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littleone
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Why do the people question God’s being through only Catholic reasoning?
BIG question???
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littleone
BIG question???
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Scott_D
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There is only one God. There is only one Church.
Who are “the people?”
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Della
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We don’t, actually. There are several Protestant writers that we can use for our spiritual growth. C. S. Lewis, Corrie Tenboom, Billy Graham all come immediately to mind.
Of course, Protestants have also benefited from reading Fulton Sheen, St. Teresa of Avila, G. K. Chesterton, and all the great Saints.
As long as there is nothing that contradicts Catholic teaching, any writings by nearly any Christian and some non-Christians can be used for spiritual nourishment.
Of course, Protestants have also benefited from reading Fulton Sheen, St. Teresa of Avila, G. K. Chesterton, and all the great Saints.
As long as there is nothing that contradicts Catholic teaching, any writings by nearly any Christian and some non-Christians can be used for spiritual nourishment.
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jmcrae
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Probably because we are the largest religion, and our teachings are quite well-known, so most people are familiar with it, and can feel like other people know what they’re talking about, when they challenge the Catholic concept of God. Also, it seems to me that a lot of the people who are actually thinking critically enough about God to either accept or reject Him attended Catholic schools at some point in their lives.
But yeah, I know what you mean - there is a real sense out there that people are either Catholics, or atheists. There doesn’t seem to be any public discourse about what’s in between the two.
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littleone
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Hey never thought I would get answers ( heart felt and positive answers as I have).
I asked this because, and I don’t know if you know of the vidios called "the transformations that happened in South America America/Mexeco, Scottland, Fiji and other places?
they are what got me thinking about “other people”
I have five os so of these “Transformation” vidios and they are remarkable.
Have you seen them, know anything about them?
Lastly, can you see why i would point the question about “other people”?
We are all God’s childrenregardless so why not “ALL people” as one?
Whew! a lot of questions
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littleone
I asked this because, and I don’t know if you know of the vidios called "the transformations that happened in South America America/Mexeco, Scottland, Fiji and other places?
they are what got me thinking about “other people”
I have five os so of these “Transformation” vidios and they are remarkable.
Have you seen them, know anything about them?
Lastly, can you see why i would point the question about “other people”?
We are all God’s childrenregardless so why not “ALL people” as one?
Whew! a lot of questions
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James924
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I don’t know what the transformation videos are. Are they about revivals and charismatic gifts and Other such good things happening among other Christians? If so, it is ok to see and acknowledge these things.
Remember, God’s man was Moses…but when people noticed that people who were not with Moses were prophecying, did he rebuke them? Nope. He said, they have the gifts of God… Good for them (paraphrasing). However, Moses WAS God’s chosen leader, God’s established leader of the people…so what was more important? Having gifts like prophecy (which is good)? Or being a part of God’s established group under God’s established leader? I say the latter one.
Same with the apostles telling Jesus that people who were NOT followers of Jesus were casting out demons in His name. Jesus said, “they are doing stuff in my name, that’s legitimate, good for them.”. So it was ok to acknowledge and even appreciate that these people who were not among Jesus’ disciples were doing good things in His name. But still, what was more important? Doing things in His name (which is good), or being a part of His established group of followers? Being part of His established group of followers is more important. (Best is to have Both)
Remember, Jesus also said He has other sheep who are not in His flock. We can look at other sheep outside of his official and established flock and acknowledge, appreciate and even learn from good things they do in His name…but always remember that He has an established flock and it’s more important to be part of it.
I, personally, am on my third time through a wonderful evangelical Protestant 12 DVD program called “Truth Project” by focus on the family. There are many good things to be learned from it. Nothing new that hasn’t already been taught by the Catholic church in the past 2,000 years, but still well delivered and passionate.
We should thank God we are of his Flock and we should also love and appreciate our seperated brothers and sisters who, although they choose to seperate themselves by a fence, still serve him passionately and do good things in his name.
I am typing this on my phone so forgive me for spelling errors!
Remember, God’s man was Moses…but when people noticed that people who were not with Moses were prophecying, did he rebuke them? Nope. He said, they have the gifts of God… Good for them (paraphrasing). However, Moses WAS God’s chosen leader, God’s established leader of the people…so what was more important? Having gifts like prophecy (which is good)? Or being a part of God’s established group under God’s established leader? I say the latter one.
Same with the apostles telling Jesus that people who were NOT followers of Jesus were casting out demons in His name. Jesus said, “they are doing stuff in my name, that’s legitimate, good for them.”. So it was ok to acknowledge and even appreciate that these people who were not among Jesus’ disciples were doing good things in His name. But still, what was more important? Doing things in His name (which is good), or being a part of His established group of followers? Being part of His established group of followers is more important. (Best is to have Both)
Remember, Jesus also said He has other sheep who are not in His flock. We can look at other sheep outside of his official and established flock and acknowledge, appreciate and even learn from good things they do in His name…but always remember that He has an established flock and it’s more important to be part of it.
