Why hasn't there been any stories of people "snapping out of" nirvana or even sotapanna and converting to Christianity?

[Ben_Sinner]

These are “states” in Buddhism where one reaches unshakable faith, meaning it is literally impossible for them to doubt it, in what they understand to be what reality is really like (and it isn’t compatible with Christianity). Such things as there is no ‘I’, there is no beginning or end, there is no God, etc.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sot%C4%81panna

Doubt about the Buddha, his teaching (Dharma), and his community (Sangha) is eradicated because the sotāpanna personally experiences the true nature of reality through insight, and this insight confirms the accuracy of the Buddha’s teaching. Seeing removes doubt, because the sight is a form of vision (dassana), that allows one to know (ñāṇa).

We don’t have anything like this in Christianity, unshakeable faith or impossibility to go back,

For us Catholics, does that mean if one were to reach nirvana/sotapann, they would be lost forever?

Why haven’t there been any cases where someone reached full “enlightenment” and was then later “snapped out of it”?

(ex: Such as an extremely devout Buddhist monk who reached nirvana, but later realized nirvana was false and became a Catholic monk and turned to the Gospel instead)

 

[TonyBS]

These are “states” in Buddhism where one reaches unshakable faith, meaning it is literally impossible for them to doubt it, in what they understand to be what reality is really like (and it isn’t compatible with Christianity). Such things as there is no ‘I’, there is no beginning or end, there is no God, etc.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sot%C4%81panna

Doubt about the Buddha, his teaching (Dharma), and his community (Sangha) is eradicated because the sotāpanna personally experiences the true nature of reality through insight, and this insight confirms the accuracy of the Buddha’s teaching. Seeing removes doubt, because the sight is a form of vision (dassana), that allows one to know (ñāṇa).

We don’t have anything like this in Christianity, unshakeable faith or impossibility to go back,

For us Catholics, does that mean if one were to reach nirvana/sotapann, they would be lost forever?

Why haven’t there been any cases where someone reached full “enlightenment” and was then later “snapped out of it”?

(ex: Such as an extremely devout Buddhist monk who reached nirvana, but later realized nirvana was false and became a Catholic monk and turned to the Gospel instead)

Basically as they can not know God and have not received a Revelation from God, they play with Vein Imaginings.

The apex of Knowledge a man can obtain is recognition and service to the Manifestation of God in the age he lives. If he achieves this, then higher thoughts are possibly granted.

Without this nothing really is achieved.

Regards Tony

 

[GEddie]

I had understood that nirvana was reached only in death.

ICXC NIKA

 

[Widlast]

These are “states” in Buddhism where one reaches unshakable faith, meaning it is literally impossible for them to doubt it, in what they understand to be what reality is really like (and it isn’t compatible with Christianity). Such things as there is no ‘I’, there is no beginning or end, there is no God, etc.
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You are assuming that what they claim is true or possible.
It would be much more likely that no one has ever achieved the purported states because they do not exist.

 

[Lou2U]

These are “states” in Buddhism where one reaches unshakable faith, meaning it is literally impossible for them to doubt it, in what they understand to be what reality is really like (and it isn’t compatible with Christianity). Such things as there is no ‘I’, there is no beginning or end, there is no God, etc.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sot%C4%81panna

Doubt about the Buddha, his teaching (Dharma), and his community (Sangha) is eradicated because the sotāpanna personally experiences the true nature of reality through insight, and this insight confirms the accuracy of the Buddha’s teaching. Seeing removes doubt, because the sight is a form of vision (dassana), that allows one to know (ñāṇa).

We don’t have anything like this in Christianity, unshakeable faith or impossibility to go back,

For us Catholics, does that mean if one were to reach nirvana/sotapann, they would be lost forever?

Why haven’t there been any cases where someone reached full “enlightenment” and was then later “snapped out of it”?

(ex: Such as an extremely devout Buddhist monk who reached nirvana, but later realized nirvana was false and became a Catholic monk and turned to the Gospel instead)

I think because they have achieved what Buddhism is built around. Once full enlightenment is reached, why would a person “snap out of it”?

I suppose it would be a bit like someone wanting to be Pope for their whole life, becoming Pope and then completely changing their faith.

Lou

 

[JurisPrudens]

These are “states” in Buddhism where one reaches unshakable faith, meaning it is literally impossible for them to doubt it, in what they understand to be what reality is really like (and it isn’t compatible with Christianity). Such things as there is no ‘I’, there is no beginning or end, there is no God, etc.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sot%C4%81panna

Doubt about the Buddha, his teaching (Dharma), and his community (Sangha) is eradicated because the sotāpanna personally experiences the true nature of reality through insight, and this insight confirms the accuracy of the Buddha’s teaching. Seeing removes doubt, because the sight is a form of vision (dassana), that allows one to know (ñāṇa).

