Why fight SSM?

[Insight]

It passed, but Obama voted against it 3X in effort to stop it. And to think that he was honored at a Catholic University (Notre Dame) is enough to make a Catholic sick.

 

[sw85]

Why are Catholics suppose to fight Same Sex Marriage as a civil union? Upon asking this, I am not in favor of SSM, but you know what I just don’t care enough to try and make it illegal. It’s a losing battle that puts the Catholic Church in the line of fire of liberals and gays for no reason at all. History will depict the Church as an evil oppressive institution that would put them in the same light we put Southerners during the Civil Rights movement.

It’s God’s judgment we have to worry about, not history’s.

Homosexuality is an objective evil. Those who practice it and die unrepentant are very likely bound for Hell. To throw our hands up in the air in surrender is profoundly uncharitable. We owe it to our brothers and sisters not to let them be consumed by sin.

We don’t fight to make divorce illegal, in fact to do that would be stupid and dangerous to those placed in an enviroment with an abusive spouse.

Conversely, we ought to do just that. A society in which people can divorce easily is one in which they are never meaningfully married. FYI, the Church permits divorce (which in Catholic parlance means something akin to “legal separation”) in cases of spousal abuse and we have means of protecting those people, anyway.

So to be a good Catholic do you have to vote in ways that makes gay civil marriage illegal?

Yes, if you choose to vote (and don’t have a more compelling rationale for casting your vote than “I don’t care about gay marriage”).

Is just not voting on this issue enough to not be condemned to Hell over other peoples sins?

I imagine not, if you have good reason. I don’t, because I hate democracy and would rather not participate in the corrupt farce.

I just hate the idea that more people are going to Hell over another persons sin, that just because they don’t care that gays play pretend marriage with government approval that is enough of a reason to send a Catholic to Hell for eternity.

Admonishing sinners is a work of charity. If you fail to do it, you are failing in your moral duty. If you refuse to do it as a matter of obstinance, then you are committing a mortal sin. And if you persist in it stubbornly then Hell is simply the state of being you have chosen for yourself. What do you expect God to do? Strip you of your free will and force you to accept His grace?

SSM is between two consenting adults. Children and animals can’t consent.

So? We don’t get children’s consent before we send them to public school or animals’ consent before we slaughter them for food or shear their excess fur or wool for clothing. Moreover, incest can be consensual – why not legitimize that?

The slope is slippier than you seem to think.

 

[LilyM]

I’d love to know where these stereotypes come from.

Paedophilia has nothing to do with the fact that some ADULTS are attracted to other ADULTS (not children) of the same gender. Might as well say that heterosexual marriage makes men more likely to abuse their daughters or other underage girls.

And why the stereotype that pedophilia is mostly same-sex in nature anyway? I have yet to see any evidence that adults are more likely to abuse a child of the same gender than the opposite one.

It’s a slippery slope. At first the gays pushed to have their perversion re-classified as normal. Back in the 70’s most people probably found the idea of actual “marriage” to be ludicrous or repulsive.

But the gays pushed for this right and that, now to the point we are accepting “marriage” as OK, with all the tragedy that entails: children’s lives ruined and their minds warped, and pedophilia on the rise in homosexual unions where kids are adopted.

But now that the “gay culture” dominates our society and apparently our courts, the next fight is pedophilia. Did you read about the conference recently? Not NAMBLA or some fringe group. No, professors, doctors, social workers, and various respectable, educated people from top universities and institutes. They all got together to discuss HOW TO LEGALIZE SEX WITH CHILDREN. After all, it is a natural expression of love (just what the gays said).

Why fight anything wrong? What is next on this slippery slope? Polygamy? Any limit? 3 wives? 10 wives? Is that wrong and worth fighting?

How about bestiality? I mean, after all what I do with my own donkey in the privacy of my own bedroom is my civil right!

Necrophilia? Hey, I think it’s gross, but why should I impose on your feelings? If you like that, you have every right to do it. Maybe they can use those unclaimed corpses of criminals at the morgue?

As for Divorce, the Church and bishops did speak out against no-fault divorce (which is what made divorce easy and common in this country), they could see that was also a slippery slope leading to broken homes which destroy children’s self-esteem and peace of mind.