I, personally, am on my third time through a wonderful evangelical Protestant 12 DVD program called “Truth Project” by focus on the family. There are many good things to be learned from it. Nothing new that hasn’t already been taught by the Catholic church in the past 2,000 years, but still well delivered and passionate.
We should thank God we are of his Flock and we should also love and appreciate our seperated brothers and sisters who, although they choose to seperate themselves by a fence, still serve him passionately and do good things in his name.
I am typing this on my phone so forgive me for spelling errors!
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Della
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Just to add a thought to James excellent post, we Catholics are bound to the laws of the Church. That means we are to avail ourselves of the Sacraments of the Church as the ordinary way of receiving God’s grace. Why is that important? Because the Church was founded by Christ and we are to follow the Church Christ founded.
What does this mean for those who are not Catholic? Does it mean they cannot receive God’s grace? No, it doesn’t. Why? Because God is not bound by the Sacraments, only those who know what God demands are bound by his law. We Catholics know what God demands and so we are bound to his law.
God pours out his grace to anyone who reaches out to him due to his limitless mercy and love. This does not mean, though that we shouldn’t let people know what God demands and invite them to enter into full communion with his Church. Non-Catholic Christians are in partial communion with the Church due to their baptism, you see. So, it’s not like they are complete reprobates who have rejected God’s grace, mercy and love.
One day we will all be one when all others see their need to be in full communion with the Church Christ founded. We are to work towards that end by being understanding of them and helpful to them. I hope that helps.
What does this mean for those who are not Catholic? Does it mean they cannot receive God’s grace? No, it doesn’t. Why? Because God is not bound by the Sacraments, only those who know what God demands are bound by his law. We Catholics know what God demands and so we are bound to his law.
God pours out his grace to anyone who reaches out to him due to his limitless mercy and love. This does not mean, though that we shouldn’t let people know what God demands and invite them to enter into full communion with his Church. Non-Catholic Christians are in partial communion with the Church due to their baptism, you see. So, it’s not like they are complete reprobates who have rejected God’s grace, mercy and love.
One day we will all be one when all others see their need to be in full communion with the Church Christ founded. We are to work towards that end by being understanding of them and helpful to them. I hope that helps.
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Lifeisawesome
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Della - excellent thoughts here. One important note. We are willingly “bound.” For those who don’t understand all the dimensions of our submission, this term is key.Just to add a thought to James excellent post, we Catholics are bound to the laws of the Church. That means we are to avail ourselves of the Sacraments of the Church as the ordinary way of receiving God’s grace. Why is that important? Because the Church was founded by Christ and we are to follow the Church Christ founded.
What does this mean for those who are not Catholic? Does it mean they cannot receive God’s grace? No, it doesn’t. Why? Because God is not bound by the Sacraments, only those who know what God demands are bound by his law. We Catholics know what God demands and so we are bound to his law.
God pours out his grace to anyone who reaches out to him due to his limitless mercy and love. This does not mean, though that we shouldn’t let people know what God demands and invite them to enter into full communion with his Church. Non-Catholic Christians are in partial communion with the Church due to their baptism, you see. So, it’s not like they are complete reprobates who have rejected God’s grace, mercy and love.
One day we will all be one when all others see their need to be in full communion with the Church Christ founded. We are to work towards that end by being understanding of them and helpful to them. I hope that helps.
God bless!
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littleone
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The vidios I mentioned (transformation) are from christians worldwide.
Some catholic some(most) not and manny were not any religion.
In Chile, Our Lord told this Apostolic minister to go to a city in Argentine where the head drug gangs lived. He was to pray every day for the release of the town from murder, prostitution, druggs etc. The minister asked for time to pray in a building where only he his wife and the odd other person came. They prayed day in and day out. Over time others joined them until after some 7 months around 100 began to come.
As time went by the number began to grow to the point where cnanges started to come about a well known witch who had much (so called) power over the people came and threatened the minister and then screamed and left. By now there were so manycomming that the minister asked for the top soccor areaner which was given to him since the Mayor had seen the change in the city. 100,000 were coming to the arena and by now the Police has gained the strength to round up the drug barons who were put into prison for life.
The Mayor by now gave free use of the arenas for the use of prayer by which some 5, to 800,000 were now coming.
In Mexeco the same and photos show shops that had starange names changed to praising Jesus on every town shop. American scientists came to find out how the food crops were growing so large, what was the manure was being used? They were told that they had been praying over their cropps and the vidio showed carrots as long as your armes, Beetroot as big as your heads, and other. The scientists could not …would not believe it, but the vidio showed it. In the town where there used to be 12 pubs there are now NONE and 12 churches in their places.
In Alaska the vidio shows the town heads telling where there were so many murders ( the cemetrys shown) and youth who had taken their own lives.