We don’t have anything like this in Christianity, unshakeable faith or impossibility to go back,

For us Catholics, does that mean if one were to reach nirvana/sotapann, they would be lost forever?

Why haven’t there been any cases where someone reached full “enlightenment” and was then later “snapped out of it”?

(ex: Such as an extremely devout Buddhist monk who reached nirvana, but later realized nirvana was false and became a Catholic monk and turned to the Gospel instead)

Maybe, it is their illusions and self-esteem that is holding them inside their self-imposed cocoon? Assuming, someone has really ever achieved this.

To see the examples of an unshakable faith, one is to look at all the Christian Martyrs.

Nevertheless, be believe that every person continues to struggle to the very end.

 

[Joelle_M]

Our faith is constantly being rattled by the enemy. We’re under attack on a daily basis. Satan’s ultimate goal is to get us as far away from God as possible. We have more to worry about when we aren’t being tempted and tried because it probably means our enemy feels that he has us where he wants us.

I don’t know much about Buddhism, but if what you describe above about “nirvana” is accurate- maybe they are no longer being tested thus making it harder for them to see the light? God uses satan, He allows him to test us so that we’ll turn to Him for help. It sounds to me that their religion, one of not believing in God at all, doesn’t pose much of a threat to the enemy… he’s led them as far as he’s had to… which is frightening.

Have I flown over the cokoo’s nest with this thought? Having read a few books on possession- it almost makes me wonder if their “true enlightenment” is a full possession of sorts

 

[ProdigalSun]

These are “states” in Buddhism where one reaches unshakable faith, meaning it is literally impossible for them to doubt it, in what they understand to be what reality is really like (and it isn’t compatible with Christianity). Such things as there is no ‘I’, there is no beginning or end, there is no God, etc.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sot%C4%81panna

Doubt about the Buddha, his teaching (Dharma), and his community (Sangha) is eradicated because the sotāpanna personally experiences the true nature of reality through insight, and this insight confirms the accuracy of the Buddha’s teaching. Seeing removes doubt, because the sight is a form of vision (dassana), that allows one to know (ñāṇa).

We don’t have anything like this in Christianity, unshakeable faith or impossibility to go back,

For us Catholics, does that mean if one were to reach nirvana/sotapann, they would be lost forever?

Why haven’t there been any cases where someone reached full “enlightenment” and was then later “snapped out of it”?

(ex: Such as an extremely devout Buddhist monk who reached nirvana, but later realized nirvana was false and became a Catholic monk and turned to the Gospel instead)

First, you would have to suppose that this “state” is real and not some Farcical imagining.

s a Catholic we are able to achieve this state. It is called the “beatific vision” Even the angels were able to choose to leave God before they received the Beatific Vision.

Peace!

 

[adamhovey1988]

These are “states” in Buddhism where one reaches unshakable faith, meaning it is literally impossible for them to doubt it, in what they understand to be what reality is really like (and it isn’t compatible with Christianity). Such things as there is no ‘I’, there is no beginning or end, there is no God, etc.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sot%C4%81panna

Doubt about the Buddha, his teaching (Dharma), and his community (Sangha) is eradicated because the sotāpanna personally experiences the true nature of reality through insight, and this insight confirms the accuracy of the Buddha’s teaching. Seeing removes doubt, because the sight is a form of vision (dassana), that allows one to know (ñāṇa).

We don’t have anything like this in Christianity, unshakeable faith or impossibility to go back,

For us Catholics, does that mean if one were to reach nirvana/sotapann, they would be lost forever?

Why haven’t there been any cases where someone reached full “enlightenment” and was then later “snapped out of it”?

(ex: Such as an extremely devout Buddhist monk who reached nirvana, but later realized nirvana was false and became a Catholic monk and turned to the Gospel instead)

Because as a Buddhist, I never reached Nirvana.

 

[rossum]

I had understood that nirvana was reached only in death

The Buddha attained enlightenment (=nirvana) at age 35; he died age 80. He was alive in the world and in nirvana for 45 years.

That is one of the differences between nirvana and the heavens: you don’t have to die to attain nirvana.

You may be thinking of parinirvana, which is the state of someone who has attained nirvana while alive and then dies.

rossum