Why Evangelicals are returning

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I’m a former Evangelical (AoG) who left it for Anglicanism. It was mainly due to differences over cultural and political issues, not theology. I just refuse to be associated with a movement that’s so identified with the “Religious Right”. I briefly considered going all the way to Catholicism, but nope, not possible, too many major doctrinal disagreements. I don’t really think y’all want more Garry Wills kind of Catholics, and that’s the only kind I could be.
 
Izdaari said:
I’m a former Evangelical (AoG) who left it for Anglicanism. It was mainly due to differences over cultural and political issues, not theology. I just refuse to be associated with a movement that’s so identified with the “Religious Right”. I briefly considered going all the way to Catholicism, but nope, not possible, too many major doctrinal disagreements. I don’t really think y’all want more Garry Wills kind of Catholics, and that’s the only kind I could be.
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who is Garry Wills?
 
A very interesting Catholic writer and historian, who used to write for National Review. He was a friend of William F. Buckley, Jr.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Wills

Books I’ve read by him:

*What Paul Meant
What Jesus Meant
Why I Am a Catholic
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I have Papal Sin, but haven’t started it yet.

But as to why y’all wouldn’t want more like him? Well, he’s generally conservative on theology, but pretty liberal WRT papal infallibility, the magisterium, and most social issues. As I would be if I were Catholic.
 
CopticChristian said:
Ben,

While I understand your position. Eric wants you and all others to return to the topic of why Evangelicals are returning. It is fact that all Protestant thought sprang from the Reformation/split and the relevance is that those that are products of that split are returning from where that split occured.

Eric asks for topical posts.👍
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Sorry! I really was trying to be on topic - we Luterans do view ourselves as evangelical, but not those evangelicals. 🙂

The prosperity-evangelicals that I have seen turn to traditional churches did so after they started listening to God via Logos, and stopped listening to their charismatic preacher. I endeavor to help such people, a cautious appeal to logic and reason seem to help them see their leaders for what they are.
 
Izdaari said:
But as to why y’all wouldn’t want more like him? Well, he’s generally conservative on theology, but pretty liberal WRT papal infallibility, the magisterium, and most social issues. As I would be if I were Catholic.
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You never know, Iz, I might prefer you over Pelosi or Biden…
 
Izdaari said:
A very interesting Catholic writer and historian, who used to write for National Review. He was a friend of William F. Buckley, Jr.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garry_Wills

Books I’ve read by him:

*What Paul Meant
What Jesus Meant
Why I Am a Catholic
*
I have Papal Sin, but haven’t started it yet.

But as to why y’all wouldn’t want more like him? Well, he’s generally conservative on theology, but pretty liberal WRT papal infallibility, the magisterium, and most social issues. As I would be if I were Catholic.
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Iz,

Coming from the Pacific Northwest how did you manifest a “y’all”…?
 
Stilldreamn said:
we are discovering that the divergence in our belief and practice is small.
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In my opinion, Luther would have been mostly content in the Catholic as it is now. Luther has essentially won - reform just took a few more years to come to fruition.

If anything, I’m hoping a vigorous Catholic church will help reform some of our more wayward Lutherans - some churches in the ELCA that seem to think that popular voting on doctrine is a good idea.
 
stewstew03 said:
Great - when will you begin RCIA?
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Thanks for the offer - I appreciate it, and would love to be at the table with you.

I think once the Catholic church figures out the East/West split, that will be the time. I would dearly love a fully reconciled universal church united on principles and love of God. But, I think a variety of liturgical modes and judicious local governance are required to bring as many people to God as possible, and I think the Catholic church needs to figure out that framework.

For me, I never would have been a Christian had it not been for the Lutheran church - the full and might Catholic church was too daunting for me. I needed a small Lutheran church full of sweet little old ladies with coffee and donuts to make me welcome. While there’s an SSPX church I know that would have filled that role, they would have been still too daunting for me.
 
CopticChristian said:
to Rome…

Below is an interesting YouTube video (really audio) of an Evangelical Radio show in which two Evangelicals discuss why so many Evangelical Protestants are leaving to join the Catholic Church.

The host and guest are trying to be honest in the show entitled “Why Evangelicals are Returning to Rome.” Although towards the end of the video they are making some statements that are historically inaccurate (about Luther and the Popes); nevertheless, their questioning tries to be honest. It is interesting that they are taking note of a large exodus. I am one of those who Crossed the Tiber to Rome.

Furthermore, this was coming from a Protestant network that is decidedly anti-Catholic. They are willing to discuss openly what has been happening for years now (the exodus of Evangelical ordained ministers to Catholic and Eastern Orthodox Churches). They also mention briefly EWTN, the program Journey Home and the moderator Marcus Grodi, a convert from Evangelical Christianity. It is obvious this is all new to them since they didn’t even know how to pronounce Marcus Grodi’s name.

catholic-convert.com/2011/05/10/evangelicals-becoming-catholic-why/

Sola Scriptura is dead…

Welcome Home Evangelicals…we are not selling Indulgences…that has been reformed…🙂
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I think they moved your video. I had to do a search to find it.
Here it is now:
catholic-convert.com/2012/05/24/evangelicals-becoming-catholic-why/
 
Is it possable that some Evangelicals come here to “save” us and get converted themselves.
 
tabycat said:
Is it possable that some Evangelicals come here to “save” us and get converted themselves.
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Tab,

My experience with Evangelicals is that they come here to be “ecumenical” because that is part of the movement. In their ecumenism, they know little of what they believe, emphasizing “a personal relationship”, not knowing that they are addressing those of us here that see that relationship quite well as family relations. They neglect the dispensational roots that they have as they are “doctrine light” in favor of the personal relationship believing they bring something new. That is my experience.🙂
 
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