Why European women are turning to Islam

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In fact, she explains, she liked the way “Islam demands a closeness to God. Islam is simpler, more rigorous, and it’s easier because it is explicit. I was looking for a framework; man needs rules and behavior to follow. Christianity did not give me the same reference points.” When this woman says she was raised Catholic… she must have missed the structure of our Church and the structure of Mass.

"There is more space for family and motherhood in Islam, and women are not sex objects." Wish she would understand sexuality in the eye of Catholicism… she might have actually learned something. And I’m sorry, but when a person of a religion publishes something on how to beat your woman without leaving marks… how is that respect for a woman? And how is forcing them to walk behind a man, not being able to drive a car, forcing them to wear a burqa, etc, etc… oh yeah, not allowing girls’ to go to school… so I might touch on a few aspects of extreme Islam… but still,

She missed the boat and if she would have done some honest looking, she more than certainly would have found it in her “childhood Catholicism.”
 
Most newly converted Muslims are shocked to see racism when they make their first pilgrimage to Mecca. I remember seeing a National Geographic on the hajj. There was a black African who got kicked out trying to pray in tent occupied by some Arabs. He was like we are Muslims. Shh, you are Muslim alright! That’s a religion of peace and oneness, ladies and gentlemen!
 
Ever heard “things taster sweeter on somebody else’s dish?”

Since my conversion to Judaism and re-version to Catholicism, I was always very interested why people leave the Catholic Faith and reading their stories, I can understand her because I left probably because of the same reason - I just converted to Judaism - the more I read about the different religions, the more I come to the point they don’t really teach much differences - but they extremely different pictures and metaphores and often kids heard the “christian” message too much in a unserious way, that they rather follow the one of another group. It sounds new fresh interesting…

Just thoughts…
  • no religion brings forth only good people - about Mekka.
    I just spoke to my ex-husband about the 3 wise men who come to the manger to worship, i said “one is black. Black? He asked. Catholics hate blacks.” When he was growing up, every catholic he knew, hated blacks. Doesn’t make it a catholic trait, does it?
He is always astonished what I say about Catholicism (he is jewish), sometimes theory and action don’t go together - goes for all religion.

Brigitte
 
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Most newly converted Muslims are shocked to see racism when they make their first pilgrimage to Mecca. I remember seeing a National Geographic on the hajj. There was a black African who got kicked out trying to pray in tent occupied by some Arabs. He was like we are Muslims. Shh, you are Muslim alright! That’s a religion of peace and oneness, ladies and gentlemen!
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Racism. May Allah protect us from ignorance. The actions of some Muslims does not define what Islam permits or prohibits. It is a religion of peace and one that calls for unity of the believers.

A real story that happened over 1400 years ago:

One of the companions called Abu Durr called the comapanion Bilal " ya ibn alsawdaa"(O’ son of a black woman)

The prophet Muhammad(pbuh) heard him say that and told Abu Darr:" You are a man who still upholds some traits of the era of ignorance ( jahilia)"

Abu Darr then went away thinking about what the prophet (pbuh) told him and was very sorry.So he went back to the companion Bilal and threw himself to the ground and told Bilal to put his foot on his face to compensate for the insult.

Bilal then said"By Allah i will not put my foot on the face that has prostrated to Allah" and then he helped Abu Darr up and they embraced.

From the Prophet’s last public speech**----“All mankind is from Adam and Eve, an Arab has no superiority over a non-Arab nor a non-Arab has any superiority over an Arab; also a white has no superiority over a black nor a black has any superiority over a white - except by piety and good action”**
 
I saw this quote by Malcolm X on his Haj experience, and thought it would be interesting to share:

"There were tens of thousands of pilgrims, from all over the world. They were of all colors, from blue-eyed blondes to black-skinned Africans. But we were all participating in the same ritual, displaying a spirit of unity and brotherhood that my experiences in America had led me to believe never could exist between the white and non-white.
"America needs to understand Islam, because this is the one religion that erases from its society the race problem. Throughout my travels in the Muslim world, I have met, talked to, and even eaten with people who in America would have been considered white - but the white attitude was removed from their minds by the religion of Islam. I have never before seen sincere and true brotherhood practiced by all colors together, irrespective of their color.
"You may be shocked by these words coming from me. But on this pilgrimage, what I have seen, and experienced, has forced me to rearrange much of my thought-patterns previously held, and to toss aside some of my previous conclusions. This was not too difficult for me. Despite my firm convictions, I have always been a man who tries to face facts, and to accept the reality of life as new experience and new knowledge unfolds it. I have always kept an open mind, which is necessary to the flexibility that must go hand in hand with every form of intelligent search for truth.
"During the past eleven days here in the Muslim world, I have eaten from the same plate, drunk from the same glass, and slept on the same rug - while praying to the same God - with fellow Muslims, whose eyes were the bluest of blue, whose hair was the blondest of blond, and whose skin was the whitest of white. And in the words and in the deeds of the white Muslims, I felt the same sincerity that I felt among the black African Muslims of Nigeria, Sudan and Ghana.
"We were truly all the same (brothers) - because their belief in one God had removed the white from their minds, the white from their behavior, and the white from their attitude.
"I could see from this, that perhaps if white Americans could accept the Oneness of God, then perhaps, too, they could accept in reality the Oneness of Man - and cease to measure, and hinder, and harm others in terms of their ‘differences’ in color.
 
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There was a black African who got kicked out trying to pray in tent occupied by some Arabs. He was like we are Muslims. Shh, you are Muslim alright! That’s a religion of peace and oneness, ladies and gentlemen!
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It wasn’t that long ago, within the lifetime of many Americans, that Christian churches used to do the same thing here in the U.S.

From the article:
“New converts feel they have to prove themselves,” adds Dr. Ranstorp. “Those who seek more extreme ways of proving themselves can become extraordinarily easy prey to manipulation.”
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At the same time, says al-Toma, converts seeking respite in Islam from a troubled past - such as Degauque, who had reportedly drifted in and out of drugs and jobs before converting to Islam - might be persuaded that such an “ultimate action” as a suicide bomb attack offered an opportunity for salvation and forgiveness.
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“The saddest conclusion” al-Toma draws from Degauque’s death in Iraq is that “a woman who set out on the road to inner peace became a victim of people who set out to use and abuse her.”
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This is indeed sad. Not all followers of a religion are enlightened by its spirit. This is true whether the religion be Islam, Christianity or any other. There are wolves among the sheep.
 
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