Women got together sick of the situation and began to pray and the change happened to the seals bear, coming back, grass started (is shown) growing, In Fiji at the time of George Brake (I think)… who caused the riote there. He was put to prison people came together to pray and it showed streams dry and they became flowing streams again, people coming together instead of fighting rioting, the place drying up.
Women in Scotland prayed in groups where people asked them why there was light on all night in their houses, they said they didn’t know on investigation the power of prayer viduals caused the light of the Holy Spirit to shine. The vidio shows some 8 to 10 houses lit up from this power through prayer.
I could carry on but I guess you get the point.
It is the desire to pray and pray and pray, and God will change our waywood hearts. People will change, come away from their sinful lives.
It takes Christians to start it, yes, Catholics to start it
Godbless
littleone
Some catholic some(most) not and manny were not any religion.
In Chile, Our Lord told this Apostolic minister to go to a city in Argentine where the head drug gangs lived. He was to pray every day for the release of the town from murder, prostitution, druggs etc. The minister asked for time to pray in a building where only he his wife and the odd other person came. They prayed day in and day out. Over time others joined them until after some 7 months around 100 began to come.
As time went by the number began to grow to the point where cnanges started to come about a well known witch who had much (so called) power over the people came and threatened the minister and then screamed and left. By now there were so manycomming that the minister asked for the top soccor areaner which was given to him since the Mayor had seen the change in the city. 100,000 were coming to the arena and by now the Police has gained the strength to round up the drug barons who were put into prison for life.
The Mayor by now gave free use of the arenas for the use of prayer by which some 5, to 800,000 were now coming.
In Mexeco the same and photos show shops that had starange names changed to praising Jesus on every town shop. American scientists came to find out how the food crops were growing so large, what was the manure was being used? They were told that they had been praying over their cropps and the vidio showed carrots as long as your armes, Beetroot as big as your heads, and other. The scientists could not …would not believe it, but the vidio showed it. In the town where there used to be 12 pubs there are now NONE and 12 churches in their places.
In Alaska the vidio shows the town heads telling where there were so many murders ( the cemetrys shown) and youth who had taken their own lives.
Women got together sick of the situation and began to pray and the change happened to the seals bear, coming back, grass started (is shown) growing, In Fiji at the time of George Brake (I think)… who caused the riote there. He was put to prison people came together to pray and it showed streams dry and they became flowing streams again, people coming together instead of fighting rioting, the place drying up.
Women in Scotland prayed in groups where people asked them why there was light on all night in their houses, they said they didn’t know on investigation the power of prayer viduals caused the light of the Holy Spirit to shine. The vidio shows some 8 to 10 houses lit up from this power through prayer.
I could carry on but I guess you get the point.
It is the desire to pray and pray and pray, and God will change our waywood hearts. People will change, come away from their sinful lives.
It takes Christians to start it, yes, Catholics to start it
Godbless
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Della
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When we see people giving their lives to such service, it should inspire us. And it should move us to be open to doing whatever God asks of us. Some of us are called to such heroic acts, and others of us are called to be faithful where we are.
Prayer can come in many forms, after all. St. Therese of Lisieux never did anything spectacular, never went to the mission field, and yet she is a Doctor of the Church and Patroness of Missions. She lived her life in imitation of Christ in everything she said and did–that’s “all”.
Now that is truly inspiring to me because God would much rather I imitate him in that way than dream of doing great things and never really doing as he has asked. We need to be ready to go wherever God wants and do whatever he asks, but we ought to first be doing all he asks of us where he has put us.
Prayer can come in many forms, after all. St. Therese of Lisieux never did anything spectacular, never went to the mission field, and yet she is a Doctor of the Church and Patroness of Missions. She lived her life in imitation of Christ in everything she said and did–that’s “all”.
Now that is truly inspiring to me because God would much rather I imitate him in that way than dream of doing great things and never really doing as he has asked. We need to be ready to go wherever God wants and do whatever he asks, but we ought to first be doing all he asks of us where he has put us.
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littleone
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I agree with you here and have been guided by God through the power of faith in St Therese the little flower. Those people i guess were guided there to pray. I don’t think i mentioned that Many of those praying were NOT christians and were guided there by the holy spirit.When we see people giving their lives to such service, it should inspire us. And it should move us to be open to doing whatever God asks of us. Some of us are called to such heroic acts, and others of us are called to be faithful where we are.
Prayer can come in many forms, after all. St. Therese of Lisieux never did anything spectacular, never went to the mission field, and yet she is a Doctor of the Church and Patroness of Missions. She lived her life in imitation of Christ in everything she said and did–that’s “all”.
Now that is truly inspiring to me because God would much rather I imitate him in that way than dream of doing great things and never really doing as he has asked. We need to be ready to go wherever God wants and do whatever he asks, but we ought to first be doing all he asks of us where he has put us.
And yes in the right place and the right time and ESPECIALY because GOD told us to then that is right. God DOES NOT want our offerings He Desires only our OBEDIANCE to His will.
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