo! I would say that if one sees a dragon, it won’t be the friendly Puff - although it may appear that way. These spirits can appear as they wish to be seen.

I seem to recall that in some Old English annals they reported on one year, “a dragon appeared in the sky”. Now, I can’t say if it was actually a dragon or not, but it seems reasonable that they saw something that made them write that. What the heck was it?

Interesting. If you find out anything else about it, please share that.

Peace…

MW

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

i mean they are both claims but one much more likely to get you publicly ridiculed than the other.

People have a set boundary of beliefs usually - it’s embedded in their subconscious mind. Any information that seems different is usually rejected. If Christians believe in angels it’s because the Bible teaches about it and we are brought up believing it. Dragons are a different “animal” altogether.

I won’t ridicule anyone who says they have seen a dragon. I would assume they are seeing a dark spirit. If it was a fleshly dragon that you could poke with a stick I might wonder though Either way, just because I haven’t seen one doesn’t mean they don’t exist.

Peace…

MW

 

[Marsha_Adams]

If it was a fleshly dragon that you could poke with a stick I might wonder though

My personal advice is that if you see a fleshly dragon, you probably SHOULD NOT poke it with a stick. Such behavior could provoke adverse effects.

You can mock a person who claims to see dragons because it is such an unlikely event the individual was probably either Under the Influence or nuts.

You cannot mock a person who claims to see angels because although such an event is unlikely and the individual **might be **either Under the Influence or nuts it would be rude and totally not politically correct. Worse there is always the possibility that the individual DID see an angel in which case it would be inadvisable to give offense.

 

[Layp3rs0n]

Interesting topic. I would be certain that the girl who saw the dragon in her room named Juno saw a fallen angel. Poor girl. I would exorcise the room. It is also interesting that most if not all cultures have dragon mythologies. One explanation is not that they are all demons taking on the forms of dragons, however. Many of our protestant brothers and sisters are creationists. They hold that the six day creation account in Genesis is litereal and that Adam and Eve were created on the same day as the dinosaurs. Now I don’t mean that I believe that but it IS possible that dinosaurs did not become completely extinct 65 million years ago. In South America for example, there are reports from the natives of a creature they call Mokole Mmbembe,(or One who stops up rivers). The description fits perfectly that of a saurapod dinosaur. There are also cave paintings of dinosaurs, drawn way before the “discovery” of these animals. And hen the ancient chinese found dinosaur fossils in the ground they thought they were the bones of dragons, even used them in their medicine. So, I think it may be possible to see a real “dragon” if you look hard enough.

 

[Mystic_Warrior]

My personal advice is that if you see a fleshly dragon, you probably SHOULD NOT poke it with a stick. Such behavior could provoke adverse effects.

Yes, good advice. I think I would refrain from poking it. Although, like one of my favorite people in Scripture, Tobit, I would make a poisonous meal for it to make up for poking it Nasty bugger wouldn’t have a chance

You can mock a person who claims to see dragons because it is such an unlikely event the individual was probably either Under the Influence or nuts.

It would be unlikely, unless it was of demonic nature. I hesitate to diagnose anyone as nuts. If they had drank a fifth of liquor that day I would take that into account.

You cannot mock a person who claims to see angels because although such an event is unlikely and the individual **might be **either Under the Influence or nuts it would be rude and totally not politically correct. Worse there is always the possibility that the individual DID see an angel in which case it would be inadvisable to give offense.

I don’t think seeing spirits is all that weird. And it depends on what the angel or dragon said that I would find most important. I don’t care about being PC myself.

Peace…

MW

 

[seeking_light]

what year was the dragon seen? in scandanavia about 1050 a canabalistic tribe terrorised vilages by forming the siloet of a wyvern (a type of small dragon, presumably with some sort of kite or flag) , they then would charge through the country side in a snake like patern seting fire to everythigh in there path the viligers would then panic and trample several members to death in the rush to escape. the canables ate the remaining dead.

still it begers the question where they got the idea from?

there was also a report filed of a grate lizzared twice and half a big again as a cow with wing buds like insect grub terrorising the rabbit farmers near gogmagog hills in the 1100’s the report was filed only because " of all our hunting dogs pitched again the lazy beaste we only got half back by that i meen all that were left was there backsides in one bite."
gogmagog hills are in the south of england and untill the 1800’s you could still see the giants (incidently also pagan gods) carved into the hillside they are now obscured .

 

[cpayne]

i mean they are both claims but one much more likely to get you publicly ridiculed than the other.

Has anyone you know of claimed to have seen a dragon lately?

Besides, they are not the same type of claim. Anyone claiming to see a dragon should be able to produce a carcass eventually, or a nest, or something. I don’t think you could do the same with angels.

 

[Sarpedon]

People judge things more likely to be true based on the framework they appear in. Angels and other spiritual entitities work within a reasonable (in their estimation) framework of God and the supernatural. Physical dragons, on the other hand, are deemed unlikely because after so many years the likelihood of finding large unknown animals is low. In the context of scientific discovery, such creatures are not as reasonable.

 

[Wolseley]

In South America for example, there are reports from the natives of a creature they call Mokole Mmbembe,(or One who stops up rivers). The description fits perfectly that of a saurapod dinosaur. There are also cave paintings of dinosaurs, drawn way before the “discovery” of these animals. And hen the ancient chinese found dinosaur fossils in the ground they thought they were the bones of dragons, even used them in their medicine.

Actually, Mokole Mbembe hails from the Congo Basin in Africa, rather than South America, but in general, you’re correct: there are hundreds of examples of humans sighting “dragons” which were in all likelihood dinosaurs, and they’ve left us many, many examples of it in primitive artwork worldwide. Check out this site: genesispark.org/genpark/ancient/ancient.htm

Don’t tell the paleontologists, though—they get snippy with stuff like this, because it blows their neat little chronologies hell, west, and crooked.

 

[coda]

i mean they are both claims but one much more likely to get you publicly ridiculed than the other.

Interesting— i would be more sure the latter INSTEAD of he former would get more of a disagreeable response from people…

 

[Contarini]

i mean they are both claims but one much more likely to get you publicly ridiculed than the other.

Because there are faith communities within which the existence of angels is accepted, and many people in popular culture have been influenced by those faith communities even if they don’t wholly subscribe to their norms.

Among educated, critical, secular people, one is going to get you mocked as much as the other, with perhaps the slight exception that a believer in angels will be regarded as a gullible adherent of their faith community, while a believer in dragons will be seen as an imaginative and idiosyncratic lunatic.

Myself, I would not automatically mock someone who said they had seen a dragon. I’d be skeptical, but interested. I am also fairly skeptical (though naturally somewhat less so, since I’m a Christian) of someone claiming to have seen an angel.

Edwin